Which RG draw scenario would you personally prefer to see ?

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Now that Rafa is out of top 4 we know he is about to be in someone's quarter.

If he end's up in Berdych's quarter that is as good as if he was one of top 4 seeds as Murray, Fed, Novak and him can not meet before semis. Would you prefer this or would you like to see a potential QF vs one of the other 3 from the big 4 ?
 
Djokovic - Nadal QF or Murray- Nadal QF, with Nadal prevailing and meeting Djokovic in the semis.

That would be ideal. The dominant number one needs to play the best players on clay, no?
 
NatF said:
Anything but in Federer's half.
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Or quarter. He got Murray and Nadal at the AO. So, they need to rotate them. Federer has been getting the toughest draw all year, actually it's been that way for a while.

Smacks of a conspiracy, IMO.
 
Djokovic-Nadal QF, Djokovic-Murray SF, then whatever the final is. If he really is THAT good, he should prove that he's worth all that praise.
 
If Raonic plays (not that likely), Rafa can meet Stan in the 4th. Would like to see that match as I quite liked their last one.
I also want to see Djoko-Rafa, but am not completely sure they'll both get to the final, so why not pair them in the quarters (highly unlikely to happen).
I think he'll end up with either Birdman or Fed. Would be fun if Fed could finally beat Rafa at the RG, but I'm not exactly expecting it.


Btw, don't underestimate Rafa's current level. It took extraordinary performances from Murray and Stan to take him down. We don't see extraordinary performances every day and Rafa's level is still good enough to take down the vast majority of non-extraordinary performances.
 
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Chanwan said:
If Raonic is a no show (not unlikely), Rafa can meet Stan in the 4th. Would like to see that match as I quite liked their last one.
I also want to see Djoko-Rafa, but am not completely sure they'll both get to the final, so why not pair them in the quarters (highly unlikely to happen).
I think he'll end up with either Birdman or Fed. Would be fun if Fed could finally beat Rafa at the RG, but I'm not exactly expecting it.
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I think you got that backwards. If Raonic is a no show, Stan gets bumped to number 8. So he can't meet Rafa until the semis (if they are in the same half and make it there of course).
 
torpantennis said:
Nadal will NOT win the whole thing. But there's always the chance of Djokovic collapsing mentally if he plays Nadal. And Nadal more than anybody knows how to do that: Just throw in a couple of easy lobs, and... :lol:
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If Nadal can use his fishing skills during the match, and use the net to his advantage, I can see him hoisting the trophy.
 
Pagoo said:
I think you got that backwards. If Raonic is a no show, Stan gets bumped to number 8. So he can't meet Rafa until the semis (if they are in the same half and make it there of course).
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I did, I meant the complete opposite - i.e. what you wrote. Will edit
 
MichaelNadal said:
If Rafa comes out sleeveless, maybe I'll have some hope :p
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That would be frigging awesome regardless of results!
Dump the grandpa-ish look and go back to the roots. I miss the piratas too.
My husband and I used to nickname Rafa "BB" (short for Bouncing Biceps) but he's really not that bouncy anymore :(
 
For Novak - Berd, Raonic, Ferrer, Cilic. Yes I know it'll never gonna happen.
 
Nadal in Federer's quarter or half. That way we at least get to see them play RG one last time :) Then the winner gets destroyed by Nole in finals.
 
Part of me would love to see a player get a draw from hell and actually go through it. Like RG 82 or 97 but worse. Normally when the draw is loaded one way upsets occur.

R3 - Kyrgios/Bautista Agut/Isner/Fognini
R4 - Wawrinka/Monfils
QF - Nadal
SF - Federer
F - Djokovic

Winner - Murray!
 
Murray in Roger's half - Rafa and Ferrer in Novak's half.

When did the board get back to normal BTW?
 
