Which stroke is worst for tennis elbow?

acintya

Hall of Fame
when i read all this i am considering to return to table tennis

but then i wonder how important foot technique is and the loose grip. i never had any problems. I guess the best things you can do for yourself is too watch like 100 tennis lessons so you will adapt a proper technique.
 

nvr2old

Professional
Well I've played tennis for over 50 years ad golf for over 40 and never had TE or GE from either. Have had GE thought after drilling in slump stone walls to place bolts using hand drill due to gripping drill tightly and vibration of drill and hard surface. Both are tendonopathies as a result of technique AND equipment and hard to separate the causology IMO. Functionally a OHBH uses the extensor muscles of the forearm more than the FH so if there are flaws in this stoke technique or equipment that exacerbates the force or vibration I'd suspect this stroke is the worst. My wife has TE problems which I believe stems from her technique specifically her tendency to flex and extend her wrist (ie poke at the ball) instead of using wrist and forearm as a unit to swing the arm and racquet.
 

tennishabit

Professional
when i read all this i am considering to return to table tennis

but then i wonder how important foot technique is and the loose grip. i never had any problems. I guess the best things you can do for yourself is too watch like 100 tennis lessons so you will adapt a proper technique.
yep safe bet if return to pingpingpongpong as the balls/bats'r much much lighter n don't worry abt footwork unless u'r competing top pro pingpingpongpong tournaments:))).............

or keep ur current tennis version/schedule trouble free until age/wearing/etc factor in n embrace the trouble which's just matter of time. as the tennis ball=~50g, racket=~280, urs:?)) if u'r trying hard to elbow that, let's say the ball alone w/ tiny bit ps yr 6 science/math weight1 x length1 = w2 x L2; u'll got ~3kg burden on ur elbow joint even if the ball's static, take dat 2 ur bank n a few fold interests if u try to hit the ball hard.......like hsieh does, lolololol, man. remind u she's got 2fh n 2bh to hit hard.....no wonder:))))).................
 

tennishabit

Professional
when i read all this i am considering to return to table tennis

but then i wonder how important foot technique is and the loose grip. i never had any problems. I guess the best things you can do for yourself is too watch like 100 tennis lessons so you will adapt a proper technique.
the best way 2 learn 4 me was watching pros slow motion on tv or ytb n focusing on the strongest muscle groups like legs/waist/shoulder etc. but ignore those only showing hand/wrist/forearm as a lot of ppl got mislead to the disasterland n never b able to come back ie impossible to cleanup/reformat then install the correct system again, sadly to say. I came across so many te/ge-ers n non of them could undone the damage. so it's lethal to get some1 contaminated w/ te/ge virus, but unfortunately a lot of 'tennis lessons' exactly doing dat.

also from my own experience once get the fundamentals right, no way to get contaminated again no matter wat, ie 100% immunized no matter who u play w/, gr8 feeling that u know dat no matter hw many hr a day u free-swing the fh/bh topspin u hand/wrist/arm won't feel a thing. end of day u only feel legs'r heavy......then plenty drink/food n gr8 deep sleep then refreshed for nxt day, lolololol manohman feel so good. nothing better than dat, man:))))...............
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
To me it is one of those framed one handed BHs that you hit as hard as you can. It is a tough shot to control anyway, so I try not to play it. :D
 

acintya

Hall of Fame
To me it is one of those framed one handed BHs that you hit as hard as you can. It is a tough shot to control anyway, so I try not to play it. :D
im learning ohb here and there and yes its the most natural shot but also the most hard on the arm if the ball is high and you are rushed and still want to pull it of.i guess a heavy racquet would help. i have enormous control with my dr 100 l on the backhand,but only when im late i want more weight to it.
 

undecided

Rookie
For GE absolutely FH Volley hurts the most followed by Serve followed by 2HBH drive. Forehand does not hurt at all.
For TE, the FH stroke hurts.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
For GE absolutely FH Volley hurts the most followed by Serve followed by 2HBH drive. Forehand does not hurt at all.
For TE, the FH stroke hurts.
This is how it is for me. I think I ended up with GE from increasing my volley and overhead practice.

