Who is better Rafael Nadal or Roger Federer?

[fastdunn]

Has Nadal peaked or not ?

I think Fed is in his peak right now from 2005.

 

[Shamo]

What does what experts predict have to do with anything? "Experts" thought that Donald Young would beat Giorgio whatshislastname in the US Open round one last year.

experts opinions are pretty valid for reflection of the most likely outcome of the match so also when you bet for example

and experts haven't been proven wrong with young it's to early to say that at least now.

 

[Swissv2]

If Rafa wins more GS than Federer, than I can say hes better than Federer. Rafa still has 5 more years to go to match Federer. I just think tennis fans have it pretty good to see a new rivalry between great players that we once enjoyed between Agassi and Sampres, Borg, Lendl, Mac, etc.

 

[TrueAce]

most of the year he was a nobody himself!

and the favourite in the french open match was for many experts and nadal himself federer

In fact it was even not sure and that after nadal had a 59 match streak on clay

I guess I didn't hear from many of the experts. All I heard leading up to the match is Nadal is the best clay courter in the world and was the favorite...In my eyes he was the favorite and won the match just like Roger at Wimbledon. I remember Federer himself saying something like Nadal probably felt the same pressure at the French as he did at Wimbledon because they were both defending champions etc.

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

NADAL 6 AND FED 2...this is not a tough decision guys.

 

[Rabbit]

Nads 2 Grand Slam Titles and Fed 8.....I don't know, the plot thickens....

 

[simi]

NADAL 6 AND FED 2...this is not a tough decision guys.

BLAKE 2 AND NADAL 0 ... yup, not a tough decision at all.

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

BLAKE 2 AND NADAL 0 ... yup, not a tough decision at all.

good point! Finally a worthy opponent! Ouch that hurt!

I would have to admit that Blake is definitely the player on hard courts this year...but not on Clay or grass.

By analogy Nadal is better than Fed on clay (0-4), better on hard courts (1-2). But Fed has the advantage on grass. (1-0)....for now.

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Nads 2 Grand Slam Titles and Fed 8.....I don't know, the plot thickens....

fed has had more time....what do you want Nadal to do? Would you have him turn pro at 12??

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Brad Gilbert says Nadal is better than Fed. Check out his rankings:

http://www.bradgilberttennis.com/index2.html

scroll down to: "scaps rankings"

 

[crazylevity]

Does anyone here take Brad Gilbert seriously?

 

[harryz]

Pizza or burgers? Apples or oranges?

What is better? The question about Nadal or Federer is about as inane. Worse even than watching Fox news or listening to Rush Limbaugh, and that's really bad... Give it a rest, already.

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Does anyone here take Brad Gilbert seriously?

ANDRE AGASSI, ANDY RODDICK AND NOW MURRAY AND ENGLAND

 

[dandy2fast]

ANDRE AGASSI, ANDY RODDICK ...

They take him so seriously that they dumped him... , and it won't take more than 1 or 2 years for Murray to do so...

 

[dandy2fast]

I would have to admit that Blake is definitely the player on hard courts this year...but not on Clay or grass.

Give us a break!

How many slams on hardcourts for blake in 2006? 0/1
How many slams on hardcourts for Federer in 2006? 1/1

How many master series won on hard for blake in 2006? 0/2
How many master series won on hard for Federer in 2006? 2/2

Do you want to insist about Blake beeing the player of the year on hardcourts? Or do I have to remind you the Blake Vs Federer head to heads?

 

[Chang]

Give us a break!

How many slams on hardcourts for blake in 2006? 0/1
How many slams on hardcourts for Federer in 2006? 1/1

How many master series won on hard for blake in 2006? 0/2
How many master series won on hard for Federer in 2006? 2/2

Do you want to insist about Blake beeing the player of the year on hardcourts? Or do I have to remind you the Blake Vs Federer head to heads?

And you can remind him about Blake and Nadal head to heads.

 

[Rabbit]

fed has had more time....what do you want Nadal to do? Would you have him turn pro at 12??