Ideally he needs a draw which goes something like:

Rd 1 - Rosol
Rd 2 - Kyrgios
Rd 3 - Fognini
Rd 4 - Monfils
QF - Wawrinka
SF - Nishikoric
F - Djokovic

:mrgreen:
 
torpantennis said:
Djokovic-Nadal QF, Djokovic-Murray SF, then whatever the final is. If he really is THAT good, he should prove that he's worth all that praise.
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Funny how you want Nole to have it so much tougher than Fed did back in 09. Oh well, if he does get through such a draw at least you can't say he didn't earn it.
 
cc0509 said:
I doubt he will avoid them.
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Oh sure, he will. When RG comes around, things work out perfectly for Nadal, no matter what his form or seeding is. If there is one thing that hasn't deserted him at RG so far, it is his luck (barring 2009, which is more of an aberration).

So he very well can win in his current form if he is in one half with Berd and Fed and all of Djoko, Murray, Stan, Nishi are in the opposite half. It is quite possible that they will all wear each other out before the final and Nadal just needs to beat one of them who is already softened up.

Perfectly plausible scenario.
 
I actually want to see Nadal v Federer at RG this year. Nadal should still win, but Federer may bother him a bit more. I think Fedal match is long overdue and we may not get many more.
 
The number one question in my mind:

How will it change Nadal's confidence when he can lose the first set, win the 2nd set, then knows that even if he loses the 3rd set he can still win in 5?

With that mindset he might start pulling out 3rd sets, not even having to go 5. Just remember that if he starts converting more BPs, everything changes.

I think the later he faces Novak, if Novak prevails, the better chance Nadal has. I still think this may be one of the most dramatic FOs we have seen in a long time.
 
Gary Duane said:
The number one question in my mind:

How will it change Nadal's confidence when he can lose the first set, win the 2nd set, then knows that even if he loses the 3rd set he can still win in 5?

With that mindset he might start pulling out 3rd sets, not even having to go 5. Just remember that if he starts converting more BPs, everything changes.

I think the later he faces Novak, if Novak prevails, the better chance Nadal has. I still think this may be one of the most dramatic FOs we have seen in a long time.
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Can't see it. Most of the tour isn't that great, Nadal included. I think Novak will waltz to the title in boring fashion.
 
MichaelNadal said:
Can't see it. Most of the tour isn't that great, Nadal included. I think Novak will waltz to the title in boring fashion.
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I agree with you about most of the tour. Man, do I EVER agree with you about that. But with a resurgent Murray, if Nadal gets in form there will be three players to make things tight from the QFs on.

Everyone knows my one regret. No one who is most likely to win slams right now will come to the net except for Roger.
 
Big_Dangerous said:
9 time FO champion isn't that great.

Now I know you've gone right out of your mind.
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We're talking about the next tournament. Nadal is NOT great right now. Boy would I like that to change, but I'm not the one out of my mind if you disagree :)

Gary Duane said:
I agree with you about most of the tour. Man, do I EVER agree with you about that. But with a resurgent Murray, if Nadal gets in form there will be three players to make things tight from the QFs on.

Everyone knows my one regret. No one who is most likely to win slams right now will come to the net except for Roger.
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Murray will never beat Novak again in 5 sets and Nadal looks done, at least for this year's edition. I get you though.
 
Roland Garros Draw Prediction (R32)

If no seed withdraws prior to draw(#6 Raonic, #30 Kyrgios possible):

Top Half
Quarter 1:
Section 1: {#1 Novak Djokovic - #27 Guillermo García-López } {#17 John Isner - #14 Gaël Monfils}
Section 2: {#12 Feliciano López - #23 Philipp Kohlschreiber} {#29 Fabio Fognini - #7 Rafael Nadal}​
Quarter 2
Section 3: {#3 Andy Murray - #26 Ivo Karlović} {#22 Pablo Cuevas - #13 Gilles Simon}
Section 4: {#9 Stan Wawrinka - #19 Tommy Robredo} {#30 Nick Kyrgios - #5 Kei Nishikori}​
------------------
Bottom Half

Quarter 3:
Section 5: {#6 Milos Raonic - #28 Bernard Tomic} {#21 Richard Gasquet - #11 Grigor Dimitrov}
Section 6: {#15 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga - #18 David Goffin} {#32 Viktor Troicki - #4 Tomáš Berdych}​
Quarter 4:
Section 7: {#8 David Ferrer - #31 Adrian Mannarino} {#24 Leonardo Mayer - #10 Marin Čilić}
Section 8: {#16 Kevin Anderson - #20 Roberto Bautista Agut} {#25 Ernests Gulbis - #2 Roger Federer}​
 
sbengte said:
Oh sure, he will. When RG comes around, things work out perfectly for Nadal, no matter what his form or seeding is. If there is one thing that hasn't deserted him at RG so far, it is his luck (barring 2009, which is more of an aberration).

