Thank you for being so candid and interesting! Yes, if your associations are playing on the tour or being a hitting partner with tour players and that is your way of being humble while communicating that, certainly you are playing a considerably higher level than myself.

I'll geHt around to it someday , maybe, but the gist of it is I think higher level players are less concerned with the minutia of rackets, like you said kind of , just grab a racket, feels good, play with it. They are particular about what they like (usually the racket that got them through juniors to the tour), but can play well with anything if they just played a fun match.

Mortal rec players/adult learners (not 5.5 level like you) are more likely to think a racket will win them matches over another one, or maybe it can because their opponents and their own game is so tedious.

if I make a topic I'll blab more about the particulars.
I enjoyed your comments. I'll submit a clarification. Humbleness doesn't fit me. Bragging doesn't either. Straightforward does. I can be gracious (sometimes). I never celebrate after hitting a winning highlight shot. I merely did what I'm supposed to do. I never play gamesmanship. But I've yelled in anger at my opponent and the chair umpire with a clean, short, deserved, one-sentence admonishment.

And I've sternly admonished students and scolded: "I tell you to quit slapping with your backhand, the forehand the same, and then after a few more balls, you go back to uncontrolled slapping, accomplishing nothing but wildly swinging at the wind. If that's the way you want to hit, then I'm through with you. You can find another instructor who will be pleasant with your slaps. That's not me. It's your choice. On improving, if improving is what you want, you'll experience some of what I and many talented players have been through in the developing. I know the physical and the mental involved in tennis. And the mental controls the physical. I've posed to you questions without a question mark. It's up to you to answer to yourself."

In the instructing, I never ask a player what the player wants to work on, neither before a beginning lesson or before later lessons. I mean to improve a student's overall play. I cut out the bad to allow healing. To be certain, I'm not a band-aid instructor. A single teaching session provides nothing permanent for the student. And the students choose me by reputation - word gets around. So they ought to know what they're in for.

For example, in a first lesson, on a outside court island far away from outside distraction, I hit several balls to a student's forehand. I saw major problems but said nothing. I hit several balls to the backhand. I saw major problems and said nothing. But on the backhand, the student remarked, "That's my weakness. That's what I want to work on." I didn't acknowledge, then tell the pupil to position at the baseline center. I then hit a slow, looping ball to the forehand side requiring the student to take a step and the next ball (not in rapid fire) to the backhand requiring a step or so past the center mark and on went the continuous process, which didn't last very long.

The waist-bending, tentative, lunging student was noticeable fatigued after five alternations with only three returns, sluggish returns, landing near death inside the service line. The other seven attempts fell dead on her side of the court. I'd seen enough and the two of us went to the sideline with the fatigue-struggling student sitting down on a bench and me standing. I reminded, "Tennis requires movement to a hitting positioning. Without proper positioning, a player won't have much success returning a ball. Furthermore, let's imagine a waiting, eager player near or beyond the baseline who takes off in full horizontal flight to catch a wide shot. The conditioned player gets in a perfect hitting position yet still striding, and with his body and racket extended, strikes a line-drive crosscourter or perhaps a linear shot landing safely at the near corner for a winner. The player's running positioning provided a choice.

"What I'm saying, positioning is critical, a tennis fundamental, to play your best. Conditioning is critical, a tennis fundamental, to attain best positioning. So many fundamentals, all critical, more than just watching the ball. However, 'watching the ball' isn't really a fundamental. But moving into position and locking your eyes and mind hard on the coming ball, fundamental. A big difference between 'watching the ball' and 'zeroed in,' wouldn't you say. And The Greatest Athlete on the planet won't excel and last in any sport without mastering the sport's fundamentals, physical and mental."

Before returning to the court, I added, "You've got a lot of matters to work on besides backhand, don't you. Remember I'm the authority and you've got a lot to learn and apply."

The student, a slim 40-year-old woman, laughed and agreed and screamed, "I'm pumped!"

The love of the sport.
 
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Things are getting interesting, pontificate further on recoil weight and if a racket can win a match or fruit loops and tennis lessons.
Would you like a word-usage lesson? Forget the offer. You're getting one.

Nobody says, "Let's pontificate on the internet and have some fun with the serious commentors."

