Which year of tennis has the stronger level of competition, 2011 or 2024?

[Megafanoftennis100]

We are already 1/3 into the year, and I think that at this point, we could make some fairly accurate comparison between strength of the tennis field this year and 2011. Now, please note that we will be looking at it from the perspective of each year's most dominant player, namely 2011 for Djokovic and 2024 for Sinner, meaning that for 2011, we will be excluding Djokovic and for 2024, Sinner will not be counted.

Top competitors in 2011:
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Murray
Berdych

Top competitors in 2024:
Djokovic
Alcaraz
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Ruud

And I will be giving my opinion (please note, this is just my opinion. I don't intend to troll):

On hard courts, I think they are about even. Djokovic, Alcaraz and Medvedev are superb on hard courts. Carlos has just won Indian Wells in a dominating fashion, Medvedev reached the AO final, and as for Djokovic, well, he is a 14 time HC Slam champion. Nuff said.
In 2011, you had Federer, Nadal and Murray. Djokovic has a better record on HC than Federer. Nadal's level on HC was very high that year, although rather short-lived (at only the Sunshine Doubles did he show his peak HC level, and other than that, he was very underwhelming for the rest of the season), and Murray reached the AO final and won Cincinnati. But other than that, nothing else notable.

On clay, having Nadal really helps the 2011 field to edge out the 2024 field. But without Nadal, then I would have to go with 2024. Tsitsipas's and Ruud's level at MC were comparable to Federer's level in RG 2011 semi-final. Nonetheless, ignoring Nadal here would be massive cherrypicking, hence 2011 takes the cake.

On grass, we don't really know yet... I will come back to this thread in July.

With that being said, I think that 2011 was an incredibly overrated year in terms of level of competition. Particularly Djokofans love to hype up it like it is the strongest year ever, but it really is not. In fact, far from it. 2011 was still a part of the weak era, to be honest.

What do you guys think? 2011 or 2024?

 

[RS]

Tyson Fury knocking Uysk out in round 6.

 

[CHillTennis]

We are already 1/3 into the year, and I think that at this point, we could make some fairly accurate comparison between strength of the tennis field this year and 2011. Now, please note that we will be looking at it from the perspective of each year's most dominant player, namely 2011 for Djokovic and 2024 for Sinner, meaning that for 2011, we will be excluding Djokovic and for 2024, Sinner will not be counted.

Top competitors in 2011:
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Murray
Berdych

Top competitors in 2024:
Djokovic
Alcaraz
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Ruud

And I will be giving my opinion (please note, this is just my opinion. I don't intend to troll):

On hard courts, I think they are about even. Djokovic, Alcaraz and Medvedev are superb on hard courts. Carlos has just won Indian Wells in a dominating fashion, Medvedev reached the AO final, and as for Djokovic, well, he is a 14 time HC Slam champion. Nuff said.
In 2011, you had Federer, Nadal and Murray. Djokovic has a better record on HC than Federer. Nadal's level on HC was very high that year, although rather short-lived (at only the Sunshine Doubles did he show his peak HC level, and other than that, he was very underwhelming for the rest of the season), and Murray reached the AO final and won Cincinnati. But other than that, nothing else notable.

On clay, having Nadal really helps the 2011 field to edge out the 2024 field. But without Nadal, then I would have to go with 2024. Tsitsipas's and Ruud's level at MC were comparable to Federer's level in RG 2011 semi-final. Nonetheless, ignoring Nadal here would be massive cherrypicking, hence 2011 takes the cake.

On grass, we don't really know yet... I will come back to this thread in July.

With that being said, I think that 2011 was an incredibly overrated year in terms of level of competition. Particularly Djokofans love to hype up it like it is the strongest year ever, but it really is not. In fact, far from it. 2011 was still a part of the weak era, to be honest.

What do you guys think? 2011 or 2024?

I would compare 2024 to being like a poor man's 2005. Andre Agassi turned 35 that year, but even despite his older age he still had the occasional strong result, like when he made the finals of the US Open.

Here in 2024 we have Djokovic taking over that role as the still dangerous tour veteran. The only problem is that Djokovic wins a lot more often than Agassi did, back in those days.

In place of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal we have Jannik Sinner and Carlos Alcaraz.

However, they're still very far removed from prime Fedal.

The depth of the field wasn't necessarily great back in 2005. But given how Djokovic has been dominating everyone over the last few years, it's probably worse today than it's ever been.

