Yes, this thing of the second withdrawal from the Olympics combined with some forfeits in the Davis preliminaries is one of the few aspects that in Italy has created division around the image of Sinner. In particular, a media uproar arose here in Italy about the refusal to participate in the Davis preliminaries last year in Bologna. Former tennis players such as Panatta, Pietrangeli and Barazzutti were very harsh towards him, some even proposed disqualification for those who had decided of their own free will not to respond to a summons. The Gazzetta dello Sport which here is by far the most followed sports newspaper, through one of its attachments (SportWeek magazine) dedicated a front page to Sinner essentially entitled the traitor of the homeland. Having said this, let's not joke, in Italy on the tennis side there is only Sinner. The comparison with Musetti in terms of popular consensus doesn't even begin. Sinner is truly an untouchable deity here. Someone can argue about his residence in Monte Carlo, about his origins as a German native speaker in a territory that was once under Austrian control, but they are really a small minority, believe me. In Bologna in Davis when he appeared on the last day to support his teammates there was a collective delirium among the fans. Cobolli was massacred in the media for that sketch with Alcaraz in the Laver Cup. A few weeks ago Sinner was elected as ambassador of the next Winter Olympics in Milan-Cortina, what are we talking about?
In Italy there is a lot of racism especially among the older generations with a very old culture that ignores globalization. Think that Marcell Jacobs is not considered Italian by many despite his blood being half (maternal) Italian, as well as having grown up and developed in our country, just because of the color of his skin. And like him I could give many other examples (Iapichino, Egonu, Balotelli, Howe, etc.).
most people think that muzza had a better 2016 than nole who had 2 vs 1 slams and 3-2 h2h (2-0 at slams), but muzza was YE#1 by a very little margin
Trump wont be inaugurated. He is clearly now too old and while America seems an insane asylum nowadays, after the last 4 years of disasters there due to a literally out of his mind lame duck president ( i have respect for Biden's political career but age gets us all), surely when Trump wins the election to right the wrong of the 2020 election there will be people encouraging him to hand over the reins. Personally i think that Haley will be next President, America seems determined for a female President, its only because Harris is utterly useless that Trump is going to win. Trump was great btw, always liked him, but sadly now he is just like Biden was 4 years ago.
Thats because they literally had a play off match for no.1 in last match of the season. It was a straight shootout.
Which part? Im not having a go at Trump at all, i admire him a lot and think he will win. But i just cannot see him doing 4 years as President at his age.
Just to elaborate, Biden has never really been President. All he has literally done for 4 years is put his signature on documents handed to him. Hilary Clinton has been in charge really, which is largely why America has collapsed to the extent it has.
By war you mean world war 3? Well thats why we were all put in lockdown for 3 years which i knew at the time as being a person who goes to bed late i saw military vehicles go down my street at 3am years ago doing sort of test routes and other night owls i know in the North saw and heard fighter jets doing various test manoeuvres in the early lockdown period so pretty obvious whats coming, so enjoy life for now.
Yes i agree they are hated..but they have enormous power as funded by Soros.
Nikki Haley is my guess
George Soros runs the US, UK, Canada, Australia and France. The public are an irrelevance in those countries. Not even worth voting.
That would not be the case had he been properly suspended while doping investigation continued.
Lmao this is complete horse crud.
3-0 H2H
That’s not even possible if Trump wins but stand down or something else Vance would become president.
I would take Alcaraz’s bc he won on the natural surfaces and 3-0’d Sinner aka borebot #2
Well yea that is another can of worms, lol.
it does not change the fact that nole had 2 slamas to 1 and better h2h inclusive 2-0 in slam finals. nole was better in the first 6 months and got injured so muzza was better in the last 6 months of the season when WTF finals happened. i, myself, hink that muzza was better due to YE#1 that i value more than a slam. and whoever of sinner and raz get YE#1 this season he will be undisputedly better player. especially because they won 2 slams each and it will not be big difference in big titles there no2 won many more than no1.
Does the fact that overall Wimbledon and Roland Garros can be defined as more prestigious than the other 2 for reasons of charm and tradition have any relevance to the underlying issue? I mean do players try harder in Paris and London than in Melbourne or New York? Or is it demonstrable that the overall level is higher? All things that don't add up for me. If they examine in depth the 2024 of the two contenders at slam level, both have won two but it is the overall performance that has been different, which reflects a bit of the trend of the last 12 months. Sinner in the two slams that he hasn't won has reached a semifinal and hasn't done worse than the qf, both times he was eliminated he lost in the fifth set in matches in which he closed with more points than the opponent who beat him. Instead Alcaraz in Melbourne went out in the qf against Zverev in a match that at a certain point seemed on the verge of being able to overturn after he was literally slapped in the first two and a half sets. While in New York he abandoned the tournament in the second round after losing 3-0 and in a frankly embarrassing way against VdZ. The real stain of the Italian in this 2024 is being 3-0 down in h2h, the only aspect truly favorable to the Spaniard in the question circumscribed to 2024, but since we are talking about a 3-0 in three matches all rather tight, since the world is the world the h2h factor cannot impact more than a significant gap in the race in which at the moment the two are separated by almost 3000 points. As for who has had the better season (which however has yet to end) we cannot help but reward those who in the comparison have had a consistency at high levels far superior. Sinner is omnipresent, Alcaraz turns on and off. Anyone would sign to have the consistency of Sinner rather than the ups and downs of Alcaraz, even if his peaks are truly remarkable.