But a couple of guys might say, "Let's express on the internet outrageous arrogant opinions and have some fun with the serious clown commenters - let's mess with them.

I could've used the hip "trolling" but the word's often use has turned it into a worn-out cliche in my mind. Maybe it's my age. And I find "troll" a little too juvenile. Maybe it's my other education.

Here's an Abbot and Costello exchange: Who's on first? A troll. Who's on second? A troll. Who's on third? A troll. What's a troll look like? A troll, stupid. So, what's a troll do? Trolling, stupid. O.K., so what is trolling? What a troll does, stupid.

I think I got it. I've been trolled.
 
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I just measured my wingspan and it's 76" - so if that's the critical measure for recoil weight, 176 is almost right on the money.
I tried to measure my wingspan but a downtown Atlanta skyscraper got in the way.

Damnit, one bent arm is stuck in a window.

It's the one holding the tape measure. That sucks.

I'm trying to pull my arm out of the window. Damnit, I cut myself. That sucks too.
 
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WHO CARES ABOUT RECOIL WEIGHT?,... asks Brando, the master student of finding the best racquet to match our bodies.
I'll tell you who cares 〰️〰️ Anyone who plays tennis on a wet rain soaked clay court in Naples Florida, where the ball
mashes into the racquet with extra heavy force, while using a racquet with TOO LITTLE recoil weight! Any sailor who fell
overboard, and is swinging a twenty pound oar with TOO MUCH recoil weight at an approaching ominously fast fish!
And so it goes with all different activities. Throughout history, people have subconsciously been trying to find the proper
combination of recoil weight and swingweight. Yes, I so well remember a tale, of my ancestor "Nate-the-Neanderthal".
While half-starved, he tried to capture rabbits with his favorite wooden club of 250 RW, combined with 500 SW.
Needless to say, his club moved too slow to hit rabbits, eventhough it seemed to work okay against encroaching elephants!!

And so it now comes down to my final questions to all those in the vast yonder Hamlet of the tennis empire 〰️〰️
Is it possible that the best RW is not cast in village stone?? Is it possible that against different types of opponents,
playing on very different types of surfaces, we should come equipped with a bag of DIFFERENT RW racquets to choose??

Please, Nate's descendants are craving to find the truth!!!"
(By the way, some tennis museum have evidence that Nate changed to a light club, and became famous for rabbit stew!!)
------ So Be It ⚜ ------
 
I looked up Nate the Neanderthal. Nate's a rabbit.

Traitor!

Did ancestor Nate have sex with a human neanderthal that eventually, several hundred or thousand centuries later, produced Youngheart? If so, what does Youngheart look like?

Again if so, did Youngheart inherit a passed down 250 RW, 500 SW wooden racket club?

(One more time) if so, Youngheart my odd friend, does the 250/500 match your body? - probably a tiny part rabbit and mostly human.

I've heard that many strange relationships, like in West Virgina, happen in South Florida., originated on white-sand beaches, on golf courses, and on soaked clay - and inside the home of the world's tastiest rabbit stew, Youngheart's Rabbit Cafe (paying an homage).

I've also heard that frenzy rabbits like sex, which would be a pleasant inheritance.
 
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Uhhh,... please Glenda, I think you've been hopping too much in your carrot garden!! After reading your message,
I took a look on my "modern contraption of sub-human thought processing," (also known as a Samsung tablet,)
and I didn't find a rabbit named Nate. The closest that I found of my caveman ancestor was a terrifying mountain
of a man named Nathan Wilson from Australia, a fighter nicknamed "The Neanderthal." Oddly, after staring at his
picture in complete awe, I suddenly realized that perhaps he has the same massive muscle structure as me, so we
might be related. (You'll never know. My Hollywood agent forbids me to send pictures of myself to anyone!!)

You are clever! Yes I did inherit Nate's powerful club! Mosquitoes are unfortunately getting bigger, so when I see one,
I take out Nate's club, and smash that fool of a creature deep into the living room wall!! (Neighbors are not amused.)