From the looks of you and Granny Nads posts, he should have!

Let him at least equal Federer before all this ra ra BS.

 

[shawn1122]

fed has had more time....what do you want Nadal to do? Would you have him turn pro at 12??

Federer has slams on two different surfaces. So far Nadal has only proven himself a champion on one surface.

 

[TrueAce]

In terms of tennis history Federer is better but right now but Nadal is better head to head period....Nadal has figured out Fed's game better than Fed has figured out Nadal's...Even at our various levels here on the board theres none of this BS debating with our rivals.... all the other guy has to say is I've defeated you more than you've defeated me and the argument is over.

 

[Tennis_Goodness]

Federer is the much better overall player, if somebody wanted to be a tennis player they would be Roger Federer!

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

There is no need to debate because the US open will decide who is the better player this year once and for all

 

[Shamo]

There is no need to debate because the US open will decide who is the better player this year once and for all

it would not, they would have each 2 salms this year IF nadal would win, so again a fanboy comment

 

[Shamo]

Brad Gilbert says Nadal is better than Fed. Check out his rankings:

http://www.bradgilberttennis.com/index2.html

scroll down to: "scaps rankings"

WTF??? where exactly does he say nadal is better than federer????
this ranking is based on improvment and actual achievement of a player and because nadal at that moment played his best tennis his up there and federer played like always.

also this ranking wasn't updated since after the french so stop with your false facts, like when you said tracy austin said nadal is all-courter without any source that proves that, fanboy

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

WTF??? where exactly does he say nadal is better than federer????
this ranking is based on improvment and actual achievement of a player and because nadal at that moment played his best tennis his up there and federer played like always.

also this ranking wasn't updated since after the french so stop with your false facts, like when you said tracy austin said nadal is all-courter without any source that proves that, fanboy

it says Nadal #1 and Fed #2...to me that means that Nadal is better.

Secondly I already proved Tracy Austins statement...go see that string. If you have a counter argument then say it otherwise shut up.

Finally are you fat or something? Why did you name yourself after a whale?

 

[Tennis_Goodness]

No one actually thinks Nadal is the best except the fanboys. The greats and tennis experts know what they are talking about!

 

[Shamo]

it says Nadal #1 and Fed #2...to me that means that Nadal is better.

you say it, to you,

I didn't know gilbert makes the atp entry rankings LOL

I gave you my counter argument by explaining you on what this rankings a based

am I right or did nadal never reach the number 1 ranking??? I wonder why?

so why can someone who never was number 1 be it for you? ah! I know you are a fanboy

 

[Shamo]

Finally are you fat or something? Why did you name yourself after a whale?

Is your girlfriend named shamo else I don't know why you would talk of a whale????

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Is your girlfriend named shamo else I don't know why you would talk of a whale????

Havnt you ever heard of shamo the whale? Why do you use that tag?

 

[Shamo]

Secondly I already proved Tracy Austins statement...

I didn't see any proof???

 

[Shamo]

Havnt you ever heard of shamo the whale? Why do you use that tag?

It's based on the titel of a book a like, where the hero(more anti-hero) is nicknamed "shamo" the symbolism of this nickname is explained in the book but as I know it has nothing to do with a whale???

search in google when you want

the whale in this book you say is probably named like that because of the same reason

 

[wimble10]

I think Fed is better but it will be important to see how Nadal does at the US Open.

 

[TrueAce]

Shamo Nadal didnt play in the Australian which Fed was lucky he didn't. He would have most likely lost due the the nature of the court being similar to clay high bounces etc. Fed should win the US Open since it suits his game more if he doesn't that would be a big blow since a lot of people are predicting Nadal at next years aussie. They would have 2 slams a piece with Nadal not competing in one so thats not a fair comparsion..

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Does anyone here take Brad Gilbert seriously?

ANDRE AGASSI, ANDY RODDICK AND NOW MURRAY AND ENGLAND

They take him so seriously that they dumped him... , and it won't take more than 1 or 2 years for Murray to do so...