I will say that late contact and arming the ball are probably the biggest culprits for elbow issues. My problem is due to shoulder surgery, I tend to overuse my arm and underuse my shoulder and that puts more strain on the elbow. So I'm always at risk.
 

undecided

Rookie
This is how it is for me. I think I ended up with GE from increasing my volley and overhead practice.

I will say that late contact and arming the ball are probably the biggest culprits for elbow issues. My problem is due to shoulder surgery, I tend to overuse my arm and underuse my shoulder and that puts more strain on the elbow. So I'm always at risk.
After a couple of losses due to poor volleying on my part, I increased my volley practice as well and this seems to have flared up my GE which had been in remission for 10 months or so.
 

jxs653

Semi-Pro
The only time I feel jarring at my elbow when the ball missed sweet spot is when I hit backhand groundstroke. So the answer for me is backhand groundstroke. By the way, mine is one handed backhand.
 

acintya

Hall of Fame
it must be OHB with a light racquet - it takes so much energy from you and if your timing is not perfect your arm really takes a big "hit"
 

Arzivu

Rookie
The one handed backhand feels like a very natural shot to me, unlike forehand. Of course, improper backhand technique can cause extreme stress on the arm..
 

acintya

Hall of Fame
The one handed backhand feels like a very natural shot to me, unlike forehand. Of course, improper backhand technique can cause extreme stress on the arm..
it is very natural until you are LATE on the shot and want hit a topspin backhand anyway.
when you are late on the forehand it doesnt put so much force on your hand like when you are not in position and want to hit a backhand. im not talking about slices here..if even you have the perfect technique - if you are late,you are in trouble - there is definitely more stress
 

Arzivu

Rookie
it is very natural until you are LATE on the shot and want hit a topspin backhand anyway.
when you are late on the forehand it doesnt put so much force on your hand like when you are not in position and want to hit a backhand. im not talking about slices here..if even you have the perfect technique - if you are late,you are in trouble - there is definitely more stress
I agree but i believe that tecnique is hugely assisted and shaped by some basic factors. You cannot say that someone has a perfect technique without decent footwork or timing correctly his shots. It is the whole package and I cannot declare a lazy, slow tennis player who misstimes his shots a great technician no matter how beautifully he swings his racket or how many rpms he puts in his balls.
 

tennishabit

Professional
lolololololol manohman.............all in all too much too many those or these, actually only 1 thing to check out, ie 'deathgrip'8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B8-B.........................

play w/ extremely loose grip, 2 c if u can still play in the watava way u'v been playing, w/ only thumb, index n middle fingers. if u couldn't play anymore, it means u'r relying on 'deathgrip' to arm wrestling the ball..............ofc, u'v known dat for a while, as it really really......hurts:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D...............................
 

jxs653

Semi-Pro
The one handed backhand feels like a very natural shot to me, unlike forehand. Of course, improper backhand technique can cause extreme stress on the arm..
I think it's not a matter of technique but the mechanic of the stroke that makes one handed backhand more elbow problem prone. Put it this way, when ball hits frame on backhand side my elbow is jarring; when the same thing happens on forehand side my elbow is completely fine.
 

HouTex

Rookie
On the technique issue, once my TE was full blown, any OHB was a no-go. Whether I hit my shot with perfect form, on the sweet spot, the frame, whatever, it was too painful to do. That's why I had to stop tennis for 20 months until it healed. I agree good form can go a long way in preventing TE, but age, the wrong equipment, and over use can give you TE even if your form is perfect. And who really has perfect form anyway?
 

tennishabit

Professional
lolololol man........why use arms to do the things dat can be done by large muscle groups like legs/waist etcetc:?))) don't worry abt perfect form or not, tennis or watava regarding to everything'd b fine as long as stop torturing ur own arms, man. even better make full use of gravity whenever u can........bcs, it's absolutely free. w/ horizontal portion of the gravity fall even no need to walk at all when doing shopping w/ a shopping trolley ie let urself keep falling forward onto the trolley then it carrys u forward for absolutely free n won't cost 1c, manohman:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D........................
 
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fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Golfer's Elbow - the few cases I've seen among local players in the last few years seemed to spring up when they were hitting a lot of serves outdoors in the colder weather... using racquets strung with full beds of poly. It seems to me that those strings can probably turn drastically more stiff when the temperatures drop compared with syn. gut or muti's.

