Who Is Better Simon Or Tsonga?

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Tsonga or Simon?

Poll closed Apr 7, 2009.
  1. Tsonga

    36 vote(s)
    61.0%
  2. Simon

    19 vote(s)
    32.2%
  3. Equal

    4 vote(s)
    6.8%
  1. Knightmace

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    Both ahd good careers up to date but I would give the edge to Tsonga.

    Forehand-Tsgona
    Backhand- Simon (it's hard to breakdown)
    Volleys (Tsonga by far)
    Sevres (Tsonga)
    Court Coverage - (Simon)
    Mental Toughness (Simon)

    Accomplishments (Tsonga)

    What do you guys think?
     
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  2. Spider

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    Tsonga is pretty overrated in these forums, he hasnt done anything significant yet people talk about him like they do for someone like a Nadal, a Federer or even a Murray.

    He has to prove himself first. To answer your question, Tsonga has a better game as compared to Simon (doesn't mean he will achieve more though).

    Time will tell.
     
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  3. edberg505

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    Well, he did smoke Murray like a cheap cigar en route to his first slam final. In fact he was victim number 1. How about this? How about we make a little bet. I bet that Tsonga will make it farther than Murray in Wimbledon this year. Hell, I bet he makes it farther than him in the FO too.
     
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  4. Knightmace

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    ok...........
     
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  5. tahiti

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    I think Tsonga is more talented and dynamic than Simon and will go further. When he learns to mature and play his game with less court antics. not that that's bad, but it messes with his concentration.
     
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  6. shadows

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    I've got to go with Tsonga over Simon, I think they'll swap positions by the end of the year (as in one over the other, not exact ranking spots). Gilles has a great game though when he puts it together, particularly when he steps up and is aggressive a bit more frequently.

    mmm, can't wait to see Jo play at wimbledon this year, should be good ^^
     
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  7. ruerooo

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    Simon took over the French #1 position from Tsonga in the wake of Jo Wil's healing from his surgery. They're like the Federer/Nadal of France. :D I'd say they're pretty evenly matched right now.
     
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  8. thejoe

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    Tsonga has far more weapons than Simon. The only thing I can think of that qualifies as a weapon for Simon is his retriever skills.
     
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  9. tomas9848

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    I am gonna say Tsonga because he has done a lot more than Simon. He has a lot better strokes.
     
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  10. featherlight

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    Tsonga since he's got a master series and simon has 0.
     
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  11. federerdomination

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    Tsonga has a very good shot at catching Simon (in the rankings) this summer because of his lack of play during this time last year.
     
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  12. JediMindTrick

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    Simon has more talent because he can actually rally.
     
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  13. tintin

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    Serve:Tsonga

    backhand:Simon

    forehand:Tsonga

    aproach shots:Tsonga

    net play:Tsonga

    1hander,slice,drop shots:Tsonga

    defense:Simon

    defense to offense:Tsonga

    results in slams and MS:Tsonga>>>>Simon

    Simon has taken Hewitt,Federer,Nadal down

    Tsonga has taken Hewitt,Blake,Roddick,Murray,Nadal,Nabandian,Stepanek down

    Simon hasn't won a MS and his results in the majors are abysmal

    Tsonga has barely played in Paris and he missed both RG and W last year due to right knee surgery but he does play well on grass so if healhty he might not go far in Paris but look for him to make the 3th or even 4th round there.

    Tsonga has won all of his matches in DC unlike Simon;)

    Wouldn't surprise me if Tsonga makes the Quarters easily at Wimbledon because he played well against Gasquet when Gasquet was hot at the 2007 Wimbledon and Tsonga wasn't half the player he is
     
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  14. veroniquem

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    Tsonga no doubt. When did Simon play a slam final or win a master shield?
     