 

[zakopinjo]

A funny comparison, someone would understand it as very offensive and intentional trolling.

In short, Berdych 2011 is insignificant and in 2024 Berdych vol.2 (Sinner) is the best so far.

 

[Keizer]

A funny comparison, someone would understand it as very offensive and intentional trolling.

In short, Berdych 2011 is insignificant and in 2024 Berdych vol.2 (Sinner) is the best so far.

His movement is miles beyond Berdych’s at this point. You can tell me that Berdych is the better ballstriker but Sinner is a different player now.

 

[Vincent-C]

Tyson Fury knocking Uysk out in round 6.

Nope.

 

[tennis_pro]

Are you kidding?

Djokovic of 2011 would annihilate today's competition even more than he did back then (against a 100x better opposition)
Nadal of 2011 would decimate today's competition.
Federer of 2011 would be very dominant today.
Murray of 2011 - I can easily see him at no 1 or 2 and being the favorite in most tournaments.

2024 is like a Futures tournament compared to 2011.

 

[Fabresque]

2011 for sure is stronger.

 

[malbaker86]

Tyson Fury knocking Uysk out in round 6.

Heck no!!

Usyk on points

 

[InsuranceMan]

Sinner alone makes the 2024 field better

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Are you kidding?

Djokovic of 2011 would annihilate today's competition even more than he did back then (against a 100x better opposition)
Nadal of 2011 would decimate today's competition.
Federer of 2011 would be very dominant today.
Murray of 2011 - I can easily see him at no 1 or 2 and being the favorite in most tournaments.

2024 is like a Futures tournament compared to 2011.

2024 Sinner beats 2011 Djokovic. And in the post-USO period, I would argue that even 2023 Sinner would utterly dominate 2011 Nole. Losing to Del Potro, Tipsarevic, Ferrer and getting bagelled by Nishikori is downright embarrassing, compared to reaching the finals of the ATP Finals, beating an in form Djokovic on the way.

Nadal of 2011 was just a boring weak pusher outside of clay and the sunshine doubles. He was very different in 2011 compared to 2010. His constant reliance on having to defend all the time and his inability to attack a single ball would get him destroyed by Medvedev and Alcaraz off clay, let alone Sinner.

Federer of 2011 couldn't even reach a single final in any of the HC/grass Slams. Medvedev already made the AO final. Alcaraz won Indian Wells and Sinner won Miami + AO, both in very dominating fashion. Federer's very best performance of the year in 2011 was his RG semi final match, but that is comparable to Tsitsipas and Ruud in Monte Carlo this year.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

What a tragedy that the Djokovic fanatic propaganda has had such a profound influence on the minds of TTW users that even those that used to be devoted Fedal fans are starting to believe in the lies and BS told by Nole fanatics. You have been so thoroughly indoctrinated and I seek to help you all realize the truth once again.

 

[Vincent-C]

which truth

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

which truth

The truth that 2011 Djokovic is an incredibly overrated weak era champion.

 

[Vincent-C]

The truth that 2011 Djokovic is an incredibly overrated weak era champion.

Oh.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

2011 Djokovic - gets his butt handed to him nearly twice by a very old Federer and bagelled by Nishikori

TTW reaction: absolutely amazing level of tennis! Perhaps the highest peak level ever reached!

2024 Sinner - destroys prime Djokovic at AO 6-1 6-2, breaking the latter's 33 match win streak.

TTW reaction: very overrated and incompetent compared to the Big 3

 

[InsuranceMan]

2011 Djokovic - gets his butt handed to him nearly twice by a very old Federer and bagelled by Nishikori

TTW reaction: absolutely amazing level of tennis! Perhaps the highest peak level ever reached!

2024 Sinner - destroys peak Djokovic at AO 6-1 6-2, breaking the latter's 33 match win streak.

TTW reaction: very overrated and incompetent compared to the Big 3

FTFY

 

[Kralingen]

Load up PH lil bro, it would be a better use of your time.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

2011 Djokovic loses to Tipsarevic in an event as crucial as the ATP Finals, the 2nd most prestigious tournament in the tennis world.

TTW reaction: he went on a semi tank mode after the USO and he was injured (while Djoko fans ferociously accuse Nadal fans of lying when they make the same excuse)

2024 Sinner actually tanks his match at Indian Wells, a mere Masters event, and even then, he loses to a respectable opponent with 2 Slams.

TTW reaction: I told you he was overrated! Now he's getting exposed!

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Load up PH lil bro, it would be a better use of your time.

