Who do you think has had more classic hit songs - Michael Jackson or Madonna?

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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Who would you say puts on the best stage shows in pop? I've seen some mega concerts from a bunch of stars. Jean Michel Jarre's concerts are sheer madness. I've seen craziness from Madonna and Christina Aguilera.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Who would you say puts on the best stage shows in pop? I've seen some mega concerts from a bunch of stars. Jean Michel Jarre's concerts are sheer madness. I've seen craziness from Madonna and Christina Aguilera.
Though I'm biased because I'm a fan, I really do think Madonna does. She has the top 2 solo tours of all time, and they happen to be the last 2 tours. She really popularized the modern form of pop touring (costume changes, interlude videos, dancers and themes) with the Blonde Ambition tour and still does it better than anyone else. her sets are insane, she really does have the best dancers, and she never performs the same version of her songs twice. It's always new and refreshing. Her interludes are even great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjH48M9eihI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFrUB47Te0w

Perfecto.
 

comeback

Hall of Fame
Nothing Elvis did was original. He stole what black artists were doing and was pushed to the high heavens of the mainstream while the artists he got it from couldn't get the same exposure due to the time. He had some good songs, a pleasant voice and was a good showman. I think he was better in movies tbh.
Elvis Presley- for all intent purposes was black. He grew up in public housing section of Memphis called Lauderdale Courts. He hung around Beale street diggin the music of the Blues. He dressed flashy- he did not fit in with the classmates of his segregated white high school at Humes High. He wanted to sing and feel the music like his blues heroes, and Gospel groups. Elvis sang the music he loved and felt. It was a racist SOCIETY that labeled the music "black" music. Music has no color Was Presley any more of a racist because he was singing in a black style than Chuck Berry was singing in a white country style? Of course not. Both men mixed the genres that were slowly coming together. Elvis brought the black rhythm into the homes of white America and put it right in their face. Because his skin happened to be white, he was the one who had to do it at that time in American history. Thank God Elvis didn't whitewash the music like Pat Boone did. He shocked America. He scared America - they had to now accept the fact that black and white teenagers were merging with music- and he was certainly a catalyst for the Civil Rights movement that followed
Your'e implying a social responsibility to what is clearly undocumented and unmeasurable behavior, and that is not necessarily valid. Elvis hung out with black entertainers, hired black staff, and listened to black music, all before the Civil Rights movement, and most sources indicate he was greatly respected by blacks in the 50's and beyond. Elvis hired a female group of back-up singers to appear on his 68 TV Special against the advice of the network and most likely his manager. I think they were called "The Blossoms".
When he began touring he hired the Sweet Inspirations (a black female group). While touring, several times he was told the Sweet Inspirations would have to stay at a different hotel because they were black, Elvis said he would stay in the same hotel as them or he would not do the show. He was the most colored blind person you could ever meet. Elvis being called a thief is laughable.Elvis, Eric Clapton, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin...all accused of cultural theft from black musicians. This is the biggest crock ever.
White kids bought albums, went to shows...spent a small fortune exploring the wonderful sounds. A whole generation of white rock and roll kids fell in love with black music.

And here is just a few of the qoutes from black entertainers about Elvis:
"Elvis was an integrator. Elvis was a blessing. They wouldn’t let Black music through. He opened the door for Black music." – Little Richard.

"On a scale of one to ten, I would rate Elvis eleven."
– Sammy Davis Jnr.

"I wasn’t just a fan, I was his brother. Last time I saw Elvis alive was at Graceland. We sang ‘Old Blind Barnabus’ together, a gospel song. I love him and hope to see him in heaven. There’ll never be another like that soul brother."
– James Brown.

"Describe Elvis Presley? He was the greatest who ever was, is, or ever will be."
- Chuck Berry.

By the way; Elvis didn´t only get inspiration from black peoples music, he also got inspiration from country, opera and latino music, and of course a lot of the other white singers as well. Actually, some of Elvis´best selling music had it´s base in these other kinds of music.

