Who are you cheering for? Cilic or Nishikori?

Cilic or Nishikori?


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swizzy

Hall of Fame
i don't think cilic can play as well as he did last night.. if he does it will be a pretty one sided affair
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
There was already a thread and a poll for this and Nishikori owned it so hard that it wasn't even funny. Seeing the same results here too. :lol:

Nishikori is very popular here compared to Cilic and actually I think he'd be quite a popular champion in general should he go on to some Major successes. He's just a very likeable guy. Cilic has a bad@ss demeanour though, and is super cool.
 

Pocalypse

Banned
Nishikori. Because then Novak's defeat won't look that bad when the winner becomes the eventual champion. No_Other.Reason.
 

merwy

G.O.A.T.
I honestly can't decide. I like Nishikori more, but I'm leaning towards Cilic because it's just great that a (more or less) journeyman like him suddenly wins a slam. With Nishikori I feel like he will be winning slams in the future anyway. But you could the say the same about Cilic actually, so I really don't care. Will just try to enjoy the match for once without supporting someone.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
merwy, are you being serious??

Cilic a journeyman? He's won 11 titles, much more than Kei and is only a year older! His YE rankings over the last 5 years: 14, 14, 22, 15, 37.

Cilic has reached 5 Grand Slam quarter-finals.

Nishikori has won 5 titles and reached only 2 Slam quarter-finals.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Nishikori all the way.
I hope you've changed your mind and will watch the match. Both of them have had tough roads to this final and have beaten top quality opposition.
 

merwy

G.O.A.T.
merwy, are you being serious??

Cilic a journeyman? He's won 11 titles, much more than Kei and is only a year older! His YE rankings over the last 5 years: 14, 14, 22, 15, 37.

Cilic has reached 5 Grand Slam quarter-finals.

Nishikori has won 5 titles and reached only 2 Slam quarter-finals.

I said "more or less" for a reason, and who really decides when someone is a journeyman or not? Anyway, you do have a point, since Cilic is only a year older than Nishikori (it feels like Cilic should be 27yo, he's been around for so long) and has had a better career than Nishikori.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
My point is you've referred to Cilic as a journeyman in a manner that suggested that you don't think Kei Nishikori is one. Actually, both are champions, winners, and particularly Cilic has already had many significant successes and deep runs at Slams. Obviously Kei has gone further so far in 1000's, but 11 titles is no joke, especially only by the age of 25.. I think it's about as many as Berdych and Tsonga, albeit without a big title as of yet. OK, what constitutes a journeyman is of course subjective but yeah, I just don't see it with these 2 guys...

BTW, they both have the same peak ranking of #9. I wonder what Kei's rank will be should he win the final.. and Cilic's for that matter..
 
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FreeBird

Legend
merwy, are you being serious??

Cilic a journeyman? He's won 11 titles, much more than Kei and is only a year older! His YE rankings over the last 5 years: 14, 14, 22, 15, 37.

Cilic has reached 5 Grand Slam quarter-finals.

Nishikori has won 5 titles and reached only 2 Slam quarter-finals.
He also had a slam SF.
 

Fed881981

Hall of Fame
I'm a little indifferent, but probably Cilic. Wouldn't mind at all if Nishi wins, though. Oh, and I have no plans to watch the entire match.
 
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President

Legend
merwy, are you being serious??

Cilic a journeyman? He's won 11 titles, much more than Kei and is only a year older! His YE rankings over the last 5 years: 14, 14, 22, 15, 37.

Cilic has reached 5 Grand Slam quarter-finals.

Nishikori has won 5 titles and reached only 2 Slam quarter-finals.
Cilic has played more than 200 matches more than Nishikori has. That is 2 or 3 years of a full tennis schedule. Nishikori is "younger" than his actual age in tennis terms because of all the time he has had to take off from the tour, I think.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Cilic has played more than 200 matches more than Nishikori has. That is 2 or 3 years of a full tennis schedule. Nishikori is "younger" than his actual age in tennis terms because of all the time he has had to take off from the tour, I think.
He is, but it doesn't take away from the fact he's achieved substantially less so far in terms of titles won and deep runs at Slams. The point is that Cilic has actually achieved more than many seem to realise and is a championship player (11 titles). I expect Nishikori to have a more successful career overall than Cilic, but see neither as journeymen.
 
