Who do you think has a bigger chance to beat Djokovic in the potential final, Fed or Nad?

Who has a bigger chance to take down Djoker in the final?


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kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Nadal can compete. We seen what happened to Fed in Cinci when people thought he had a chance. He simply cant touch Djokovic anywhere now, and id worry about a beatdown for Fed in the final.
Nadal, I feel, will put up a better challenge.
 

DjokoLand

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Nadal can compete. We seen what happened to Fed in Cinci when people thought he had a chance. He simply cant touch Djokovic anywhere now, and id worry about a beatdown for Fed in the final.
Nadal, I feel, will put up a better challenge.
I don’t think it be a beat down in score wise as Feds serve would make the score line close but it would be routine
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
They can’t compete with Novak physically. If one of them gets to the final, they better not engage in long rallies.
There is a very good chance Bautista Agut might take Novak to 5 sets, possibly even beat him.

Even if Novak survives, he won't cone out unscathed.
 
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Nadal can compete. We seen what happened to Fed in Cinci when people thought he had a chance. He simply cant touch Djokovic anywhere now, and id worry about a beatdown for Fed in the final.
Nadal, I feel, will put up a better challenge.
Federer gave Djokovic a dogfight after that Cincinnati match in Paris Bercy, and was a bit unlucky not to have won that match. On his day Federer can compete very well with Djokovic.

I don't think Djokovic is putting a beatdown on either of them to be honest.
 

kevaninho

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Federer gave Djokovic a dogfight after that Cincinnati match in Paris Bercy, and was a bit unlucky not to have won that match. On his day Federer can compete very well with Djokovic.

I don't think Djokovic is putting a beatdown on either of them to be honest.
Well I think people get confused with Novaks form on grass and HC.
He is no doubt the best HC player in the world, but IMO hes not unbeatable on grass.
 
Nadal can compete. We seen what happened to Fed in Cinci when people thought he had a chance. He simply cant touch Djokovic anywhere now, and id worry about a beatdown for Fed in the final.
Nadal, I feel, will put up a better challenge.
Federer in Cincinnati played something like the worst tennis of his career. He should have never reached the final and no reasonable person could think he has a chance. On the other hand in Paris he played much better and pushed Djokovic to a close match. Of course Federer doesn't have a chance to beat Djokovic in a slam now, but he is still nowhere near as bad as he was in Cincinnati last year.
 
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Well I think people get confused with Novaks form on grass and HC.
He is no doubt the best HC player in the world, but IMO hes not unbeatable on grass.
Hence why I am saying I doubt he puts a beat down on either of them.
 
Federer gave Djokovic a dogfight after that Cincinnati match in Paris Bercy, and was a bit unlucky not to have won that match. On his day Federer can compete very well with Djokovic.

I don't think Djokovic is putting a beatdown on either of them to be honest.
Only in BO3 though.
 
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Only in BO3 though.
Federer hasn't been straight setted by Djokovic since RG 2012. I am not saying he is going to win, I am saying I doubt it will be a beatdown, Federer normally does have a couple of competitive sets in there.
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Federer in Cincinnati played something like the worst tennis of his career. He should have never reached the final and no reasonable person could think he has a chance. On the other hand in Paris he played much better and pushed Djokovic to a close match. Of course Federer doesn't have a chance to beat Djokovic in a slam now, but he is still nowhere near as bad as he was in Cincinnati last year.
Yes but I think people thought Fed was favourite with his Cinci record. By Paris Djokovic had won 2 slams in a row...
 
Yes but I think people thought Fed was favourite with his Cinci record. By Paris Djokovic had won 2 slams in a row...
That would be just as saying that Nadal was the favorite in RG 2015 because of his record, which is absurd.
After seeing Cincinnati semifinal Federer-Goffin I knew Federer is not going to have any chances in the final against Djokovic.
 
