Which would be the biggest slam win for Nadal?

Which slam win would mean the most for Bull?


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Robert Baratheon

Professional
AO>>Wimbledon>>USO>>>WTF==RG..
okay this last one is controversial but don't quote me on it. I ain't arguing if someone quotes me on this. Here's my 2 line explanation.. I don't consider slems as the only metric. I love how Nole has all the important tournaments under his bag. Would like the same for Fraud and Rafa..
and more than all that would love an AO trophy for Andeh.
 
I'd say AO, then Wimby.
Why is that? 2 Wimbledon titles, 3 Wimbledon titles, does it really matter? Any extra slam is great anyway, but he isn't fighting for any records in Wimbledon. On the other hand winning a fifth USO would mean equaling the open era record at that slam. Also, for some reason haters are especially MAD when Nadal wins USO, I can't even imagine what the reactions would be if he somehow gets a 5th title. :-D :-D :-D :-D
 

Sport

Legend
AO>>Wimbledon>>USO>>>WTF==RG..
okay this last one is controversial but don't quote me on it. I ain't arguing if someone quotes me on this. Here's my 2 line explanation.. I don't consider slems as the only metric. I love how Nole has all the important tournaments under his bag. Would like the same for Fraud and Rafa..
and more than all that would love an AO trophy for Andeh.
Nole has not won the Olympics (yet), which is also an important title. I agree with you that winning the ATP finals would be huge for Nadal.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
I'm torn. I would like him to tie Fed at the USO with 5 titles, on the other hand, the AO owes him one because he's had such bad luck there. He deserves more Wimbledon titles than he's got so another one would fill the gap.
 

Breakpointerer

Hall of Fame
Why is that? 2 Wimbledon titles, 3 Wimbledon titles, does it really matter? Any extra slam is great anyway, but he isn't fighting for any records in Wimbledon. On the other hand winning a fifth USO would mean equaling the open era record at that slam. Also, for some reason haters are especially MAD when Nadal wins USO, I can't even imagine what the reactions would be if he somehow gets a 5th title. :-D :-D :-D :-D
I don't know, I just thought 3 slams on each surface would be a pretty cool thing to have..but a 5th USO would be huge too, so I'm not disagreeing with you.
 
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DSH

Hall of Fame
AO: Double Career Grand Slam. Nobody has won the same Major twice in the Open Era. Nobody. And he will be the third male player tennis in history if he win that title joining the Australians Roy Emerson and Rod Laver.

Wimbledon: A third title there would mean that Spaniard would become the only male tennis player of the open era and of History to win at least 3 Slams on each surface (Hardcourts, clay and grass).
If he succeeds, he would overcome Mats Wilander who also won at least 2 majors on each surface.

US Open: A fifth title equals the record in the Open Era that has triple owners: Jimmy Connors, Pete Sampras and Roger Federer.
Being the fourth player to get it would not be bad at all!
8-B
 
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Goof

Semi-Pro
I voted AO, but now that I think more about it, a Wimbledon win would mean one less chance for Roger to win another Major at the only place he really has a shot at any more.
 
I voted AO, but now that I think more about it, a Wimbledon win would mean one less chance for Roger to win another Major at the only place he really has a shot at any more.
Federer won 2 of the last 3 AO titles, and you say he has no chance there? All it takes is somebody to take Djokovic out and Federer will become the big favorite.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
In my book every slam is equal. Even the 13th RG would be special cause he'd take this record even further out of reach of anyone in the future.
Very interesting perspective and a minority opinion to be sure, but unique.

I'd say Wimbledon for Nadal, since it's the sports pinnacle. Rafa himself has said twice that I know of that if he could win only one more slam, he'd pick Wimbledon. Defeating Novak in an AO final would be pretty epic as well, but nothing tops Wimbledon.
 

weakera

Hall of Fame
Very interesting perspective and a minority opinion to be sure, but unique.

I'd say Wimbledon for Nadal, since it's the sports pinnacle. Rafa himself has said twice that I know of that if he could win only one more slam, he'd pick Wimbledon. Defeating Novak in an AO final would be pretty epic as well, but nothing tops Wimbledon.