It's possible that Youngheart's Rabbit Café is having overwhelming business, but I'm so concentrated on writing my
speech for accepting the next US Open trophy, that I have been sadly neglecting my cooking duties.
Nate passed along this wisdom 〰️ "Man does not exist on rabbit stew alone." After taking that to heart, I created my
world famous 7-been soup with barley, tiny chunks of ham, custom cut carrots, and a few drops of Worcester sauce.
I must tell you, that's a power packed food!! After indulging in countless bowls, I can only wear stretch pants now.
You should see me. When I wear stiff pants, any movement causes my new thigh muscles to tear through the pants!!
Uhhh,... I think we're supposed to talk about RW, so let me say that I've never recoiled from the idea of lifting a trophy!!
Signing off...... It's 2:20AM here in France, where I cook up a storm during the summer❗
 
Uhhh,... please Glenda, I think you've been hopping too much in your carrot garden!! After reading your message,
I took a look on my "modern contraption of sub-human thought processing," (also known as a Samsung tablet,)
and I didn't find a rabbit named Nate. The closest that I found of my caveman ancestor was a terrifying mountain
of a man named Nathan Wilson from Australia, a fighter nicknamed "The Neanderthal." Oddly, after staring at his
picture in complete awe, I suddenly realized that perhaps he has the same massive muscle structure as me, so we
might be related. (You'll never know. My Hollywood agent forbids me to send pictures of myself to anyone!!)

You are clever! Yes I did inherit Nate's powerful club! Mosquitoes are unfortunately getting bigger, so when I see one,
I take out Nate's club, and smash that fool of a creature deep into the living room wall!! (Neighbors are not amused.)

It's possible that Youngheart's Rabbit Café is having overwhelming business, but I'm so concentrated on writing my
speech for accepting the next US Open trophy, that I have been sadly neglecting my cooking duties.
Nate passed along this wisdom 〰️ "Man does not exist on rabbit stew alone." After taking that to heart, I created my
world famous 7-been soup with barley, tiny chunks of ham, custom cut carrots, and a few drops of Worcester sauce.
I must tell you, that's a power packed food!! After indulging in countless bowls, I can only wear stretch pants now.
You should see me. When I wear stiff pants, any movement causes my new thigh muscles to tear through the pants!!
Uhhh,... I think we're supposed to talk about RW, so let me say that I've never recoiled from the idea of lifting a trophy!!
Signing off...... It's 2:20AM here in France, where I cook up a storm during the summer❗
In your writing, Youngheart, you try too hard to express humor, try too hard to be witty, try too hard to be clever.

I won't go into explanations or lessons of correction on expressing original humor that might bring a smile to the readers.

So instead I'll supply a remark fitting to the forum.

A player having difficulty on the tennis court tells himself or scolds himself to try harder.

But try harder at what?

As a player and an instructor of overhearing tennis students' call to arms - "try harder!" - from repeated failure on shot making, I can tell you that a simple self-order of trying harder won't get a player out of difficulty. Usually the troubled player will succumb into deeper difficulty by the repeated self-order.

Nevertheless, on humor writing I'll add: A punch happens quickly and sometimes unexpected, like from a prize fighter, like from a quality subwoofer, like from a comedian delivering a punch line.

However, apparently you're French, so your understanding of the English language and the readers of the language might not be up to the standard of renowned writers and exacting readers of the English language.
In my own writing I'm thinking about how my every sentence will come across to the readers. Does the sentence speak clearly to the readers' easy understanding. And does the sentence move forward and not meander around with needless fluff or babble.

Yet if you are indeed French, I'd love to talk to you about tennis from a French perspective. Currently, France is presenting so many outstanding athletes of so many sports, certainly including tennis.

One more note. South Florida and France are a long way apart. But you might be just visiting lovely France or have made the country your home. I don't know.

Me, on the other hand, I have lived in NYC, currently living in Atlanta, Georgia - I'm a Dixie chick - and was born and partly raised in - ride'm cowboy - Oklahoma.

How's that for mixing apples, peaches, and a cow paddy.
 
I tried to measure my wingspan but a downtown Atlanta skyscraper got in the way.

Damnit, one bent arm is stuck in a window.

It's the one holding the tape measure. That sucks.

I'm trying to pull my arm out of the window. Damnit, I cut myself. That sucks too.
Damnit, I dropped the tape measure. Still as I relentlessly try to wriggle my bleeding arm out of a broken-glass office window, a man inside yells, "Would you please remove your hand off my crotch."

