Who did Djokovic do more damage to- Federer or Nadal

Well, the djoker is right up there with laver, Emerson and Sampras.
Sampras also wasn't in the best physical condition because his red blood cell count was low. Novak didn't know he was hampered by gluten. He said he believed he was only good for 3 slams because he struggled on tour, as the players and media called him a fake and disgraceful person.
Fed hated the misery of losing, so Rafa and Murray made these last 7 years among the top 3 best eras too.

10 years ago, it was a relief when no one could see brad Gilbert, Mary carillo, Pam shriver, John and pat McEnroe speak.
As soon as fed grieved over roddick's retirement, the serious tennis fans finally appreciated djoker, Rafa, Murray and the revived ferrer and Stan.
 
Nadal is so lucky he peaked late, otherwise his slam count would be so much lower. Also a shame other guys only started not fearing Nadal or falling for his games in the last couple of years. He got lucky. Good for him on capitalising on weak competition I guess. FO has such a poor field and he still should have lost countless times but resorted to gamesmanship (2011, 2012 demanding the rain delay) and had luck (2013 net touch, 2014 Djoker getting sick).

We should be looking at Stanimal talked amongst Fed and Djoko, not the Bull. Shame.

Your hatred of Nadal is pretty lame . Everything was luck or capitalising on a weak field lol Seriously man, stop making youself look bitter.
 
People would say Rafa but Rafa beat Novak on his best surface and won the FO a history making 9 times.

It is obvious nowadays that it is Federer cause Novak beat him on his best surface on the grass at Wimbledeon and kept him from making history winning it the 8th time. Novak has never won a French Open title over Rafa on his best surface in the finals. Novak has beaten Federer twice on his best surface and that is Novak's weakest surface which is more discouraging.
Another reason is that Federer has been hailed the greatest of all time and he has had trouble beating the most elite and superior athletes like Novak and Rafa.

It gives Federer critics more ammunition to say that Federer was fortunate that he played during the weak era of men's tennis and that he lacks the physicality and killer instinct to hang with the elite.

Whereas Rafa and Novak are both excpetional athletes, and they are more evenly matched in terms of their legacy building.

Reputation, there has been reports from Novak's camp attacking Federer's character as a man because Federer never acknowledged Novak as being a possible rival and being one of the greates.
Plus, two people on Novak's camp have attacked Federer
 
Dude, your trolling is not clever of funny. Peak Nadal got schooled 7 times in a row by Novak and you are sore about it. Funny you were banned from menstennisforum for trolling and now you are here.

As for the AO taking 6 hours, you conveniently don't mention Nadal had an extra days rest and Novak had an epic semi with Andy, and still should have won in 4. Also Novak just destroyed Nadal at his best slam. So keep hating. You can't even discuss tennis seriously you just troll. Last time I write to you as you clearly are just baiting with everything you right. Soon you will get banned from here.

It sounds like you are upset because I'm stating the facts.
Conveniently didn't mention? What, I'm supposed to mention EXCUSES now for Djokovic? You seriously want me to mention the length of each semi-final before I mention a final.....? Insane.
I've never even heard of you or seen you post before, so it won't make any difference whether its the last time you write or the first time you write.....
 
I wonder how many slams Djokovic would have right now if Rafa never existed.
See, Rafa has beaten Djokovic at 9 slams, including 5 between 2010 and 2014-
2010 USO FInal
2012 RG Final
2013 RG Semi
2013 USO Final
2014 RG Final
So we can definitely say Djokovic would have won all those slams between 2010 and 2014, so Djokovic would be on AT LEAST 14 slams right now if Rafa never existed.
 
Now I see what a couple posters meant about crazy Nadal fans. I NEVER implied Djokovic has had the edge overall in the match up with Nadal in slams. Obviously that is not the case (although largely due to the massive clay skew, they are tied in slams otherwise, and Djokovic marginally ahead in slam finals, but I digress). Obviously Nadal has cost Djokovic a ton, as he has Federer, and he has had the edge in both those match ups overall, especialy in slams, and especialy Federer (although that he hasnt been able to build a GOAT career despite that impressive advantage speaks to his relative lack of consistency).

However the general belief of many is that Djokovic has kept Nadal from eclipsing Federer. I am just examining and finding that is far from the case, as Federer has lost as many slams and other achievements by Djokovic as Nadal, if not even more. So that myth is mostly an urban legend without any substance. And in fact if you are complaining the damage Djokovic has done Nadal is exagerrated, it mostly goes along with that, so Nadal fanatics who want to go along with that line of thinking shouldnt be moaning and b1tching anyway.
 
I'd say the "damage" he's done is about equal if there's such a thing. Top of my head, Djokovic hurted Nadal a lot more at the MS-1000 level than he did at the slam level. Beside Wimbledon 2011, Australian Open 2012, US Open 2011, he never really prevented Nadal from winning slams, this year was the 1st time he beat Nadal at the French Open. If we go to the MS-1000 level, he's beaten Nadal in many finals on clay and hard. If I look at Federer on the other hand, he's costed him more in slams than Nadal. The infamous USO 2010-2011, French Open 2012, Wimbledon 2014-2015, Australian Open 2008, 2011. Anyway, Djokovic is part of the game, so who cares. The only thing I resent him for is he prevented us from having at least 1 USO final between Fedal, which has yet to happen.
 
Like Novak main task as a tennis player is to alow you fedalfans potential USO F, but he dared to do such sacrilage:rolleyes:
 
Djokovic's prime years have been hopeless, losing to Rafa in 4 of their last 5 slam meetings (2012-2015)....and Rafa had won their last 4 slam meetings prior to 2015 Roland Garros, and the most lopsided was at 2013 US Open (6-1 in 4th set).
At the slams their h2h is Rafa 9-4.
Rafa leads 6-1 at Roland Garros.
Rafa leads 2-1 at US Open.
Tied 1-1 at Wimbledon.
Djokovic leads 1-0 at AO (and it took 6 hours!).
You need to stop quoting H2H. Nadal is playing so badly he loses before he ever reaches Nole. If Nole had played Nadal in the AO or Wimbledon he would have already tied the h2h.
 
Look how Nole has his arm on Rafa's shoulders in the picture in the top right corner. They really were friends, weren't they, before Nole started dominating? Rafa probably (as Nole's father said he did) pulled away from their friendship because of the changing dynamic. Pretty petty of him.

what? You know that picture was from 2012 Roland Garros right? After Djokovic got #1 and beat Nadal for the entirety of 2011? And how can you take a statement from Djokovic's DAD for granted? I'm not going to 100% put myself on the Rafa is friends with Djokovic or rafa isn't friends with Djokovic side but I wouldn't trust the father who calls in his son the GOAT and been told by Federer to shutup.
 
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