He is, but it doesn't take away from the fact he's achieved substantially less so far in terms of titles won and deep runs at Slams. The point is that Cilic has actually achieved more than many seem to realise and is a championship player (11 titles). I expect Nishikori to have a more successful career overall than Cilic, but see neither as journeymen.
Not taking anything from Cilic, but all of his titles are 250 events, the biggest of which is the Queens. As for Nishi, he has 2 titles which are 500 ATP categories, one from clay and the other a hc. He has also reached a Masters 1000 event finals which he should have won against Nadal if not for the injury.

My point IS, overall, their achievements are pretty much even, considering Cilic's started 2 years before KN.
 

gut wax

Hall of Fame
Nishikori over Cilic.

Comparing Title Quantity [C] over Quality [N] is just counting "meh" fish from a Small Pond over those freaks of nature from a Big Pond.

Or a host of other analogies [Important: NOT anal orgies (NTTIAWWT)],
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Both outcomes will be great. Both proved their mettle in getting to the championship. The mind says either. The heart will decide as I watch the match.
 

FreeBird

Legend
I don't recall Serena ever testing positive for any banned substance. Anyone who attempts to pedal conspiracy theories to the contrary is simply delusional.

#PTL

AngieB
Yes, whenever I want to dope, I will take glucose despite having a lot of other better and stonger alternatives. Dumbness of this post can be correlated to the butt-hurt feelings. :twisted:
 

McEnroeisanartist

Hall of Fame
Whoever your favorite player/team is, I think you should always root for the player/team that defeats your favorite.

It would be awful to hvae Federer to lose to Cilic then in turn to lose to Nishkori.
 
Nishikori because he is one of my favorite players. He deserves the title, too, having gone through Raonic, Wawrinka, and Djokovic all in a row. Cilic defeated Berdych, who we all know has been shaky for a while now and the upset was inevitable, and Federer whose form in the US Open has been questionable since he lost that first set to Granollers. Not trying to detract from Cilic's wins - most players would fold by themselves with the name Federer across the net - I just think that Nishikori has also been having a better year of playing were it not for injuries.

Nishikori defeated Federer in Miami earlier this year, and then was immediately hampered by injury. He led Nadal by a set and had the match in his hand at Madrid but once again injuries surfaced. His match against Nadal in the quarters at the AO earlier this year was also very tight with the tiebreak practically having been in his hands. I just don't seem to recall Cilic playing extremely well as to challenge the top guys consistently except for Fed in Toronto and Djokovic at Wimbledon.
 

Chico

Banned
I hope you've changed your mind and will watch the match. Both of them have had tough roads to this final and have beaten top quality opposition.
Nope. Will not watch. Three reasons:

1. I am in Europe traveling, much more interesting stuff to do. I didn't even watch Novak - Nishikori. Just caught some glimpses here and there.
2. Do not want to participate in increasing viewership for this final. US Open organizers might get the wrong idea and try even harder to stop Novak from reaching the final next year. They showed this year they are capable of anything.
3. Not really interested in those two players. As said, pretty sure both will be choking badly in the final and tennis will be low quality.
 

Chico

Banned
Nishikori because he is one of my favorite players. He deserves the title, too, having gone through Raonic, Wawrinka, and Djokovic all in a row. Cilic defeated Berdych, who we all know has been shaky for a while now and the upset was inevitable, and Federer whose form in the US Open has been questionable since he lost that first set to Granollers. Not trying to detract from Cilic's wins - most players would fold by themselves with the name Federer across the net - I just think that Nishikori has also been having a better year of playing were it not for injuries.

Nishikori defeated Federer in Miami earlier this year, and then was immediately hampered by injury. He led Nadal by a set and had the match in his hand at Madrid but once again injuries surfaced. His match against Nadal in the quarters at the AO earlier this year was also very tight with the tiebreak practically having been in his hands. I just don't seem to recall Cilic playing extremely well as to challenge the top guys consistently except for Fed in Toronto and Djokovic at Wimbledon.
Cilic never challenged Djokovic at Wimbledon. If you discount Novak choking and losing focus due to umpire and crowd and his own brain farts for two sets, Novak won his three sets when he regained the focus quite comfortably - 61 62 61. That is not challenge at all.
 

Team10

Hall of Fame
Nishikori of course. Cilic seems like a nice guy and is generally good to watch but I like Kei's game far more, saw his matches against Raonic and Wawrinka live at the Open and man was it incredible to watch. Plus I've always liked Kei. Hoping for Nishikori in 4 or 5!
 
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