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Yes, sorry.
Not invincible is the best summation, but he is the favorite to win the title. The conditions look slow to me that suits his game a lot, it means he is able to get to more balls and prolong rallies. He is not at his peak, but that is not a surprise to me, none of these three are, they are all way past it, but he looks the likely winner in my eyes.
 
Not invincible is the best summation, but he is the favorite to win the title. The conditions look slow to me that suits his game a lot, it means he is able to get to more balls and prolong rallies. He is not at his peak, but that is not a surprise to me, none of these three are, they are all way past it, but he looks the likely winner in my eyes.
None of them are at their peak, this is true. However, I noticed an interesting fact which nobody mentioned so far. For the second slam in a row they all reach the semifinals. The last time it happened before RG 2018 was in...RG 2012. Now that's some huge gap! For such a long time always one of them lost earlier. And now suddenly they are back to reaching the final stages together. Does it mean the tour really reached its lowest point?
 
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None of them are at their peak, this is true. However, I noticed an interesting fact which nobody mentioned so far. For the second slam in a row they all reach the semifinals. The last time it happened before RG 2018 was in...RG 2012. Now that's some huge gap! For such a long time always one of them lost earlier. And now suddenly they are back to reaching the final stages together. Does it mean the tour really reached its lowest point?
Do you even need to ask that question?
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
Federer hasn't been straight setted by Djokovic since RG 2012. I am not saying he is going to win, I am saying I doubt it will be a beatdown, Federer normally does have a couple of competitive sets in there.
history tells me it will most likely be the first two sets that remain competitive, either with fed winning the first or second and then its down hill from there (well as a fed fan)
 
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Well, everybody knows how bad the young generation is. And nobody can say it is because the big 3 are so great. Young players are not even reaching them most of the time. But I think we have a real "proof" of this now.
Well when guys like Tsitsipas, Zverev, Thiem, Dimitrov, Shapovalov among others all fall at the first hurdle, you have to seriously wonder what is going on. Those are guys who should be in the later stages.
 

icedevil0289

G.O.A.T.
not really sure how to feel that so many people have rafa, I mean I would pick rafa too, but that the person with the least amount of wimbledons poses a bigger problem that the grass goat or well second grass goat or co grass with sampras, idek what says about fed.
 
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history tells me it will most likely be the first two sets that remain competitive, either with fed winning the first or second and then its down hill from there (well as a fed fan)
IF that matches, I would tend to agree with your assessment.
 
not really sure how to feel that so many people have rafa, I mean I would pick rafa too, but that the person with the least amount of wimbledons poses a bigger problem that the grass goat or well second grass goat or co grass with sampras, idek what says about fed.
You know, Federer is 38 which is too old to beat Djokovic. If it was 2007 Federer nobody would have a doubt about him not only having better chances than Nadal but actually being THE favorite to win the title.
 

AlexanderTheGreat08

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Well, everybody knows how bad the young generation is. And nobody can say it is because the big 3 are so great. Young players are not even reaching them most of the time. But I think we have a real "proof" of this now.
Very true , Young players can't even reach the Big 3 nowadays and if they reach them , They need to beat 2 or the 3 in a row to win
 
Well when guys like Tsitsipas, Zverev, Thiem, Dimitrov, Shapovalov among others all fall at the first hurdle, you have to seriously wonder what is going on. Those are guys who should be in the later stages.
To be honest when I saw Shapovalov for the first time I thought he might be a reason to keep watching tennis when Nadal retires. Oh, I was horribly wrong about his potential.
 

NBP

Hall of Fame
The guy who has lost his last 12 matches to Fed and Djokovic off clay:-D. Seriously, last year's SF has really distorted visions. Cilic in '14 took Djokovic to 5 sets then got shredded in straights a year later. Same with Fed, but it ended in 4. After Australia I'm never betting on Nadal to even touch Djokovic when it's not in MC, Madrid, Rome or the French. Paris was a medium, low bouncing court and Fed had his chances there, so we'll see. But this nonsense that Fed has no chance but Nadal who can barely win sets off clay against Djokovic is 50/50 is laughable.
 
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