Omnipresent? Every big title he has is on hard court. Alcaraz is omnipresent. Slam on grass. Slam on clay. Masters on hard. 500 on hard against Sinner in the final. And that’s just this year. Also has a slam on hard court previously. Get out of here with this Sinner is omnipresent when he’s never even made a clay Masters final let alone win one and only just got his first grass title this year while Alcaraz who’s 2 years younger already has 2 Wimbledons LMAO.
Sinner would actually have won the Halle 500 on grass. In this 2024 he has never exited before the quarter-finals in any tournament. Out of 3 tournaments played, Clay reached two semi-finals in Monte Carlo and Paris, both lost in balanced matches against those who went on to win those respective tournaments, while in Madrid after reaching the quarterfinals he was forced to abandon the tournament due to the hip problem when the situation on the scoreboard was definitely going in his favor (FAA, Lehecka and Rublev I don't think they held an insurmountable obstacle for him). On hard courts he won 5 tournaments out of the 8 played. If we now also want to discuss the greater consistency Sinner had throughout 2024 then everything is worth it.
Congratulations, you literally ignored everything I said. For a start, I said Sinner only just won his first grass title this year which was Halle, meanwhile Alcaraz who’s 2 years younger already has 2 Wimbledons. You ignored that one hey. And kudos to Sinner for QF’s and SF’s. Not a single clay Masters. Not even a final. Only just got his first grass title, hardly omnipresent in my opinion. Losing to Medvedev at Wimbledon while Carlos beats Med and then Djokovic to win his second consecutive Wimbledon title.
And I congratulate you for not understanding that you are judging both of them in 2024 and not both of their careers up to now. So you have to explain to me what it has to do with having won Wimbledon twice or never having won a masters on clay when the discussion was based on which of the two players had achieved the best season in this 2024. And in this 2024 Sinner he has been far more consistent than Alcaraz. And in any case no, between the two scenarios it is better to win the US Open by beating Fritz in the final after going out in the Wimbledon quarterfinals against Medvedev rather than win Wimbledon by beating Djokovic in the final and then go out in the second round with VdZ in New York. I mean it is much more honorable to be eliminated in the quarterfinals at Wimbledon by a Medvedev in a match that ended in the fifth set than to go out in the second round of the US Open with a peremptory 3-0 without appeal at the hands of a player who in that moment was out of the top 70, don't you think?
No because Alcaraz had played the Olympics and won a Silver Medal 2 weeks earlier while Sinner was benched from playing likely due to the hidden investigation to his doping.
Colossal lie, Sinner has proven to be a threat on every surface, this is when you reach the semi-finals in Monte Carlo and Paris making Tsitsipas suffer in the tournament in which he is historically most comfortable (and I also fail to mention the refereeing wrong suffered which would have given the double break in the third set) and Alcaraz in Paris in a match in which he obtained even more points and after a more critical type of approach. And even on grass, winning in Halle even on a more suitable surfaceNo because Alcaraz had played the Olympics and won a Silver Medal 2 weeks earlier while Sinner was benched from playing likely due to the hidden investigation to his doping.
Alcaraz overplayed his schedule while Sinner was holidaying in Italy with his fake tonsillitis while we now know the real reason for his absence
I’d take Alcaraz’s year as I said in my original post. Olympic silver medal over one more hard court Masters? Meh. Sinner has shown he’s only a threat to titles on hard courts.
I didn’t realize that Sinner has a streak of 65 straight matches of winning at least one set. That is mighty impressive.
But if Sinner just wins on hard courts surely that counts against him? Alcaraz won big titles on all 3 surfaces and leads the h2h with Sinner this year.
Spot on
How can the Supreme Court do anything, they arent involved in the voting lol
yes, but YE#1 is still most important and will decide. you see. fed never won 2 out of 4 big clay titles and no many his fans take it as big deal. many of them still stay with 2006 as the greatest season despite that he had negative h2h vs rafa and had no clay titles in that season. and nole in 2015 won on all surfaces and had 2 more masters and more points (even if we transform points between different systems).
Yep, left it all out there...