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by 'PH'

 

[InsuranceMan]

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by 'PH'

 

[GloW]

We are already 1/3 into the year, and I think that at this point, we could make some fairly accurate comparison between strength of the tennis field this year and 2011. Now, please note that we will be looking at it from the perspective of each year's most dominant player, namely 2011 for Djokovic and 2024 for Sinner, meaning that for 2011, we will be excluding Djokovic and for 2024, Sinner will not be counted.

Top competitors in 2011:
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Murray
Berdych

Top competitors in 2024:
Djokovic
Alcaraz
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Ruud

And I will be giving my opinion (please note, this is just my opinion. I don't intend to troll):

On hard courts, I think they are about even. Djokovic, Alcaraz and Medvedev are superb on hard courts. Carlos has just won Indian Wells in a dominating fashion, Medvedev reached the AO final, and as for Djokovic, well, he is a 14 time HC Slam champion. Nuff said.
In 2011, you had Federer, Nadal and Murray. Djokovic has a better record on HC than Federer. Nadal's level on HC was very high that year, although rather short-lived (at only the Sunshine Doubles did he show his peak HC level, and other than that, he was very underwhelming for the rest of the season), and Murray reached the AO final and won Cincinnati. But other than that, nothing else notable.

On clay, having Nadal really helps the 2011 field to edge out the 2024 field. But without Nadal, then I would have to go with 2024. Tsitsipas's and Ruud's level at MC were comparable to Federer's level in RG 2011 semi-final. Nonetheless, ignoring Nadal here would be massive cherrypicking, hence 2011 takes the cake.

On grass, we don't really know yet... I will come back to this thread in July.

With that being said, I think that 2011 was an incredibly overrated year in terms of level of competition. Particularly Djokofans love to hype up it like it is the strongest year ever, but it really is not. In fact, far from it. 2011 was still a part of the weak era, to be honest.

What do you guys think? 2011 or 2024?

Hpw dare you not include zverev in that list who beat sinner at the US OPEN in 2023

 

[GloW]

We are already 1/3 into the year, and I think that at this point, we could make some fairly accurate comparison between strength of the tennis field this year and 2011. Now, please note that we will be looking at it from the perspective of each year's most dominant player, namely 2011 for Djokovic and 2024 for Sinner, meaning that for 2011, we will be excluding Djokovic and for 2024, Sinner will not be counted.

Top competitors in 2011:
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Murray
Berdych

Top competitors in 2024:
Djokovic
Alcaraz
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Ruud

And I will be giving my opinion (please note, this is just my opinion. I don't intend to troll):

On hard courts, I think they are about even. Djokovic, Alcaraz and Medvedev are superb on hard courts. Carlos has just won Indian Wells in a dominating fashion, Medvedev reached the AO final, and as for Djokovic, well, he is a 14 time HC Slam champion. Nuff said.
In 2011, you had Federer, Nadal and Murray. Djokovic has a better record on HC than Federer. Nadal's level on HC was very high that year, although rather short-lived (at only the Sunshine Doubles did he show his peak HC level, and other than that, he was very underwhelming for the rest of the season), and Murray reached the AO final and won Cincinnati. But other than that, nothing else notable.

On clay, having Nadal really helps the 2011 field to edge out the 2024 field. But without Nadal, then I would have to go with 2024. Tsitsipas's and Ruud's level at MC were comparable to Federer's level in RG 2011 semi-final. Nonetheless, ignoring Nadal here would be massive cherrypicking, hence 2011 takes the cake.

On grass, we don't really know yet... I will come back to this thread in July.

With that being said, I think that 2011 was an incredibly overrated year in terms of level of competition. Particularly Djokofans love to hype up it like it is the strongest year ever, but it really is not. In fact, far from it. 2011 was still a part of the weak era, to be honest.

What do you guys think? 2011 or 2024?

Hpw dare you not include zverev in that list who beat sinner at the US OPEN in 2023

 

[GloW]

oops did not mean to post that twice sorry

 

[MichaelNadal]

Lol

 

[mahatma]

wakes up, reads a ridiculous post at ttw, laughs out loud, and sleeps well again.

 

[inflation_era]

Well, Federer continued to improve until the very end according to Djokovic fans, so obviously 2024 is the pinnacle of tennis. So far.

 

[mahatma]

Well, Federer continued to improve until the very end according to Djokovic fans, so obviously 2024 is the pinnacle of tennis. So far.

But didn't Federer retire in 2022.

