Daniel Andrade
Hall of Fame
Sinner obviously has had the better year, but Alcaraz hasn't played as much, has he?
Who has had the greater year between Sinner and Alcaraz 2024 so far
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CHillTennis
Hall of Fame
The guy that isn't being investigated for doping.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
Did you say?
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chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Congrats to Jannik! I think he virtually have sealed the deal on year end no.1 with today's results. Sinner still can earn more points in Shanghai, while the nearest player to him on points, Alcaraz, was upset and now has to play a 250 event to have any chance of catching Sinner. If sinner wins Shanghai, I think the race to year end no.1 will be over. The two players are now 3,020 points apart, Sinner in the lead, and even if Sinner doesn't play any match from this point onwards, Alcaraz should win Basel/Vienna, Paris, another 250 event, and then win Turin without losing any matches. That in itself will be extremely difficult, but Sinner just needs to win Shanghai to mathematically make it impossible to lose YE#1. 2 more matches for Jannik. He has been no.1 for a good part of 2024, so with 2 slams each, I think Sinner has had the better year.
Tennisfan339
Professional
See, what happened today is exactly why Sinner is number #1 with almost 4000 bonus points. Alcaraz beats him in an outstanding final in a 500, but then he is upset by some lower ranked player the following week in a much more important tournament. Not saying Machac is a mug but it isn't the first time Alcaraz loses to these kind of players in 2024. It's not even his worst defeat, by the way. I'd say Monfils Monteiro and BVDZ were worse. But Unless Machac also beats Sinner, it's an ugly loss for Carlitos and that's why he won't be number 1 at the end of the year. Here you have your answers.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
Here are the players who beat Alcaraz this season (I don't consider Monteiro);
Zverev
Jarry
Dimitrov
Rublev
Draper
Djokovic
Monfils
VdZ
Machac
And here is Sinner record this season against the same players;
Zverev 1-0
Jarry 1-0
Dimitrov 2-0
Rublev 2-1
Draper 1-0
Djokovic 1-0
Monfils 1-0
VdZ 2-0
Machac 1-0
Total 12-1
Zverev
Jarry
Dimitrov
Rublev
Draper
Djokovic
Monfils
VdZ
Machac
And here is Sinner record this season against the same players;
Zverev 1-0
Jarry 1-0
Dimitrov 2-0
Rublev 2-1
Draper 1-0
Djokovic 1-0
Monfils 1-0
VdZ 2-0
Machac 1-0
Total 12-1
taster
Rookie
True, but tendentious.
Here is a player that Alcaraz has beaten 3-0 this year, he's called Jannik Sinner.
Sinner has been far more consistent than Alcaraz this year, we all know it, no need to start dredging up evidence in a case that's pretty open and shut.
StefanosRespecter
Rookie
Sinner because he is ranked number one currently, but I am biased towards him. I think there is a good case to put Raz number 1 as well.
StefanosRespecter
Rookie
Sinner is 61-6 this year, and you say Alcaraz is more consistent? At what?
taster
Rookie
Re-Read my post, i never said Alcaraz is more consistent, i said Sinner is more consistent, plain and clear.
StefanosRespecter
Rookie
Ah, apologies.
Olli Jokinen
Hall of Fame
I voted Sinner, but I might give it to Alcaraz if he wins YEC – unless Sinner wins a couple of masters before that and Alcaraz doesn't.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
Curiosities of Sinneraz in this 2024.
The tournaments they have played simultaneously so far in 2024 have been 10, of these 10 they have won 9, the only one they did not win was in Madrid but with an asterisk due to Sinner's withdrawal when he was in the running (qf). If Sinner and Alcaraz compete, the history of the season says that Alcaraz wins, if Alcaraz comes out first, the history of this season says that Sinner wins the tournament. This is all incredible.
The tournaments they have played simultaneously so far in 2024 have been 10, of these 10 they have won 9, the only one they did not win was in Madrid but with an asterisk due to Sinner's withdrawal when he was in the running (qf). If Sinner and Alcaraz compete, the history of the season says that Alcaraz wins, if Alcaraz comes out first, the history of this season says that Sinner wins the tournament. This is all incredible.
Winner Sinner
Hall of Fame
In the updated ranking between Sinner(1) and Alcaraz(2) there are approximately 4800 points of difference (I remember that the 400 IW points were taken away from the Italian) which is approximately the same gap that there is between Alcaraz(2) and Draper(19). Incredible.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Poll is still open lol
There should be zero votes for Alcaraz is people are honest.
There should be zero votes for Alcaraz is people are honest.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
1. Alcaraz went 3-0 on Sinner and beat Djoko in a GS F
2. Alcaraz gave his all at the OG
3. Alcaraz didn't test positive for PEDs
4. Alcaraz beat Tsitsipas-Sinner-Zverev to win his first RG
5. Alcaraz completed the surface slam
Sinner ruled hard courts yes. But Alcaraz beat tougher opponents to win his Slams and has won the most prestigious ones
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Alcaraz beat Sinner to win a Slam.
Did Sinner beat Alcaraz to win a Slam? Let's make it super simple since you don't want to read.
No, but he beat the guys who beat Alcaraz. Stop the H2H silliness, you are better than that.
1H-Backhand
Rookie
Single handedly winning the Davis cup. Again.
nighthawkrr
Rookie
Especially with the ending dominance.
1H-Backhand
Rookie
No contest really
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
You think I'm just arguing h2h? Let's review their QF-SF-F draws shall we
Sinner AO: Rublev-Djoko-Med
Sinner USO: Med-Draper-Fritz
Alcaraz Wimbledon: Paul-Med-Djoko
Alcaraz RG: Tsitsi-Sinner-Zverev
Sinner's USO path was by far the weakest Slam run. And he didn't beat Alcaraz at all
When Fed went winless in a season against Djoko it was "DJOMINATION" and when he went winless in a season against Rafa he was Rafa's pigeon
Now h2h is somehow beneath us? C'mon
The guy who shut out the other by the score of 3-0 should be the winner! The other guy didn't even lay a hand on him!
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Ok say whatever ******** you want to. Go vote sinner
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Just FYI Federer's most humiliating year vs Rafa was 2008, no?
His record that year vs Nadal was 0-4
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