This is pure delusion lol
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
He would be delighted with any of the 3. They would all probably mean the world to Nadal himself, but im sure if he wins the next RG, it will be the same feeling.

Not sure the players really think about double career slam etc. They just want to win. Although for Nadal, I think winning off of clay holds significance for him personally. Its easy to see what it means to him winning the USO.
 

beard

Professional
Nole has not won the Olympics (yet), which is also an important title. I agree with you that winning the ATP finals would be huge for Nadal.
Not in tennis... Gold can give player enormous satisfaction and joy, but in terms of tennis achievements its close to be totally irrelevant...

If there's no Rafa's fans (I like Rafa too) to occasionally mention Olympics during forum dick measuring, I wouldn't remember tennis exists on Olympic games.
 
He would be delighted with any of the 3. They would all probably mean the world to Nadal himself, but im sure if he wins the next RG, it will be the same feeling.

Not sure the players really think about double career slam etc. They just want to win. Although for Nadal, I think winning off of clay holds significance for him personally. Its easy to see what it means to him winning the USO.
The thing about AO is his history there. So many heartbreaking losses. It doesn't mean he deserves another title there, you can't "deserve" anything in tennis. But it's sad that every year something bad has to happen at AO.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Why is that? 2 Wimbledon titles, 3 Wimbledon titles, does it really matter? Any extra slam is great anyway, but he isn't fighting for any records in Wimbledon. On the other hand winning a fifth USO would mean equaling the open era record at that slam. Also, for some reason haters are especially MAD when Nadal wins USO, I can't even imagine what the reactions would be if he somehow gets a 5th title. :-D :-D :-D :-D
It feels weird him winning a lot of USO. Easy draws, slowed down surface, piling them up in 30s etc. Doesn’t compare to what the current record holders (OE) did.

A 2nd AO with a win over Djokovic would be number 1 I think. Or a 3rd W beating one of Fed/Nole.
 

TennisFan3

Legend
Nadal will take any slam he can get. And who knows if he will win more.

That being said, the AO is the absolute biggest. Gives him a double career grand slam which Fedavoic have not been able to achieve. It would be a historical feat and would balance out his resume as well.

Unfortunately for Nadal though, AO is the slam he is LEAST LIKELY to win. The surface just doesn't suit him. The bounce is lower and the forehand doesn't penetrate the court the same way as it does in the UsOpen. Every AO, Nadal ends up defending and running since his spin is ineffectual and his shots sit up. So the only way he can win is by chasing balls and cannot dictate play. No wonder he has so many injuries and retirements there.
 

DSH

Hall of Fame
Not in tennis... Gold can give player enormous satisfaction and joy, but in terms of tennis achievements its close to be totally irrelevant...

If there's no Rafa's fans (I like Rafa too) to occasionally mention Olympics during forum dick measuring, I wouldn't remember tennis exists on Olympic games.
Mury fans (there are!), disagree!
:D
 

Sport

Legend
Not in tennis... Gold can give player enormous satisfaction and joy, but in terms of tennis achievements its close to be totally irrelevant...

If there's no Rafa's fans (I like Rafa too) to occasionally mention Olympics during forum dick measuring, I wouldn't remember tennis exists on Olympic games.
From the 1990s onwards it has gradually become an important title in my view and in the view of many top players. Anyhow, we disagree and it's fine. Let us move on.
 
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Well for now, I would say AO20. He holds off the young guys, holds off djoker and fed, and would be able to pass Fed at his tourney in May. It would also be a pretty epic FO in that case. He would also be half way there...
 