 

[tennis_pro]

2024 Sinner beats 2011 Djokovic. And in the post-USO period, I would argue that even 2023 Sinner would utterly dominate 2011 Nole. Losing to Del Potro, Tipsarevic, Ferrer and getting bagelled by Nishikori is downright embarrassing, compared to reaching the finals of the ATP Finals, beating an in form Djokovic on the way.

Nadal of 2011 was just a boring weak pusher outside of clay and the sunshine doubles. He was very different in 2011 compared to 2010. His constant reliance on having to defend all the time and his inability to attack a single ball would get him destroyed by Medvedev and Alcaraz off clay, let alone Sinner.

Federer of 2011 couldn't even reach a single final in any of the HC/grass Slams. Medvedev already made the AO final. Alcaraz won Indian Wells and Sinner won Miami + AO, both in very dominating fashion. Federer's very best performance of the year in 2011 was his RG semi final match, but that is comparable to Tsitsipas and Ruud in Monte Carlo this year.

You're high.

 

[GRASScaraz]

Nostalgia merchants can't see the truth

 

[Razer]

Maybe the OP should be banned from the forum for either trolling or just being dumb.

2011 is the strongest year in tennis since 1995.

 

[ForehandCross]

2024 Sinner beats 2011 Djokovic. And in the post-USO period, I would argue that even 2023 Sinner would utterly dominate 2011 Nole. Losing to Del Potro, Tipsarevic, Ferrer and getting bagelled by Nishikori is downright embarrassing, compared to reaching the finals of the ATP Finals, beating an in form Djokovic on the way.

Nadal of 2011 was just a boring weak pusher outside of clay and the sunshine doubles. He was very different in 2011 compared to 2010. His constant reliance on having to defend all the time and his inability to attack a single ball would get him destroyed by Medvedev and Alcaraz off clay, let alone Sinner.

Federer of 2011 couldn't even reach a single final in any of the HC/grass Slams. Medvedev already made the AO final. Alcaraz won Indian Wells and Sinner won Miami + AO, both in very dominating fashion. Federer's very best performance of the year in 2011 was his RG semi final match, but that is comparable to Tsitsipas and Ruud in Monte Carlo this year.

This is what ignorance looks like

 

[Gary Duane]

Maybe the OP should be banned from the forum for either trolling or just being dumb.

2011 is the strongest year in tennis since 1995.

If stupidity or trolling was worthy of being banned here, half the members would be gone by tomorrow.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Maybe the OP should be banned from the forum for either trolling or just being dumb.

2011 is the strongest year in tennis since 1995.

I do agree that 2011 is definitely stronger than 1995, and 2012 is even stronger than 2011 by a slim margin.
Now, I am not definitively asserting that 2024 is stronger than 2011. I think that the level of competition is pretty even from what I've seen in 2024 so far.
Hence, I am ASKING you TTW users for your opinions. I am genuinely curious.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Maybe the OP should be banned from the forum for either trolling or just being dumb.

2011 is the strongest year in tennis since 1995.

Also, man, Djokovic fans' propaganda has seeped so deeply inside your brains that even while being a non-Novak fan, you still make arguments in favor of him.
I am just here to expose the truth to the tennis fans - the truth in the GOAT debate.
Djokovic in 2011 was overrated, vulturing titles against a declined Nadal and a very old post-prime Federer. And deep down, his fans know it, rival fans know it, and most of all, Novak himself knows this.
This is why he and his fans feel insecure all the time. Not only was his peak very short (9 months of 2011, and 18 months of 2015-16), but he never had to overcome the toughest level of competition to establish his legacy.

 

[No_Kwan_Do]

Peak/Prime 2011 Federer, Nadal and Murray can't beat Djokovic for 5 months but 2024 Sinner apparently can.

Nobody from this generation is beating that version of Djokovic. Not even peak Alcaraz.

 

[Razer]

Also, man, Djokovic fans' propaganda has seeped so deeply inside your brains that even while being a non-Novak fan, you still make arguments in favor of him.
I am just here to expose the truth to the tennis fans - the truth in the GOAT debate.
Djokovic in 2011 was overrated, vulturing titles against a declined Nadal and a very old post-prime Federer. And deep down, his fans know it, rival fans know it, and most of all, Novak himself knows this.
This is why he and his fans feel insecure all the time. Not only was his peak very short (9 months of 2011, and 18 months of 2015-16), but he never had to overcome the toughest level of competition to establish his legacy.