So he very well can win in his current form if he is in one half with Berd and Fed and all of Djoko, Murray, Stan, Nishi are in the opposite half. It is quite possible that they will all wear each other out before the final and Nadal just needs to beat one of them who is already softened up.

Perfectly plausible scenario.
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This year, due to the wacky ranking, it's funny that Rafa could have to play Djoko or Murray in quarter but he couldn't play Nishi or Wawa before semi!

ETA: Yeah easiest draw for Rafa would be Berd in quarter and Fed (or whoever upsets Fed- he would want Ferrer to be the alternative choice) in semi. He would still have to play one of Djoko/Murray in final but he would be the fresher of the 2 for sure.
 
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veroniquem said:
This year, due to the wacky ranking, it's funny that Rafa could have to play Djoko or Murray in quarter but he couldn't play Nishi or Wawa before semi!

ETA: Yeah easiest draw for Rafa would be Berd in quarter and Fed (or whoever upsets Fed- he would want Ferrer to be the alternative choice) in semi. He would still have to play one of Djoko/Murray in final but he would be the fresher of the 2 for sure.
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True. As I have already mentioned before, once Nadal gets to the semi, it doesn't matter who he has to play - Murray,Djoko,Stan,Nishi or whoever is the hot player blazing through his side of the draw. He will decimate anyone.

The only draw that matters is the first 5 rounds. And I suspect Nadal will not meet anyone who can trouble him in the first 5 rounds.
 
veroniquem said:
Fed or Berd would be perfect for Rafa. I hope he will avoid Djoko/Murray.
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If Nadal loses to Murray after he destroyed him last year he is officially Finnish.

You have nothing to worry about in Murray, Madrid plays more like a slow hard court then Roland Garros clay. I would be more worried about Nishikori.
 
rainingaces said:
If Nadal loses to Murray after he destroyed him last year he is officially Finnish.

You have nothing to worry about in Murray, Madrid plays more like a slow hard court then Roland Garros clay. I would be more worried about Nishikori.
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I firmly disagree.
Murray is a better player overall than Nishi (by a landslide), a much better slam player in general. Murray has 2 slam semis to his name at RG, Nishikori has zip (not even a quarter!), Murray has a much better serve (improved it a lot recently), Nishi is easier to break, Murray has better fitness in general, Murray has much more experience, Madrid does NOT play like hard. In 2009, the winner of Madrid also won RG.
Both can be dangerous on the day but I don't see a rationale to make Nishi a bigger threat at RG.
 
Djokovic, Murray, Nishikori, Nadal, Wawrinka, Dimitrov, Simon, Tsonga, Isner, Robredo, Gasquet, Kohlschreiber,

vs Federer, Berdych, Raonic, Ferrer, Cilic, Lopez, Monfils, Anderson, Goffin, Bautista Agut, Cuevas.. fair?
 
G A S said:
given the djokovic hype, I am more interested in a Djokovic vs Nishikori match up.
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You just saw it in Rome. I hope you enjoyed it ;)

ETA: Rome's draw was about as hard as it could possibly get for Djoko (practically the perfect draw to prevent him from defending his title). However he got saved in extremis by Murray withdrawing after 1 match AND he is so good atm that he could have made it even then but I expect more of the same at RG. Poor Novak :(
He's used to it though. Novak at his best can beat any draw.
 
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G A S said:
it would be a rematch, with djokovic extremely focused for his first grand slam, with nishikori in his best, should be quite a rematch.
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Nishikori at his best in RG? Fat chance. He has never even made quarter there.


ETA: well of course any Djoko hater would want Djoko to get Nishi and Murray at RG as that would be the toughest possible draw! (Except Nadal would be even tougher but no Nadal fan would want that in quarter :twisted:)
 
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