DSH

Hall of Fame
Well for now, I would say AO20. He holds off the young guys, holds off djoker and fed, and would be able to pass Fed at his tourney in May. It would also be a pretty epic FO in that case. He would also be half way there...
RG ends in early June.
Either way, this is the top 10 of oldest male tennis players to win Slams in the Open Era:

1. Ken Rosewall AO 1972; 37 years and 2 months and 1 day.
2. Roger Federer AO 2018; 36 years, 5 months and 20 days.
3. Ken Rosewall AO 1972; 36 years, 2 months and 12 days.
4. Roger Federer Wimbledon 2017; 35 years, 11 months and 6 days.
5. Ken Rosewall US Open 1970; 35 years, 10 months and 11 days.
6. Roger Federer AO 2017; 35 years, 5 months and 21 days.
7. Andre Gimeno RG 1972; 34 years, 10 months and 1 day.
8. Ken Rosewall RG 1968; 33 years, 7 months and 7 days.
9. Rafael Nadal US Open 2019; 33 years, 3 months and 5 days.
10. Rafael Nadal RG 2019; 33 years and 6 days.
8-B
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Very interesting perspective and a minority opinion to be sure, but unique.

I'd say Wimbledon for Nadal, since it's the sports pinnacle. Rafa himself has said twice that I know of that if he could win only one more slam, he'd pick Wimbledon. Defeating Novak in an AO final would be pretty epic as well, but nothing tops Wimbledon.
When did Rafa say that?
 
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clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Not in tennis... Gold can give player enormous satisfaction and joy, but in terms of tennis achievements its close to be totally irrelevant...

If there's no Rafa's fans (I like Rafa too) to occasionally mention Olympics during forum dick measuring, I wouldn't remember tennis exists on Olympic games.
I can see why you try to block it out of your mind. One bronze medal in 3 attempts is pretty poor.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
It feels weird him winning a lot of USO. Easy draws, slowed down surface, piling them up in 30s etc. Doesn’t compare to what the current record holders (OE) did.

A 2nd AO with a win over Djokovic would be number 1 I think. Or a 3rd W beating one of Fed/Nole.
You're right. Beating Djokovic twice to win the USO is nothing to write home about.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Unfortunately for Nadal though, AO is the slam he is LEAST LIKELY to win. The surface just doesn't suit him. The bounce is lower and the forehand doesn't penetrate the court the same way as it does in the UsOpen.
In spite of so much handicap for Nadal in Australia, he's beaten Fed there 3 times. He is 3:1 against Fed at the AO.
 

TennisFan3

Legend
In spite of so much handicap for Nadal in Australia, he's beaten Fed there 3 times. He is 3:1 against Fed at the AO.
My point is that AO is Nadal's least favorite surface among the slams. His game just flows much better at the UsOpen. He can push his opponents back at the deco-turf which is more spin friendly and higher bouncing.
Fact that he beat Fed, doesn't mean as much. He never met Fed at the UsOpen. Maybe he would beaten Fed there too, and maybe multiple times.
Nadal has had tons of injuries/retirements at the AO because he has to defend too much there. He also had, what his coaches say, the worst loss of his career : 2014 AO final.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
My point is that AO is Nadal's least favorite surface among the slams. His game just flows much better at the UsOpen. He can push his opponents back at the deco-turf which is more spin friendly and higher bouncing.
You are just second guessing going by what's happened. He's had a lot of bad luck there one year after another.
 

TennisFan3

Legend
You are just second guessing going by what's happened. He's had a lot of bad luck there one year after another.
Are you always going to disagree with me for the sake of disagreeing?
I'm just talking about visual feedback. Do you play tennis?
Even before Nadal won the AO/UsOpen - it was clear that UsOpen favored his game better. The reason people felt he might not win the UsOpen was because he was usually injured by the time he got there in NYC or exhausted from overplaying. As in 2008 and 2009.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Are you always going to disagree with me for the sake of disagreeing?
I'm just talking about visual feedback. Do you play tennis?
Even before Nadal won the AO/UsOpen - it was clear that UsOpen favored his game better. The reason people felt he might not win the UsOpen was because he was usually injured by the time he got there in NYC or exhausted from overplaying. As in 2008 and 2009.
It was the general idea that Rafa would never win the USO and that became even more ingrained after he won Wimbledon in 2008 and the AO in 2009, then hey presto, he won the USO in 2010 and people said it was because the court had been slowed down, his serve had improved etc. etc.