"Excuse me," I replied, "but I don't feel anything there."

I heard a few women in the office cackle.
 
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The last of the Prestige 93s! A precision instrument not unlike the last of the V8 Interceptors...

Given your locale and frame choice for this experiment, @esm, you're like my personal Mad Max.
(Attempt to bring this thread back on track)

So…. @Brando, since the above post back in April, I have played around quite a few different racquets, and as I progress with my “re-work”, I have noticed I tend to stay within the “recommended” RW for me, that is 164.

After almost 4 months of “testing”, I (think I) have arrived at my optimum RW range - the RW range lets me win a great deal of local UTR rated matches, as well as club tournaments/social sessions. The losses are on me, with my re-work related techniques, obviously I will continue to work on it going forward.

In the last couple of weeks, I have tried to sway away from my current trusty pair, but I circled back eventually. lol

I am now trying my hardest to stay with the same pair and have very minimal changes on the string setup. I think I have also fanalised in the string type for the current pair, but I do change up on the tension range, as required. One thing for sure is that I can’t play with poly, even in hybrid…. lol.

Anyway, without further mumbling, I can inform you that my comfort RW is between mid-164 to low-165. The current main pair/match ready pair are at high-164 range. With a new found love of lead tape (around 5g) at around the 7” area from the butt cap.

Anyway, through it is time for me to report back!
 
I'll post my experience tinkering with RW, let's see if you can bring some light on this topic @Brando

I play with a Vcore 98 Tour with a smidge of lead at 3&9 (3g total). Racquets came a little over spec already so strung specs with overgrip are about (manually measured):
343 g
32.8 cm
342 SW
164 RW (which in theory is ideal for my 5'10-11 height)

Played pretty well with them for a couple of weeks at my usual venue, in central Spain's summer heat, lightish balls and pretty bouncy conditions overall. Then tried a leather grip because I just like the feel and firmness of it. So specs got up to
352 g
32.2 cm
343 SW
169.5 RW

Which I really liked for a couple of weeks playing tournaments on clay at sea level with heavyish Dunlop Fort balls, pretty slow conditions (I'm about 5.0 level Masters 35 player, used to be ranked about Top 400-500 in Spain when I was 20 yo).
But when I've come back to my usual faster conditions, there is no way I could get a ball in with my heavier setup, not even increasing string tension a couple of kg and I've already played like 4 sessions so I should be more than adapted back to the speed and bounce. I just can't properly accelerate this thing on time to get enough spin and margin, and blocked returns just fly. It's surprising because I wasn't feeling like that at all at slower conditions.

Obvious answer is that the racquet is too heavy now with low time to set up, but common tennis knowledge would tell weight in the handle "increases maneuverability" and if you just look at SW, there is no way to explain how can they feel so different.
 
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@Fed_Ex - Regardless of how maneuverable a frame appears to be at whatever given RW, those two components alone aren't enough to tell you the whole picture of how wieldable a frame will be. Static weight and swing weight still matter.

In your case, I think your best bet is to revert to the stock base grip, or one similarly as light. Beyond that, I know it isn't the same, but you may likely be better off looking for either some replacement under-spec VCore Tours, or simply spec'ing up a some regular VC98's with leather and lead, to be able to reach a spec that is more sustainable for you.
 
A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, PLEASE!

I have a strung frame with a stiffness rating of 70 on the RDC, 6pts HL (32cm), a static weight of 325 grams and a SW of 316. How much weight should I add to the buttcap and at 3 and 9 o'clock position to soften this frame to prevent tennis elbow? I love this frame, but it is aggravating my arm. I'm 5'9" and can handle a 330SW decently
 
A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, PLEASE!

I have a strung frame with a stiffness rating of 70 on the RDC, 6pts HL (32cm), a static weight of 325 grams and a SW of 316. How much weight should I add to the buttcap and at 3 and 9 o'clock position to soften this frame to prevent tennis elbow? I love this frame, but it is aggravating my arm. I'm 5'9" and can handle a 330SW decently
More sw will also help to reduce chances of tennis elbow, as there will be more mass against the ball to win the colission. I would add 6 grams at 10 and 2 first, to get to around 330sw, and later on you could go even higher, for both better comfort and performance. No counter balancing needed as of yet.
 