Are you freaking kidding me? Look these are the facts

Andre Agassi pre Gilbert...not even in the to 30 I believe.

Agassi with Gilbert: French Open winner and #1 in the world

Agassi Post Gilbert: Not even in the top 10 and no grand slams since the French

Roddick Pre Gilbert: No grand slams

Roddick w/Gilbert... US open, #1 in the world & 2 wimby Finals losing only to Fed

Roddick post Gilbert: Not even in the top 10


You better take Gilbert seriously

 

[Breaker]

ANDRE AGASSI, ANDY RODDICK AND NOW MURRAY AND ENGLAND




Are you freaking kidding me? Look these are the facts

Andre Agassi pre Gilbert...not even in the to 30 I believe.

Agassi with Gilbert: French Open winner and #1 in the world

Agassi Post Gilbert: Not even in the top 10 and no grand slams since the French

Roddick Pre Gilbert: No grand slams

Roddick w/Gilbert... US open, #1 in the world & 2 wimby Finals losing only to Fed

Roddick post Gilbert: Not even in the top 10


You better take Gilbert seriously

Roddick didn't get to any Wimbledon finals with Gilbert and is in the top 10 atm, and I think Agassi racked up a few more slams too if I'm not mistaken.

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Roddick didn't get to any Wimbledon finals with Gilbert and is in the top 10 atm, and I think Agassi racked up a few more slams too if I'm not mistaken.

I believe Roddick played against Fed in a Wimbledon final and Gilbert was his coach. Please correct me if I am wrong.

In any event the fact is that Gilbert revamped their careers and without Gilbert they have fallen wuite a long way.

 

[Breaker]

Yep my bad I thought he fired him at the end of 03 but it was indeed the end of 04. Gilbert may be a coaching genius and understands how to play the game well but sometimes I think he just talks for the sake of hearing himself talk, if he can take Murray to the top then I'll respect and listen to every word the man says. Until then it's hard to take him seriously because of some of the outlandish claims he makes in his commentating. For example,

"Andy is takin' Murray to da woodshed today!"
"I can feel it, here comes the break, a breeze over my left shoulder is telling me"
"And when I coached Roddick..."
"Oh yeah and when I coached Agassi"

He may be a great coach and ok analyst but sometimes he talks WAY too much.

 

[crazylevity]

Isn't the whale Shamu? not Shamo?

And why are we talking about whales again?

 

[Breaker]

Because we want to take some time to think of our underwater friends, and no I don't mean the U.S of good ol A.

 

[crazylevity]

heh...strange...I know the name of the whale in an American theme park when I'm halfway around the world, and these guys got it wrong. *teehee*

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Yep my bad I thought he fired him at the end of 03 but it was indeed the end of 04. Gilbert may be a coaching genius and understands how to play the game well but sometimes I think he just talks for the sake of hearing himself talk, if he can take Murray to the top then I'll respect and listen to every word the man says. Until then it's hard to take him seriously because of some of the outlandish claims he makes in his commentating. For example,

"Andy is takin' Murray to da woodshed today!"
"I can feel it, here comes the break, a breeze over my left shoulder is telling me"
"And when I coached Roddick..."
"Oh yeah and when I coached Agassi"

He may be a great coach and ok analyst but sometimes he talks WAY too much.

Agreed! Gilbert is not a very likeable guy. In fact he is a complete jerk that sems to only care about money. You are also right about him never shutting up....Andre nicknamed him "motormouth"......but his results are truly awesome! I have to respect him even though he has a terible personality. Its the same with Mcenroe...he is a complete jerk...but what an artist!

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Isn't the whale Shamu? not Shamo?

That depends...have you seen a picture of Shamo?

 

[Marat Safinator]

Federer is no.1, nadal is no.2. simple

 

[The Pusher Terminator]

Federer is no.1, nadal is no.2. simple

and Safin is ????????????????....completely finished...lol