Exhibit A

U.S. Open 2010: 10 Reasons Why Rafael Nadal Will Never Win the U.S. Open
ADAM FROMAL AUGUST 31, 2010

  1. It may seem blasphemous to say that Rafael Nadal, the No. 1 ranked tennis player in the world, will never complete his career Grand Slam.
    Yet the 24-year-old lefty from Spain will never win the U.S. Open, no matter how many times he enters the tournament field.
    As the U.S. Open kicks off this year, tennis fans will have the pleasure of watching Nadal hit winners and win matches during the beginning.
    Enjoy it while it lasts. Here are 10 reasons why Rafa will never win the U.S. Open.
This was the most common reason given:
Reason 7: Playing Style
  1. Rafael Nadal simply doesn't have a playing style suited to winning the U.S. Open.
    He plays aggressively and relies on his ability to chase down balls, his footwork, his consistency, and the forehands he hits with so much topspin.
    Those forehands tend to land significantly short of the baseline and bounce high and long. This negates the advantage a player would normally have when his/her opponent hits short shots.
    Now, there are multiple problems with hitting those high-spin shots at the U.S. Open.
    For starters, the ball at the U.S. Open is slightly different than the ones used at the French Open and doesn't allow Nadal to put quite as much spin on the ball as he would like. The hard courts also cause the ball to bounce more predictably and takes away some of his advantage.
    Although he has improved his serve dramatically, he still relies on consistency and not sheer power. On hard courts, power is much more useful and he would benefit dramatically from the ability to not just consistently get serves in, but also to consistently ace his opponents.
    With the speed of opponents serves in Flushing Meadows, Nadal also tends to return balls much shorter and gets himself into trouble.
    Finally, Nadal plays with a very physical style. Nadal himself says that he sometimes has trouble on hard courts and may need to change his tour schedule to include fewer hard court tournaments.
    The wear and tear from the courts at Flushing Meadows may always cause his level of dominance to drop as the tournament goes on into the later rounds.
Reason 8: Roger Federer

Reason 9: The Big Hitters

Reason 10: Players Yet to Be Named

  1. The tennis landscape is always changing.
    Just as the reins were handed over to Federer and Nadal from Agassi and Sampras, the current stars will eventually have to give way to the next generation of superstars.
    There are always going to be good young players, and while we don't know who they are yet, there will eventually be some.
    It is very plausible that one of those players becomes a dominant force soon and minimizes Nadal's chances of ever hoisting this trophy.
Nadal now has 4 USO titles the most USO titles won by a single male player in the last 10 years!
 
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TennisFan3

Legend
It was the general idea that Rafa would never win the USO and that became even more ingrained after he won Wimbledon in 2008 and the AO in 2009, then hey presto, he won the USO in 2010 and people said it was because the court had been slowed down, his serve had improved etc. etc.
Ignore the drama queens about surface slowing down. It's all drivel which has NOT been verified. If Nadal wins, then somehow the surface always needs to be very slow. Never mind that slow surfaces don't ALWAYS work for Nadal's game - as Nadal himself has stated.

Anyway, empirically speaking, Wimbledon is still the fastest slam. The plexicushion at AO is generally slower than the Deco turf at the UsOpen. But the reason Nadal's game flows better in the UsOpen is because of the size of the court and the bounce and spin off the surface. It's not related to speed per se.
 

victorcruz

Professional
It feels weird him winning a lot of USO. Easy draws, slowed down surface, piling them up in 30s etc. Doesn’t compare to what the current record holders (OE) did.

A 2nd AO with a win over Djokovic would be number 1 I think. Or a 3rd W beating one of Fed/Nole.
This is what makes Rafa a goat. It was his last slam to check off the career grand slam list yet he has won that his 2nd most. Not that winning 4 in 10 years is some sort of ridiculous achievement.
But def ombeleeble
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
Very interesting perspective and a minority opinion to be sure, but unique.

I'd say Wimbledon for Nadal, since it's the sports pinnacle. Rafa himself has said twice that I know of that if he could win only one more slam, he'd pick Wimbledon. Defeating Novak in an AO final would be pretty epic as well, but nothing tops Wimbledon.
Rafa has always said that the French Open is the most important tournament to him.
 
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