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Well I was being a little generous there.
Who has the best post 30 career?
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mike danny
Bionic Poster
2005 is legit since he played an actual ATG in his mid 20's. USO 2005 Agassi could beat AO 2022 Nadal the way he played against Fed.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I'm not. I used to think Nadal had better longevity at the USO, but I changed my mind. Fed wins in 2011 and 2015 with Nadal's draws.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
lol wat?
I feel like everyone knew he'd be back on top eventually.
Rafa was more unexpected. I remember rooting for him in this forum to win the 2017 French Open because I thought he wouldn't get any more chances. Lololololololol
holy tennis
Semi-Pro
Basically equal at Slams, so I give the edge to Nadal for producing more epics.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
People have amnesia it seems. Djokovic had already bought a home in Helsinki by mid-2018. Him and Murray were usually brought up together.
Only the most hopeful Novak fans thought he would be back winning Slams.
spottishwood
Hall of Fame
AO: Nadal. He beat Peakvedev(Who had straight setted Djokovic) being severally declined and playing with a sore foot.
RG: GOATdal obviously. ROFLMAO
WC: Nadal. The organizers ripped him off by closing the roof in WC'18. They also cheated him by allotting Fedr the #2 seed when he could've had a kinder draw and smoked Djoko in the Finals. WC'20 was cancelled. Djoko could only vulture WC'21 because Nadal was injured.
USO: Nadal obviously. Beat GOATing JMDP and Anderson in USO'17. Djoko could only win the next one cuz Nadal was injured. Beat Peakvedev in USO'19. Could've won USO'20/21 also given his positive H2H against Djokovic and Medvedev.
RG: GOATdal obviously. ROFLMAO
WC: Nadal. The organizers ripped him off by closing the roof in WC'18. They also cheated him by allotting Fedr the #2 seed when he could've had a kinder draw and smoked Djoko in the Finals. WC'20 was cancelled. Djoko could only vulture WC'21 because Nadal was injured.
USO: Nadal obviously. Beat GOATing JMDP and Anderson in USO'17. Djoko could only win the next one cuz Nadal was injured. Beat Peakvedev in USO'19. Could've won USO'20/21 also given his positive H2H against Djokovic and Medvedev.
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holy tennis
Semi-Pro
That looks more like the PETE guy parody
GabeT
Talk Tennis Guru
Novak won all four slams though
spottishwood
Hall of Fame
How do ya know him
. Aren't ya supposed to be a new poster who joined like three months ago?
holy tennis
Semi-Pro
Ever heard of read only? Was a HUGE fan of Djokovic since 2015 (the year when tennis began), but Nadal fans seemed to be a bit too aggressive for me to join. Now that the Slam race is over and Nadal is GOAT I can finally post without pressure.How do ya know him
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
Doesn’t matter when it’s an inflation era since 2014 and journeymen like crapster snood is in a French open final . Each “slam win” should be worth a half a slam
spottishwood
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I see. You were a 'LURKER'.
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Deleted member 762343
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Djokovic, obviously. Won 8 slams, took the weeks at #1 record, the numbers of M100 titles record and was one win away from the CYGS with 27 consecutive slam matches won. It's tempting to say it's actually Nadal because he got the slam record but it would be the right answer only if we were talking about their overall career.
jl809
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As the question is career not level, Federer is definitely out.
For Nadal: 1 Aussie Open win + 2 finals, 5 French Open wins, 2 Wimbledon SFs, 2 US Open wins, Olympic Gold (in doubles).
For Djokovic: 3 Aussie Open wins, 1 French Open win + 1 final, 3 Wimbledon wins, 1 US Open win.
For Nadal we have the fact that he got to 22, got to 14 FOs and the DCGS. For Djokovic we have the fact he got an entire CGS in his 30s (which is insane) and completed the double career golden masters.
tbh I have no idea lol. Probably Djokovic.
For Nadal: 1 Aussie Open win + 2 finals, 5 French Open wins, 2 Wimbledon SFs, 2 US Open wins, Olympic Gold (in doubles).
For Djokovic: 3 Aussie Open wins, 1 French Open win + 1 final, 3 Wimbledon wins, 1 US Open win.
For Nadal we have the fact that he got to 22, got to 14 FOs and the DCGS. For Djokovic we have the fact he got an entire CGS in his 30s (which is insane) and completed the double career golden masters.
tbh I have no idea lol. Probably Djokovic.
GabeT
Talk Tennis Guru
claims to be a Novak fan but also that slam race is over and Nadal is the GOAT?
where have I heard that before?
holy tennis
Semi-Pro
Me be like:claims to be a Novak fan but also that slam race is over and Nadal is the GOAT?
where have I heard that before?
Winners or Errors
Legend
Career inflation era for the win. Love these threads.
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duaneeo
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"Different" doesn't describe the competition post-30 Federer faced (peak/prime Djokovic/Nadal/Murray/Wawrinka) compared to post-30 Nadalovic. When you consider this HUMONGOUS factor...
holy tennis
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Our poor Wolf will have to catch up being allowed to play only 2 Slams of the 4.
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jl809
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For what it’s worth I think Djokovic has had a level close to Federer’s overall in their 30s.
AO: 30s Djokovic >> 30s Federer
FO: 30s Djokovic >> 30s Federer
WB: 30s Federer >> 30s Djokovic
USO: 30s Federer >> 30s Djokovic
Hard court M1000s: 30s Federer >> 30s Djokovic
Clay court M1000s: 30s Djokovic >> 30s Federer
Whereas for Nadal:
Hard court: 30s Federer >>> 30s Nadal
Clay court: 30s Nadal >>>>> 30s Federer
Grass court: 30s Federer >>>>> 30s Nadal
it’s not that bad for Nadal though because he gains ground back for teen / early 20s level vs teen / early 20s level
AO: 30s Djokovic >> 30s Federer
FO: 30s Djokovic >> 30s Federer
WB: 30s Federer >> 30s Djokovic
USO: 30s Federer >> 30s Djokovic
Hard court M1000s: 30s Federer >> 30s Djokovic
Clay court M1000s: 30s Djokovic >> 30s Federer
Whereas for Nadal:
Hard court: 30s Federer >>> 30s Nadal
Clay court: 30s Nadal >>>>> 30s Federer
Grass court: 30s Federer >>>>> 30s Nadal
it’s not that bad for Nadal though because he gains ground back for teen / early 20s level vs teen / early 20s level
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TheNachoMan
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Djokovic won a CGS after 30..again. Matched Agassi’s total too.
prosperned
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Which is why I’d put him above in achievements but Nadal’s is the more unexpected imo given his wear and tear.
I do acknowledge many questioned Djokovic before his incredible return against Rafa in WC18 but Djokovic to this day looks incredibly fit and mobile (yet to see him fully recover from covid however)
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