从我现在的例子来看,这个理论确实有它的合理性。我曾经有两台 G360+radical mp。将两块穿线后,

(1):
329g,
4pt
329sw

(2):
333g,
4pt
333sw

它们有相同的mgr/i,但花了很长时间,无法使用333sw。以前我无法理解。但看了这篇文章后,我发现我的臂长比我身高的标准臂长(5.7)略短。更接近的是我的实际臂长rw(153rw-154rw)
329sw(154.96)确实比333sw(156.8rw)使用起来更自然。有趣的理论
 
I have two ISO 305's customized for my optimal RW of 174 (specs in the signature). Unfortunately, I broke my racquets and temporarily play with an off-the-shelf ISO 305. This wonderful effortless pivoting magic on the forehand is gone. I feel I have to muscle my racquet head through the contact with less output to show for it. @Brando method works, it's pretty evident for me by now. You have to experience magic to start believing in magic.
 
Theoretically, @devoker, if you have two racquets of equal SW and RW, the one that's (5g) lighter with a lower (20.54) MgR/I should be easier to swing, not harder. So what's with the fact that you experience the opposite? The answer may be in what you mean by, "much harder to swing."

What does harder-to-swing mean to you? In general it means clunkier: slower and less maneuverable. Is that what you're experiencing? If so, how exactly does the easier racquet feel easier? Is the difference across-the-board or on specific strokes? And are the weights you're trying here close to what you're used to playing, or are they significantly heavier or lighter? I'm fascinated to hear.

Whatever your answers, I suggest that you follow the direction you experience versus the one you "should." It's been said that my RW Table is too specific. I get that objection. My answer is in the OP; the table's a starting point, not an end point. Yes, it's designed to give one a very specific starting point. But don't we want that when we're exploring, if only as a point of reference to return to, a place on a map? I do. And, as you're discovering, even the same recoil weight can feel noticeably different when you're changing up 2 of the Big-3 specs. (And I applaud that, in this way, you're using the table as it was intended to be used.)

Given that so many combinations can reach any one RW or RW range, it's actually useful to have a road on which to explore new territory. If the RW road is telling you to go with more mass that's weighted more toward the handle, then I say go that direction. But do be aware that sometimes the "harder" swinging racquet may turn out to produce better results. So give yourself time to get used to a setup before abandoning or adopting it. When I first switched to a 333g, 32cm, 331sw setup from 325g, 32.4cm, 333sw, the extra 8g felt harder to swing. It still does. But I discovered that I play more dynamically with it because it forces me to.

Re. added handle weight from sweat soaking into an OG, yes! I've measured much the same change for myself, and yet, have not heard it discussed before. It means that over a 2 hour match on a hot humid day, one's RW can increase by 2 RW-points. That's a noticeable difference that could indeed affect your play.
A bit confused as to why Brando considers the lower MgR/I racquet easier to swing. Based on the general definition of clunkiness = harder to swing, wouldn't devokers higher MgR/I racquet be easier since higher MgR/I = Less polarized? Or does the 5 extra grams in static weight counteract the polarization effect that much?
 
A bit confused as to why Brando considers the lower MgR/I racquet easier to swing. Based on the general definition of clunkiness = harder to swing, wouldn't devokers higher MgR/I racquet be easier since higher MgR/I = Less polarized? Or does the 5 extra grams in static weight counteract the polarization effect that much?
With a lower mass the racket does swing faster, at least the handle part is more easily translated. But because the rotation happens at the same rate in these two cases, the racket with lower mass and thus lower mgri FEELS slower, the feeling of hoop lagging behind more. Some people prefer that feeling, some like the hoop to be more "in line" with the handle, aka high mgri.

Personal side note, adding weight under the trapdoor enhances the rotation feeling of the swing, not necessarily slowing the hoop down, but changing the swing path to a more vertical one, thus changing the timing. Its the least effective place to put weight, slowing down the translation while getting almost nothing in terms of swingweight/hittingweight. I found out that i like a higher balance point 33-33.5cm, while my mgri is currently high, its more of a happenstance. I have pretty much a rafa spec racket that i will try out someday. (340g, 33.5cm, 360sw, 20.2mgri)
 
With a lower mass the racket does swing faster, at least the handle part is more easily translated. But because the rotation happens at the same rate in these two cases, the racket with lower mass and thus lower mgri FEELS slower, the feeling of hoop lagging behind more. Some people prefer that feeling, some like the hoop to be more "in line" with the handle, aka high mgri.