The bottom line is that these "thieves" put money in the pockets of hard up black musicians and enabled many of the old blues guys and jazz players to have a decent living and retirement.

The love of music crosses all barriers and knows no boundaries
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Elvis Presley- for all intent purposes was black. He grew up in public housing section of Memphis called Lauderdale Courts. He hung around Beale street diggin the music of the Blues. He dressed flashy- he did not fit in with the classmates of his segregated white high school at Humes High. He wanted to sing and feel the music like his blues heroes, and Gospel groups. Elvis sang the music he loved and felt. It was a racist SOCIETY that labeled the music "black" music. Music has no color Was Presley any more of a racist because he was singing in a black style than Chuck Berry was singing in a white country style? Of course not. Both men mixed the genres that were slowly coming together. Elvis brought the black rhythm into the homes of white America and put it right in their face. Because his skin happened to be white, he was the one who had to do it at that time in American history. Thank God Elvis didn't whitewash the music like Pat Boone did. He shocked America. He scared America - they had to now accept the fact that black and white teenagers were merging with music- and he was certainly a catalyst for the Civil Rights movement that followed
Your'e implying a social responsibility to what is clearly undocumented and unmeasurable behavior, and that is not necessarily valid. Elvis hung out with black entertainers, hired black staff, and listened to black music, all before the Civil Rights movement, and most sources indicate he was greatly respected by blacks in the 50's and beyond. Elvis hired a female group of back-up singers to appear on his 68 TV Special against the advice of the network and most likely his manager. I think they were called "The Blossoms".
When he began touring he hired the Sweet Inspirations (a black female group). While touring, several times he was told the Sweet Inspirations would have to stay at a different hotel because they were black, Elvis said he would stay in the same hotel as them or he would not do the show. He was the most colored blind person you could ever meet. Elvis being called a thief is laughable.Elvis, Eric Clapton, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin...all accused of cultural theft from black musicians. This is the biggest crock ever.
White kids bought albums, went to shows...spent a small fortune exploring the wonderful sounds. A whole generation of white rock and roll kids fell in love with black music.

And here is just a few of the qoutes from black entertainers about Elvis:
"Elvis was an integrator. Elvis was a blessing. They wouldn’t let Black music through. He opened the door for Black music." – Little Richard.

"On a scale of one to ten, I would rate Elvis eleven."
– Sammy Davis Jnr.

"I wasn’t just a fan, I was his brother. Last time I saw Elvis alive was at Graceland. We sang ‘Old Blind Barnabus’ together, a gospel song. I love him and hope to see him in heaven. There’ll never be another like that soul brother."
– James Brown.

"Describe Elvis Presley? He was the greatest who ever was, is, or ever will be."
- Chuck Berry.

By the way; Elvis didn´t only get inspiration from black peoples music, he also got inspiration from country, opera and latino music, and of course a lot of the other white singers as well. Actually, some of Elvis´best selling music had it´s base in these other kinds of music.

The bottom line is that these "thieves" put money in the pockets of hard up black musicians and enabled many of the old blues guys and jazz players to have a decent living and retirement.

The love of music crosses all barriers and knows no boundaries
This is all very sweet, he has some great performances to be honest, but again, he ain't no Michael Jackson.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
seems like some Brits are trying to claim Madonna as one of their own, thus offering up a futile defense...

bravo to Bobby Jr! a poster i usually don't agree with on most issues.
 

The-Champ

Legend
This video cracks me up every time. Here's Madonna showing her amazing vocal skills:

https://youtu.be/bAEc-cLroT0?t=6m37s

The woman has never heard of the word "pitch". I've never heard her sing in tune for a whole song, any song.


MJ is not the greatest vocalist ever, but at least he sings in tune most of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kql0ld02SS4&spfreload=10



Cyndi Lauper in the 80's was 100 times the artist Madonna was, is! Comparing madonna to Jackson is an insult.
 
