Which string has it all - black, soft & spin friendly?

gd!

Rookie
Hi

I am using Signum Pro Hyperion strings for a while now and found this to offer a good combination of touch & feel, power & control while it lacks in spin potential department.
Looking for some other string to offer better spin potential plus touch & feel close to Hyperion.
I already tried these strings, some are offering better spin performance, however I did not felt in love regarding to what has been delivered else... Signum Pro Tornado, MSV Hepta-Twist, Gamma Black Ice, Gamma Zo Verve, Solinco Tour Bite, Volkl Cyclone.

Could one of these strings be worth a try? Alien Black Diamond, Kirschbaum Pro Line II black, Gamma Zo Twist; or other strings not yet taken into consideration?

Thanks, gd!
 

Devilito

Legend
try a slightly stiffer poly like Black Code or RPM. The snap back is more violent feels a lot crisper and responds well to lower tensions which is easier on the arm. Signum Tornado is pretty much the softest string for the most amount of spin. If you didn't like that i don’t know what to tell you. If you weren’t so set on Black only I’d suggest ALU Power Rough which is one of the best strings I’ve ever hit with.
 

gd!

Rookie
Feedback

Thanks for the prompt feedback guys, some more comments on the topic...

Polyfibre Venom: I did not mentioned, however tried this one and was disappointed from its spin potential. Strung it at same tension than SPH 52lbs/23.5kg
Genesis Black Magic: These strings are Made in Germany; I am from Germany and close to my location there is one of the larger tennis string manufacturer in Germany. They are producing strings for Weiss Cannon, Signum Pro and other companies. Genesis has NO distributor in Germany and now counting 1 + 1 it seems mfg site could be the same ;) however if I could get my hands on a set of each diameter 16 & 17 I would definately try these out.
Solinco Barb Wire: Could be a second option, though I prefer round strings over twisted. But if it offers equal touch and feel it could be an alternate string to try out...
Dunlop Black Widow: Strung my second racquet today 16 mains, 17 crosses. To be tested on Sunday.

Looking forward to receive some more opinions, experience, impressions, whatever can be counted as good advice :)

cheers gd!
 
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TripleB

Hall of Fame
Signum Pro Tornado with a cross of either Forten Sweet Synthetic or Gosen OG Sheep Micro 16L.

TripleB
 
MSV Focus HEX 1.10 is rather soft for a poly string IMO. It dies after 3-4 hours, but if you have your own stringing machine, you can replace it rather cost effectively even after it dies, as reels of it sell for 76 bucks.
 

pvaudio

Legend
Thanks for the prompt feedback guys, some more comments on the topic...

Polyfibre Venom: I did not mentioned, however tried this one and was disappointed from its spin potential. Strung it at same tension than SPH 52lbs/23.5kg
Genesis Black Magic: These strings are Made in Germany; I am from Germany and close to my location there is one of the larger tennis string manufacturer in Germany. They are producing strings for Weiss Cannon, Signum Pro and other companies. Genesis has NO distributor in Germany and now counting 1 + 1 it seems mfg site could be the same ;) however if I could get my hands on a set of each diameter 16 & 17 I would definately try these out.
Solinco Barb Wire: Could be a second option, though I prefer round strings over twisted. But if it offers equal touch and feel it could be an alternate string to try out...
Dunlop Black Widow: Strung my second racquet today 16 mains, 17 crosses. To be tested on Sunday.

Looking forward to receive some more opinions, experience, impressions, whatever can be counted as good advice :)

cheers gd!
We know these things. We can also tell you that the "same" strings are nothing alike. Hyperion is supposedly Black Magic, Pro's Pro Blackout is supposedly WC Black5Edge. You'd have to drug me to think that they are the same string having played all of them.
 

Squidward

Rookie
I've been using Obdura Rev and Penta with good results. Spin friendly and easy on the arm. Pretty Good tension maintenance too!
 
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gd!

Rookie
...can also tell you that the "same" strings are nothing alike. Hyperion is supposedly Black Magic...You'd have to drug me to think that they are the same string having played all of them.
So if you are able to compare Hyperion v Black Magic that would be helpful though...
 
I've created a string that plays like gut and poly. Has the feel and power of gut, but grabs the ball like poly.

It lasts about two years, does not lose tension, and plays exactly the same as when you first string it until it breaks a few years later.

It is not affected by temperature, humidity and cost less than a dollar per racket.

The string manufacturers found out about it and are hunting me down.

Pah! The oil companies had put a price on my head for decades now after they found out that I created a perpetual motion machine from junk yard parts. I know how to survive. My Alien father, the one who abducted and impregnated my mother, gave me the cloak of invisibility that once belonged to Harry Potter on my 18th birthday.

Please don't try to email me, the NSA are monitoring by accounts because they think I'm the Wikileaks source. hah!
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
have you tried the rough version of polyfibre black venom? i played it, strung about 0.5kg higher than usual as stabilization tension loss is somewhat higher as compared to other polys and i was really very satisfied.
 
Volkl Cyclone 18. Super arm friendly and durable. Best string for returning ever made (IMHO and I can return). Spinny and accurate + cheap. It does go non-linear on some hits but if you like big angles that's a great thing. Better spin than Black magic but less feel.

if WC silverstring were black I'd suggest that as it rivals BM's feel.
 
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gd!

Rookie
Signum Pro Tornada & Multi in crosses: Don't think it will be my cup of tea...combined BHBR & Quasi Gut and the string movement received from mains and crosses was just horrible. Tried Tornado 17 M & Hyperion 17 X during winter season and it was a step down; overall feel was by far not as good as pure "Hype".
However, it might be an option to string Tornado 16 as a pure string job. Will think about it...
Polyfibre Venom Rough: As said, I tried out the regular Venom; while it felt soft during installation the feel was a little crisper & springy than with Hyperion strings. More comparable to TF X-Code. All in all, I got noticable less spin out of this string and I believe the overall feel will not soften up / change even the spin one could generate using the Rough version might be better.
Volkl Cyclone: I tested the 17 gauge and it felt to plastically to me, overall feel was not to my liking.
TF Black Code: Tried a thinner gauge and overall feel was OK but string lacks some control or I need to try to put some more spin than generating usually to keep length of shots under permanent control.
WC Scorpion: Was my favorite string before I decided to give Hyperion a try. Very good control and better access to spin, however it is a tad too underpowered for my liking. Feel is OK, but not on par with
WC Turbotwist: The mix of feel, spin, accuracy was very nice but during some hot summer period in July the tension loss was so huge - also compared to Scorpion - it last 2 hours for maximum performance, than it was gone...even being self stringer this is too expensive for my liking.

Bottom line:
I am not simply looking for a string which can be called "arm friendly", most of the strings above are for sure. Enjoying the unique feel of Signum Pro Hyperion this is something I would still like to keep, as close as possible.
I feel Genesis Black Magic could be an option for testing but I am still thinking it might be some Signum Pro "USA" rebranding product. Strings are available in UK, price is close to Hyperion and testing would be affordable.
First lets see how it works to combine Hyperion 16 & 17 than I will look further.
I also ordered a test string from Alien; as it is produced by Isospeed Austria who are also making the Beast XP for Prince - which precedessor 361 I liked a lot at little lower tension v Hyperion - it may also fit my bill...

Thanks for all the advice, don't hesitate to share more of your experiences, thanks gd!
 
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