Tennis Elbow - I got it a couple years ago when I decided to sample a full bed of poly at low-ish tension (low 40's) in my soft and hefty Volkl C10. Three separate areas in my forearm were lit up like a campfire, including the classic TE spot at the "top" of the forearm. That hurt more when I hit my one-handed backhand, but the rest of my forearm hurt when I hit forehands.
 

tennishabit

Professional
Golfer's Elbow - the few cases I've seen among local players in the last few years seemed to spring up when they were hitting a lot of serves outdoors in the colder weather... using racquets strung with full beds of poly. It seems to me that those strings can probably turn drastically more stiff when the temperatures drop compared with syn. gut or muti's.

Tennis Elbow - I got it a couple years ago when I decided to sample a full bed of poly at low-ish tension (low 40's) in my soft and hefty Volkl C10. Three separate areas in my forearm were lit up like a campfire, including the classic TE spot at the "top" of the forearm. That hurt more when I hit my one-handed backhand, but the rest of my forearm hurt when I hit forehands.
lolololol manohman...........all excuses. absolutely got nothing to do w/ watava u'r using man, watava kinda rkt, or a pc of rock or steel bar as long as no 'deathgrip', watava they can do w/ the ball is btwn them n the balls......make it or miss it who cares. if u'v hit more enough u miss less n less for sure:love::love::love::love::love::love:...................

like army commanders, ain't attache too much to the front line soldiers n charging enemy positions w/ them..........wat 4 man:?)) to die together w/ them:?))))...........watava types of those expendable soldiers like tall/short fat/skinny who cares as long as winning the battles. alive or dead who cares...........all those generals came out in 1 pc rallying back home victoriously at end of the war (but still, might have te/ge when playing tennis/golf etcetc whoknowswat)........................lolololololol manohman:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:...............
 
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fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
lolololol manohman...........all excuses. absolutely got nothing to do w/ watava u'r using man, watava kinda rkt, or a pc of rock or steel bar as long as no 'deathgrip', watava they can do w/ the ball is btwn them n the balls......make it or miss it who cares. if u'v hit more enough u miss less n less for sure:love::love::love::love::love::love:...................

like army commanders, ain't attache too much to the front line soldiers n charging enemy positions w/ them..........wat 4 man:?)) to die together w/ them:?))))...........watava types of those expendable soldiers like tall/short fat/skinny who cares as long as winning the battles. alive or dead who cares...........all those generals came out in 1 pc rallying back home victoriously at end of the war (but still, might have te/ge when playing tennis/golf etcetc whoknowswat)........................lolololololol manohman:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:...............
...I'll have what he's having...
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
lolololol manohman...........all excuses. absolutely got nothing to do w/ watava u'r using man, watava kinda rkt, or a pc of rock or steel bar as long as no 'deathgrip', watava they can do w/ the ball is btwn them n the balls......make it or miss it who cares. if u'v hit more enough u miss less n less for sure:love::love::love::love::love::love:...................

like army commanders, ain't attache too much to the front line soldiers n charging enemy positions w/ them..........wat 4 man:?)) to die together w/ them:?))))...........watava types of those expendable soldiers like tall/short fat/skinny who cares as long as winning the battles. alive or dead who cares...........all those generals came out in 1 pc rallying back home victoriously at end of the war (but still, might have te/ge when playing tennis/golf etcetc whoknowswat)........................lolololololol manohman:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:...............
Can a poster be banned for continual incoherence? This kind of linguistic diarrhea should be strongly discouraged.

I mean does anyone get anything from these posts and if not, shouldn't they just be banned outright?
 

Chadalina

Hall of Fame
Fh has given me golfers (inside), 1h bh has given me Te (outside).

Never had elbow issues on serve, but shoulder has hurt a few times.

I have more problems with a slick or worn out grip than squeezing tight. Had it bad one time, was playing with just a tournagrip over the pallet, those two hours added llike a month to the healing time
 

tennishabit

Professional
Can a poster be banned for continual incoherence? This kind of linguistic diarrhea should be strongly discouraged.

I mean does anyone get anything from these posts and if not, shouldn't they just be banned outright?
lololololol manoldman, at least get something like being annoyed:?))) face the facts/reality, enjoy n have fun w/ it though u'r entitled have freedom of being annoyed, man.........lololololol:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D......................
 
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