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MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
This video cracks me up every time. Here's Madonna showing her amazing vocal skills:

https://youtu.be/bAEc-cLroT0?t=6m37s

The woman has never heard of the word "pitch". I've never heard her sing in tune for a whole song, any song.


MJ is not the greatest vocalist ever, but at least he sings in tune most of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kql0ld02SS4&spfreload=10



Cyndi Lauper in the 80's was 100 times the artist Madonna was, is! Comparing madonna to Jackson is an insult.
Oh yeah, let's pick some Madonna vocals from the end of a strenuous song past her peak, and then MJ singing a ballad on his best tour :)
 

Man of steel

Hall of Fame
how is this honestly a thread....MJ is one of the GOATs with Beatles and Elvis.....
Madonna is tier 2 at most. And there is a hige gap between Tier 1 and Tier 2
If your gonna compare MJ with madonna then you might as well compare her with the other 2 GOATS
 

Midaso240

Hall of Fame
how is this honestly a thread....MJ is one of the GOATs with Beatles and Elvis.....
Madonna is tier 2 at most. And there is a hige gap between Tier 1 and Tier 2
If your gonna compare MJ with madonna then you might as well compare her with the other 2 GOATS
MJ isn't in the top tier,nor is Madonna.
 
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70sHollywood

Guest
When you think of a Dark Horse GOAT of classic hit songs, however, I present to you:



Classic HITS!
Yes! One of the most underrated artists ever. My favourite song of theirs wasn't even a hit - "Open All Night".
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
They are all superior songwriters and have a much greater body of work,each of them having a double digit number of great albums,whereas MJ just has 2...
MJ has more than 2 great albums. He was just too much of a bizarro by the time the 3rd came out. The argument about the greater body of work goes back to the OP though. I honesthly think Madonna has more songs I enjoy. She just has SO MANY good ones. Michael does too, but he didn't put enough out so he has a lower ceiling. I can't argue with you there.
 

Man of steel

Hall of Fame
MJ has more than 2 great albums. He was just too much of a bizarro by the time the 3rd came out. The argument about the greater body of work goes back to the OP though. I honesthly think Madonna has more songs I enjoy. She just has SO MANY good ones. Michael does too, but he didn't put enough out so he has a lower ceiling. I can't argue with you there.
I can honestly name you less than 5 of madonna's songs off the top of my head...
I could name 20-40 off MJ's of the top of my head. Not to mention MJ's songs are played more often today than madonna's. Samples of his songs are used more today by other musicians, songwriters choreographers, dance groups, DJ's and has a bigger influence on modern day pop than madonna does.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
I can honestly name you less than 5 of madonna's songs off the top of my head...
I could name 20-40 off MJ's of the top of my head. Not to mention MJ's songs are played more often today than madonna's. Samples of his songs are used more today by other musicians, songwriters choreographers, dance groups, DJ's and has a bigger influence on modern day pop than madonna does.
Lol, you must have led a very sheltered life if you can only name 5 Madonna songs!
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I can honestly name you less than 5 of madonna's songs off the top of my head...
I could name 20-40 off MJ's of the top of my head. Not to mention MJ's songs are played more often today than madonna's. Samples of his songs are used more today by other musicians, songwriters choreographers, dance groups, DJ's and has a bigger influence on modern day pop than madonna does.
I hear a lot more 80s Madonna on the radio than 80s MJ tbh.

Lol, you must have led a very sheltered life if you can only name 5 Madonna songs!
I was surprised too. With Michael you have to do more digging than with Madonna if you aren't a fan of either.
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
I hear a lot more 80s Madonna on the radio than 80s MJ tbh.
That means nothing - you hear more Taylor Swift and also drivel like Coldplay more than either too. Radio plays what caters to the broadest audience - the most average of averageness unless they're a niche station.
 
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Michael Jackson by far! Who the hell listens to Madonna?
 

maleyoyo

Professional
Madonna has hits? That’s news to me
Always thought her music is for young teenage girls and boring housewives
Ever seen a dude dancing around singing... like a virgin blah blah blah?
 
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