Who is 90's Clay and why is he such a meme in these forums?

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90's clay was basically me if I decided to hold a vendetta against Federer for breaking Sampras' records.

I was, and still am a massive Sampras fan, my approach to Federer was different though. I saw a lot of Pete in him, a lot of Pete, and it was no surprise to me that Pete was his idol. If anyone was going to break Pete's record, I thought to myself back after watching USO 2004, it might as well be the guy who reminds me of him. For me, there couldn't be a bigger compliment. I didn't become a raging Fed fan, probably because despite the immense respect and admiration I had for Federer, I was still somewhat protective of Sampras, and was just looking for something different, which is when I became a fan of Djokovic...always saw the potential in his game, 2007 was when I really jumped on, after his performance in Sydney.
 

falstaff78

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Cracks me up. Every time. What a pair of burns.

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Indeed.

Nadal vs. Pete is one matchup I'd love to see. You'd think Pete would do better than most with his playing style but I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal got the better of him either. Either way I'd pay good money to see it.

Grass, fast HC, medium fast HC no chance for nadal.... Pistol pete easily wipes floor with rafa in all the 3 mentioned here
Medium HC advantage pete 75-25
Slow medium HC 50-50
Slow HC advantage Rafa 70-30
Clay........are you kidding me!! Rafa will keep on feeding bagels and breadsticks to pete
 

Jonas78

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90's clay was basically me if I decided to hold a vendetta against Federer for breaking Sampras' records.

I was, and still am a massive Sampras fan, my approach to Federer was different though. I saw a lot of Pete in him, a lot of Pete, and it was no surprise to me that Pete was his idol. If anyone was going to break Pete's record, I thought to myself back after watching USO 2004, it might as well be the guy who reminds me of him. For me, there couldn't be a bigger compliment. I didn't become a raging Fed fan, probably because despite the immense respect and admiration I had for Federer, I was still somewhat protective of Sampras, and was just looking for something different, which is when I became a fan of Djokovic...always saw the potential in his game, 2007 was when I really jumped on, after his performance in Sydney.
Then follows the natural question, why not Nadal? :)
 
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Then follows the natural question, why not Nadal? :)

Stylistically I liked Nadal pre his clay days. The flatter forehand, more aggressive, more take charge. Personally for me, his style change to more clay suited just put me off. Great champion, love his mental attitude, very inspiring, but not a game that I fell in love with. I prefer Federer's style more to Nadal's, if we talk only stroke mechanics.
 

Meles

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Always wondered why he called himself 90s Clay when he was such a big Pete fan?
I believe he liked to build up the Sampras clay era to explain Pete's lack of success. Did anyone ever find him actually knowledgeable on the subject his user name celebrates?
 

Meles

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Stylistically I liked Nadal pre his clay days. The flatter forehand, more aggressive, more take charge. Personally for me, his style change to more clay suited just put me off. Great champion, love his mental attitude, very inspiring, but not a game that I fell in love with. I prefer Federer's style more to Nadal's, if we talk only stroke mechanics.
When was this?:confused:
 

Mainad

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I believe he liked to build up the Sampras clay era to explain Pete's lack of success. Did anyone ever find him actually knowledgeable on the subject his user name celebrates?

That's the funny part. He never seemed to talk about 90s Clay only 90s Pete and 90s Pete, bless him, is not usually hailed for his prowess on clay!! :)
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

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I wish I could stay away from this beautiful disaster of a place ;) we all love tennis at the end of the day, even people who never agree, like you and me, I think all have an underlying appreciation for each other.
Never leave!
I believe he liked to build up the Sampras clay era to explain Pete's lack of success. Did anyone ever find him actually knowledgeable on the subject his user name celebrates?
Thats actually pretty smart move. He thought of everything :D
 

YellowFedBetter

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Was BS that he was banned. I hate that I didn’t really start increasing my presence on TT until after he was gone.

If the stuff he had said had been pro Fed he’d still be here.
 

augustobt

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Always wondered why he called himself 90s Clay when he was such a big Pete fan?
Oh Mainad, I wish you had paid a little more attention on his intentions.

His nickname was something like the antithesis of the "2004-07 week era" for a Sampras fan, as he always pushed the agenda that the depth of field during the 90's on clay was the reason that Sampras never really achieved on that particular surface. Was he right? Well, debatable.

He was a terrible troll back in his days, however I miss him if we compare to almost any new user that joined since he was banned, specially after 2017. At least 90's Clay knew a bit more than wikipedia. And had actually watched a tennis match before the year of 2010.
 

JackGates

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Oh Mainad, I wish you had paid a little more attention on his intentions.

His nickname was something like the antithesis of the "2004-07 week era" for a Sampras fan, as he always pushed the agenda that the depth of field during the 90's on clay was the reason that Sampras never really achieved on that particular surface. Was he right? Well, debatable.

He was a terrible troll back in his days, however I miss him if we compare to almost any new user that joined since he was banned, specially after 2017. At least 90's Clay knew a bit more than wikipedia. And had actually watched a tennis match before the year of 2010.
Yes, the guy used some good arguments that maybe we are overrating current generations, but then his personal bias totally destroyed all his crediblity, because he didn't use the same arguments for Nadal or Djokovic or Murray.

It's a shame, because he was smart and funny, but how does that help him if his feelings clouded his analysis?

Plus, considering he was a Pete fan, I was really dissapointed that he failed to see value in Fed's shotmaking and creativity. Because those are the reasons why we are his fans and stats aren't the only reason why Fed is great, so it was never about the stats for us true Fed and Pete fans.
 
90's Clay was/is strong era trolling that will never be eclipsed...
Not like this MUG era of trolls today that could only wish to live up to his legacy! Just as desperate wishing as his favorite idol Sampras actually going through to the finals of the French Open.
His love of the every player from the 90' is only inversely match by his neverending hatress towards Federer.
 
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