I do agree that 2011 is definitely stronger than 1995, and 2012 is even stronger than 2011 by a slim margin.
Now, I am not definitively asserting that 2024 is stronger than 2011. I think that the level of competition is pretty even from what I've seen in 2024 so far.
Hence, I am ASKING you TTW users for your opinions. I am genuinely curious.

Nadal was as good as he was in 2010, the declined Nadal is a big myth, Nadal was pretty close to his peak. Also Federer was right on Djokovic's tail and still almost in his prime. You won't find an year as good as that when Big 3 were all in their prime together and great. It is 2012 which is a bit overrated year but pretty close to 2011. 2024 is nowhere in comparison, Sinner is nothing, peak Djokovic would beat Sinner in straight sets.

 

[thrust]

We are already 1/3 into the year, and I think that at this point, we could make some fairly accurate comparison between strength of the tennis field this year and 2011. Now, please note that we will be looking at it from the perspective of each year's most dominant player, namely 2011 for Djokovic and 2024 for Sinner, meaning that for 2011, we will be excluding Djokovic and for 2024, Sinner will not be counted.

Top competitors in 2011:
Nadal
Federer
Tsonga
Murray
Berdych

Top competitors in 2024:
Djokovic
Alcaraz
Medvedev
Tsitsipas
Ruud

And I will be giving my opinion (please note, this is just my opinion. I don't intend to troll):

On hard courts, I think they are about even. Djokovic, Alcaraz and Medvedev are superb on hard courts. Carlos has just won Indian Wells in a dominating fashion, Medvedev reached the AO final, and as for Djokovic, well, he is a 14 time HC Slam champion. Nuff said.
In 2011, you had Federer, Nadal and Murray. Djokovic has a better record on HC than Federer. Nadal's level on HC was very high that year, although rather short-lived (at only the Sunshine Doubles did he show his peak HC level, and other than that, he was very underwhelming for the rest of the season), and Murray reached the AO final and won Cincinnati. But other than that, nothing else notable.

On clay, having Nadal really helps the 2011 field to edge out the 2024 field. But without Nadal, then I would have to go with 2024. Tsitsipas's and Ruud's level at MC were comparable to Federer's level in RG 2011 semi-final. Nonetheless, ignoring Nadal here would be massive cherrypicking, hence 2011 takes the cake.

On grass, we don't really know yet... I will come back to this thread in July.

With that being said, I think that 2011 was an incredibly overrated year in terms of level of competition. Particularly Djokofans love to hype up it like it is the strongest year ever, but it really is not. In fact, far from it. 2011 was still a part of the weak era, to be honest.

What do you guys think? 2011 or 2024?

2011- NO CONTEST! Federer, Nadal and Murray wipe out: Sinner, Alcaraz, Tsitsipas and Medvedev or even old Djokovic.

 

[thrust]

Also, man, Djokovic fans' propaganda has seeped so deeply inside your brains that even while being a non-Novak fan, you still make arguments in favor of him.
I am just here to expose the truth to the tennis fans - the truth in the GOAT debate.
Djokovic in 2011 was overrated, vulturing titles against a declined Nadal and a very old post-prime Federer. And deep down, his fans know it, rival fans know it, and most of all, Novak himself knows this.
This is why he and his fans feel insecure all the time. Not only was his peak very short (9 months of 2011, and 18 months of 2015-16), but he never had to overcome the toughest level of competition to establish his legacy.

Your, so called truth, is NOT reality. The truth is you hate Djokovic and disrespect Nadal and Federer who was not very old in 2011.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Nadal was as good as he was in 2010, the declined Nadal is a big myth, Nadal was pretty close to his peak. Also Federer was right on Djokovic's tail and still almost in his prime. You won't find an year as good as that when Big 3 were all in their prime together and great. It is 2012 which is a bit overrated year but pretty close to 2011. 2024 is nowhere in comparison, Sinner is nothing, peak Djokovic would beat Sinner in straight sets.

And that is the smell of an envious, butthurt Djokovic fan making excuses. But unfortunately for you, I would have to deny it, just as you Djoker fans denied Federer fans' excuses of Roger declining post-2011 due to old age.

 

[RS]

2010 and 2013.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Your, so called truth, is NOT reality. The truth is you hate Djokovic and disrespect Nadal and Federer who was not very old in 2011.