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  15. 10isplayer

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    i agree that simon hasn't had the results of tsonga yet in the GS but thats partially because simon's level has just recently risen dramatically. He made the third rd at the us open then he really burst onto the scene in the indoor season. In his first GS since his breakthrough he made the quarters and lost to Rafa.
     
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  16. edberg505

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    Yeah, that was his first time ever playing in Wimbledon.
     
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  17. tacou

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    tsonga definitely but 10is is right; AO09 was the only GS Simon was expected to do anything, and he made it to QF and lost to Nadal. not abysmal to me.

    both are great players, tsonga is just more explosive with his weapons.
     
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  18. shadows

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    I just took another look at the draw for Miami, if they both progress they'll meet in the next round xD
     
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  19. Mdubb23

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    Tsonga is a better tennis player. Simon would win a three-out-of-five-set match eight out of ten times.
     
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  20. SaintClaires

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    Yes, Tsonga completely destroyed Murray last year at the AO.

    7-5 6-4 0-6 7-6(5)


    I can't think of a scoreline that's more one-sided.

    Murray won more games than Tsonga. :-?
     
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  21. Breaker

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    Care to elaborate? Tsonga loves playing defensive minded players and also has been more consistent at slams up to this point.
     
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  22. foLster

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    He made a grand slam final, that's the next best thing to winning one. I don't see how he's over rated.
     
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  23. Serve_Ace

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    I like Simon and I think that Tsonga plays that aggressive style that Simon likes, the more pace of the ball the better. So I would say Simon imo
     
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  24. ESP#1

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    Tsonga has more weapons but has proven to be a streaky player, Simon is more consistent and has better footwork but doesn't possess the fire power

    too different to compare, i guess you can go off the rankings:-?
     
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  25. Mdubb23

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    I agree Tsonga loves playing defensive-minded players, but I also believe Simon isn't a defensive-minded player. He has more of a "how can I neutralize my opponent and then take advantage?" mindset as opposed to a "how can I keep my sorry ass in the point?" type of mindset. Then again, I suppose people can have varying opinions of what a "defensive" style is. I believe it only extends as far to people who do absolutely nothing to control a point, just focus on keeping the ball in play, instead of someone like Simon who steadily works the point. If you watch Simon in-depth, you'll realize that their is a method to his madness--he is constantly trying to create opportunites to take advantage of the point. Simon is also an unbelievably intelligent human being (intelligence, that, in my opinion, Tsonga lacks completely). From what I have gathered from his interviews, he is extremely shrewd and calculating; he always has an amazing sense and awareness of what is occurring on court, and how to make the most of it. In that regard, he reminds me of vintage Brad Gilbert, and how he used his astounding mental game to make up for sub-par strokes and natural ability. Both he and Tsonga are in extremely good physical condition, and, to sum it up, I'd give a slight, but consistent, edge to Simon.
     
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  26. federerdomination

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    I think Tsonga is playing Simon next
     
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  27. JeMar

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    Ouch, owned by SaintClaires.
     
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  28. tintin

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    you don't like Tsonga and it shows because the person you are describing here as in shrewd and calculating is NOTHING like Tsonga.On the other hand,people are now and for some time have been getting on Simon's case for being way to arrogant for his lack of success in the majors despite being ranked as high as he is.

    Tsonga for all of his shouting on the court is described by the media;his countrymen and women as an avid reader who likes time with his family;friends;DC mates and his countrywomen,except for Bartoli :lol: and for his avid love of fishing

    If you find Tsonga calculating I wonder what you think of Blake and the fact that he has yet to make a slam semis;)
     
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  29. Mdubb23

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    Sorry, I should have made myself clear--I ment Simon was shrewd and calculating. However, your points are correct and well-taken.
     
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  30. tsongafan

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    for sure it has to be tsonga. And i might have to disagree about the mental toughness, i think tsonga is amazing at that, definitley one of the best. And tsonga also has a lot of passion and for sure fire. he will definitly go very far. I predict he will win a slam before murray and simon.
     
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