Personal side note, adding weight under the trapdoor enhances the rotation feeling of the swing, not necessarily slowing the hoop down, but changing the swing path to a more vertical one, thus changing the timing. Its the least effective place to put weight, slowing down the translation while getting almost nothing in terms of swingweight/hittingweight. I found out that i like a higher balance point 33-33.5cm, while my mgri is currently high, its more of a happenstance. I have pretty much a rafa spec racket that i will try out someday. (340g, 33.5cm, 360sw, 20.2mgri)
Thanks for the great explanation! Is there a reason to use a higher static weight and MGRI racquet? From your explanation, a lower-weight racquet with a despite MGRI swings faster. Since it's also more polarized, it should swing more efficiently. Aside from the feel, are there any other reasons to increase MGRI at the cost of static weight?
 
But because the rotation happens at the same rate in these two cases, the racket with lower mass and thus lower mgri FEELS slower, the feeling of hoop lagging behind more. Some people prefer that feeling, some like the hoop to be more "in line" with the handle, aka high mgri.
How are you determining the rate of rotation? Do you just mean that the swingweight is the same?
 
Thanks for the great explanation! Is there a reason to use a higher static weight and MGRI racquet? From your explanation, a lower-weight racquet with a despite MGRI swings faster. Since it's also more polarized, it should swing more efficiently. Aside from the feel, are there any other reasons to increase MGRI at the cost of static weight?
The reason why you change mgri is to change the timing of your rackets allingment with the ball at the contact point. Sometimes translating the racket faster doesnt mean better.
For example: on the serve, if you use a lower mass, lower mgri racket, you might bring your arm, and with it the racket handle to the contact point while the hoop is still lagging behind. In that case, the angle at which you contact the ball will be too steep, which will probably result in missing long.
Djokovics personal rackets have lead at 7 inch mark, thats done to increase mgri, up to the point where he is comfortable swinging it at his tempo.
 
I've been playing ~156 RW because I like a bit higher twistweight on my Ezone 98's but it can be a bit uncomfortable on my arm at times. So my only option is to remove lead on the sides but then I'd be lowering the twistweight out of my preferred range.

Looking at trying the Pro Staff 97 V14 since that comes with a high twistweight and recoil weight in stock form. My static weight limit is about 340g also.

Ideally would like 340g static, 163-165 RW, 325-330 SW, 7-8 pts HL. I'm 5'7 with long arms and play around 5.0 level so I'm playing against pretty heavy balls.
 
I've been playing ~156 RW because I like a bit higher twistweight on my Ezone 98's but it can be a bit uncomfortable on my arm at times. So my only option is to remove lead on the sides but then I'd be lowering the twistweight out of my preferred range.

Looking at trying the Pro Staff 97 V14 since that comes with a high twistweight and recoil weight in stock form. My static weight limit is about 340g also.

Ideally would like 340g static, 163-165 RW, 325-330 SW, 7-8 pts HL. I'm 5'7 with long arms and play around 5.0 level so I'm playing against pretty heavy balls.
Sounds good and also an upgrade on feel but might be a bit of an adjustment on the bh. Try it!!!
 
Ideally would like 340g static, 163-165 RW, 325-330 SW, 7-8 pts HL. I'm 5'7 with long arms and play around 5.0 level so I'm playing against pretty heavy balls.
By jumping back and forth between an MGR/i calculator tool (from TennCom or Impacting Tennis) and the TWU reverse customization tool, you should be able to roughly approximate where and how much weight to add, on any given frame.
 
By jumping back and forth between an MGR/i calculator tool (from TennCom or Impacting Tennis) and the TWU reverse customization tool, you should be able to roughly approximate where and how much weight to add, on any given frame.
You are correct, I just figured out that for what I'm looking for (High TW, high RW) is to put longer strips at 12 o clock instead of 3 & 9. Thanks!
 
