Who has the best strokes to copy?

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I'm not saying who has the best strokes, but who has the best strokes to follow and copy. Nadal's forehand is one of the best ever, but it is tough to copy and could easily result in injuries.
 
#20
I place my vote on sir MuryGOAT, his forehand is simple, yet effective (for the modern game of retrieving and top spin). His backhand is a bit ify, you have to be able to master the timing, so for two handed backhands, I’d say Fognini’s, it’s essentially a block with a bit of spin. For one handers, I’d say Federer’s, unlike some, it is effective for both spin shots, and flat shots.
 
#23
I'm not saying who has the best strokes, but who has the best strokes to follow and copy. Nadal's forehand is one of the best ever, but it is tough to copy and could easily result in injuries.
I disagree, To me it has always been Nadal's Forehand that is very easy to copy, Whenever I am struggling with my form and Footwork my body automatically switches to more Nadal like Forehand swing. To play a completely Nadal like Forehand, One should not focus on rotating the upper body and arm but rather try focusing Solely on Wrists, the whole arm follows automatically and the swing almost always finishes near or over my head.

There isn't much upper body rotation and every shot I play has heavy topspin and lands inside baseline but I got 0 direction control, I mean every shot goes Inside In / Cross Court no matter how early or late I take the ball:confused:, that sucks, only on very good days Inside out Works ( 1 or 2 good INSIDE OUT shots) and I need to be in position very early to go DTL.

So my experience was that Getting a 'Nadal' like forehand is much easier but Developing it is tough and frustrating, I once spent a whole day trying to play a most basic IO forehand and none of them went that way.. Total 0 shots in that direction, can u imagine the frustration? :mad:

Coming back to the Question-

Forehand - Delpotro, I have always found his forehand swing easy to copy, ofc u would need to change things slightly since most of us probably are Midgets compared to him:D

Backhand - There are many 2 handed Backhands that are way easier than any OHBH to copy, Hewitt and Davydenko stand out for me, they don't look that easy compared to say Nalbadian, but they actually are.

OHBH - This is tough and depends a lot how u are feeling the ball with a particular swing and grip. I guess every one should get their understanding of Basic Mechanics of OHBH clear, watch few pros in slow motion and Develop their own. If I would be hard pushed to Say a Name.... I would say WAWRINKA. :)
 
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I disagree, To me it has always been Nadal's Forehand that is very easy to copy, Whenever I am struggling with my form and Footwork my body automatically switches to more Nadal like Forehand swing. To play a completely Nadal like Forehand, One should loose focus from rotating the upper body and arm switch on focusing Solely on Wrists, the whole arm follows automatically and the swing almost always finishes near or over my head.

There isn't much upper body rotation and every shot I play has heavy topspin and lands inside baseline but I got 0 direction control, I mean every shot goes Inside In / Cross Court no matter how early or late I take the ball:confused:, that sucks, only on very good days Inside out Works ( 1 or 2 good INSIDE OUT shots) and I need to be in position very early to go DTL.

So my experience was that Getting a 'Nadal' like forehand is much easier but Developing it is tough and frustrating, I spent a whole day trying to play a most basic IO forehand and none of them went that way.. Totally 0 shots in that direction, can u imagine the frustration? :mad:

Coming back to the Question-

Forehand - Delpotro, I have always found his forehand swing easy to copy, ofc u would need to change things slightly since most of us probably are Midgets compared to him:D

Backhand - There are many 2 handed Backhands that are way easier than any OHBH to copy, Hewitt and Davydenko stand out for me, they don't look that easy compared to say Nalbadian, but they actually are.

OHBH - This is tough and depends a lot how u are feeling the ball with a particular swing and grip. I guess every one should get their understanding of Basic Mechanics of OHBH clear, watch few pros in slow motion and Develop their own. If I would be hard pushed to Say a Name.... I would say WAWRINKA. :)
I lost my forehand when I turned 35 or 40. My slice backhand is my more reliable shot now, and I really don’t like that.
 

bjk

Hall of Fame
#33
Is it possible to copy players with a semi-western forehand? I literally cannot hit at all with that grip, the racket doesn't move fast enough. Like most rec players, I use the old-fashioned eastern forehand, and almost no pros use eastern. A handful.
 
#35
Andy Murray is derided here for his forehand but if you watch videos of him from a back and court level perspective it's a very simple, efficient, easily replicable motion.
 
#38
I'd say this depends on how much you've played, how good your movement is and how tall you are. Without getting too coachy about it, big 3 for each of their strokes, with Wawrinka getting an honourable mention for both groundstrokes particularly OHBH.

If you're taller, probably look at the serve, BH and ab-flashing of Zverev (no idea whose FH to imitate for the big guys). If you're smaller, I'd have to say Fognini. He generates very good pace off both wings with clean strikes, plenty of spin and minimal take backs. He is often wrong footing and frustrating opponents because the strokes are very hard to read. The serve is decent too, as are the racquet smashes.
 

2good4U

Professional
#41
My hitting partner.

Some of the most naturally smooth strokes I've ever seen,
with a topspin one-handed BH as big as Nadal's forehand!
 
#49
do you guys think about the potential consequences before writing things like that ?! :eek:
more people playing like simon = more suffering eyes in the world :(
Simon has exquisite technique. Furthermore, you can copy someone's strokes and still implement your own strategy.

But nah you right, all the 2.0 rec players should emulate the Rafa buggywhip and Kyrgios forward facing tweener.
 

vex

Hall of Fame
#50
I'm not saying who has the best strokes, but who has the best strokes to follow and copy. Nadal's forehand is one of the best ever, but it is tough to copy and could easily result in injuries.
Do NOT attempt to copy Nadal's FH. It is basically impossible to replicate. Theres a reason only 1 dude hits like that. Its really not a natural swing, Rafa's a unique guy and it obviously works for him but for the average player its a trail of tears filled with mishits, dramatically reduced accuracy, launched shots and endless rim shots.

If I was starting from scratch I'd copy Fed's Eastern FH (yes I think EFH is way underrated and provides great accuracy) and, obviously the indisputable shot: Djokovic's BH.
 
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