I used to be a Djokovic fan, but now, yes, I do dislike him because of how incompetent I realise he is. I strongly hate incompetence and Djokovic is full of it.
You wanna talk about 2011?
He lost to Tipsarevic, Del Potro, Ferrer and got bagelled by Nishikori. He could not win a single title post-USO and couldn't even get past the RR stage at the ATP Finals!! How pathetic! Worst season ever! Even a 30 year old Federer had a more successful end to the 2011 season, winning Paris and the ATP Finals. I do not consider 2011 Djokovic to be so massively above 2011 Federer, if at all.

Sinner is going to win the Calendar Slam this year, the Olympic Gold + the ATP Finals. And then, more and more silly excuses will come from hypocritical Djokofans saying "but but peak Djokovic would straight set Sinner" or "but but but Djokovic is too old now."

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

2010 and 2013.

Don't forget 2008

 

[thrust]

I used to be a Djokovic fan, but now, yes, I do dislike him because of how incompetent I realise he is. I strongly hate incompetence and Djokovic is full of it.
You wanna talk about 2011?
He lost to Tipsarevic, Del Potro, Ferrer and got bagelled by Nishikori. He could not win a single title post-USO and couldn't even get past the RR stage at the ATP Finals!! How pathetic! Worst season ever! Even a 30 year old Federer had a more successful end to the 2011 season, winning Paris and the ATP Finals. I do not consider 2011 Djokovic to be so massively above 2011 Federer, if at all.

Sinner is going to win the Calendar Slam this year, the Olympic Gold + the ATP Finals. And then, more and more silly excuses will come from hypocritical Djokofans saying "but but peak Djokovic would straight set Sinner" or "but but but Djokovic is too old now."

I seriously doubt Sinner is going to win all you say he will, this year. IF he does, then good for him but to say a 37-year-old great player is as good as he was at 25 or so, is nonsense.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

I seriously doubt Sinner is going to win all you say he will, this year. IF he does, then good for him but to say a 37-year-old great player is as good as he was at 25 or so, is nonsense.

Please tell that to Djokovic fans who constantly try to push the narrative that Federer did not decline at all until 2019. Apparently, for them "37 is the new 27"

 

[Razer]

And that is the smell of an envious, butthurt Djokovic fan making excuses. But unfortunately for you, I would have to deny it, just as you Djoker fans denied Federer fans' excuses of Roger declining post-2011 due to old age.

Envious of a boring rat like Sinner?

Naa, we have better things to do than being envious of Berdych 2.0.

 

[Pheasant]

Ok OP. I borrowed your Anthropology book and learned that Neanderthal man existed from 1980-2011. Cro-magnons roamed the earth until 2018. Mankind has continued to evolve substantially each year since 2018.

So to answer your question, we likely get the following;

So even though Lendl was pretty much the father of the modern power baseline game, it turns out that he was 4 foot 6. His peak version would be struggle to beat kids in grade school these days.

Sampras would be decent in Jr. high.

Federer saw a witch doctor, which somehow allowed him to change from Neanderthal to a to-magnon, to a homosapien. So even though 2004-2006 Federer would throttled by current high school players, the dude evolved quickly enough to squeak by in the ATP.

2011 Djoker would get throttled by 2024 Benoit Paire. But he evolved from Cro-magnon to homosapien. Thus, he’s still very relevant and competitive to this day.

Bottom line. Comparing 2011 to 2024 is just like comparing the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 15.

 

[Phenomenal]

Toss up.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Ok OP. I borrowed your Anthropology book and learned that Neanderthal man existed from 1980-2011. Cro-magnons roamed the earth until 2018. Mankind has continued to evolve substantially each year since 2018.

So to answer your question, we likely get the following;

So even though Lendl was pretty much the father of the modern power baseline game, it turns out that he was 4 foot 6. His peak version would be struggle to beat kids in grade school these days.

Sampras would be decent in Jr. high.

Federer saw a witch doctor, which somehow allowed him to change from Neanderthal to a to-magnon, to a homosapien. So even though 2004-2006 Federer would throttled by current high school players, the dude evolved quickly enough to squeak by in the ATP.

2011 Djoker would get throttled by 2024 Benoit Paire. But he evolved from Cro-magnon to homosapien. Thus, he’s still very relevant and competitive to this day.

Bottom line. Comparing 2011 to 2024 is just like comparing the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 15.

I disagree. I have seen some top current high school players playing tennis, and they are absolutely nowhere near as good as 2004-2006 Federer.

 

[Phenomenal]

I don't understand why are you trying to be logical and give response to this poster. It's not his first thread. He is trolling in most of it.

It's not even funny.