The reason why you change mgri is to change the timing of your rackets allingment with the ball at the contact point. Sometimes translating the racket faster doesnt mean better.
For example: on the serve, if you use a lower mass, lower mgri racket, you might bring your arm, and with it the racket handle to the contact point while the hoop is still lagging behind. In that case, the angle at which you contact the ball will be too steep, which will probably result in missing long.
Djokovics personal rackets have lead at 7 inch mark, thats done to increase mgri, up to the point where he is comfortable swinging it at his tempo.
Is there a particular serve style that better suits lower mgris? Using a Head Speed Mp Auxetic 2.0 with around a 20.2 mgri and 33cm balance, I love it on groundstrokes but I don't feel too comfortable with it on serves.
 
Is there a particular serve style that better suits lower mgris? Using a Head Speed Mp Auxetic 2.0 with around a 20.2 mgri and 33cm balance, I love it on groundstrokes but I don't feel too comfortable with it on serves.
You have both elite players and elite servers who played with 20.1 - 20.3 mgri, Soderling, Sinner, Roddick, Raonic, Djokovic, Zverev. I dont think there is a common style among these. There is also Taylor Dent (20.1 mgri) who IMO has a Sampras (21 mgri) like serve motion. Practical advice would be to not add weight to the handle, and to focus on serving practice.
 
160 RW, 21 MGR/I has been working really well for me and every time I try a new spec I venture back to this...

I've been trying a few extended rackets since I'm 5'7 but I just find them to play too sluggish on fast hard courts (I'm guessing the high recoil and low mgr/i contribute to this) While you can hit some breathtaking shots at times, the consistency is just not there as with my preferred set-up.

If I could train everyday for several hours I could adjust my timing to the low mgr/i, high recoil set-up but I just don't play enough to really adjust to a frame like that.

@Trip and I were discussing on another thread that higher mgr/i might actually benefit one handers more than two handers (I'm a one hander)
 
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160 RW, 21 MGR/I has been working really well for me and every time I try a new spec I venture back to this...

I've been trying a few extended rackets since I'm 5'7 but I just find them to play too sluggish on fast hard courts (I'm guessing the high recoil and low mgr/i contribute to this) While you can hit some breathtaking shots at times, the consistency is just not there as with my preferred set-up.

If I could train everyday for several hours I could adjust my timing to the low mgr/i, high recoil set-up but I just don't play enough to really adjust to a frame like that.

@Trip and I were discussing on another thread that higher mgr/i might actually benefit one handers more than two handers (I'm a one hander)
Interesting. I find that my one hander is just as solid with any racquet. Seems like I can just hit it. Iirc mgr/i was like 19 or something.

Forehand is not exactly like that.
 
Interesting. I find that my one hander is just as solid with any racquet. Seems like I can just hit it. Iirc mgr/i was like 19 or something.

Forehand is not exactly like that.
Sorry my post wasn't clear. I wasn't trying to say a high MGR/I is good for the one handed backhand specifically as a stand alone shot, but more so the full package. I find all-court tennis easier to execute with a higher MGR/I versus a lower one. Last minute adjustments and improvisational shots you would find moreso with a one hander/all court game versus a two hander/baseliner type of game.
 
I find that my one hander is just as solid with any racquet.
I share this observation - my OHBH is ok with any racquet. Wiht OHBH, it's only single pivot (the shoulder) and thus the longer lever, so the racquet does not matter as much, as the entire arm+racquet are the hitting structure. With modern forehand, it's double pivot (wrist and shoulder), double stretch and release (pecs and internal/external shoulder rotation), more violent last-moment acceleration.
 
I share this observation - my OHBH is ok with any racquet. Wiht OHBH, it's only single pivot (the shoulder) and thus the longer lever, so the racquet does not matter as much, as the entire arm+racquet are the hitting structure. With modern forehand, it's double pivot (wrist and shoulder), double stretch and release (pecs and internal/external shoulder rotation), more violent last-moment acceleration.
Interesting observation. Makes sense. Though I tend to be one of those elbow benders and def that is a hinge point. Think fed bends the elbow to contact too.
 
Interesting observation. Makes sense. Though I tend to be one of those elbow benders and def that is a hinge point. Think fed bends the elbow to contact too.
Fed's arm is straight on contact - regardless, even a bent elbow is not a pivot.
 
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