Who is considered the better player Gasquet or Gonzalez?

Who is better

  • Gasquet

    Votes: 9 12.5%

  • Gonzalez

    Votes: 63 87.5%
  • Total voters
    72
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clout

Hall of Fame
Gonzalez is wayyy better lmao. He made 1 GS finals losing to peak Fed, while winning two medals at the Olympics (one silver and one bronze). Both of them were top 10 players in their day (who would always take L's to the top players), but Gonzo's game prob had more potential to take it to the top players compared to Richard.
 
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Hall of Fame
Gonzalez is wayyy better lmao. He made 1 GS finals losing to peak Fed, while winning two medals at the Olympics (one silver and one bronze). Both of them were top 10 players in their day (who would always take L's to the top players), but Gonzo's game prob had more potential to take it to the top players compare
 
ibbi

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
I don't know why this is so one sided? There are not many people playing the game to have won titles on 4 different surfaces, but Gasquet is one of them. Don't think Gonzalez even ever got a sniff at a grass court final. Couple that with those two matches he played with Federer in Monte Carlo and Hamburg in 2005, and I'll go with Richie between the two of them.
 
FHtennisman

FHtennisman

Professional
Gonzalez by a mile. Gasquet just seems powder puff when compared to Gonzo, out of the two - clearly Gonzalez with his power FH and all round decent game.
 
FHtennisman

FHtennisman

Professional
Gonzalez by a mile. Gasquet just seems powder puff when compared to Gonzo, out of the two - clearly Gonzalez with his power FH and all round decent game.
 
tacou

tacou

G.O.A.T.
zill said:
He did take out peak fed in 2007 as a teenager at Monte Carlo. Also he has won more titles than González.
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True but Gonzo also beat peak Fed at the YEC where he was virtually untouchable, not as young though. Good point on titles. iirc there was a year they finished runner up at Canada and Cinci with Fed clubbing them both.
 
zill

zill

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tacou said:
True but Gonzo also beat peak Fed at the YEC where he was virtually untouchable, not as young though. Good point on titles. iirc there was a year they finished runner up at Canada and Cinci with Fed clubbing them both.
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Also Gasquet’s talent is rated very high and always mentioned. More than Gonzo’s talent. That is a plus.
 
tacou

tacou

G.O.A.T.
zill said:
Also Gasquet’s talent is rated very high and always mentioned. More than Gonzo’s talent. That is a plus.
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How is that a plus? Gonzo had great talent also and was a very flashy player on his day. I am a big Gasquet fan, but my fandom does not make him a better player.
 
B

buscemi

Legend
tacou said:
Love both but Gonzalez and what is the arguement for Richie?
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-More titles (14 vs. 11);
-More finals (28 vs. 22);
-More years in the top 10 (4 vs. 2);
-More years in the top 20 (8 vs. 6);
-2+ titles on hard, clay, and grass vs. no grass court titles/finals for Gonzo;
-More top 10 wins (30 vs. 27);
-Member of Davis Cup winning team;
-More career wins (486 vs. 370);
-More wins at Majors (99 vs. 74)
 
Vanilla Slice

Vanilla Slice

Professional
Gonzalez without a doubt.

Obviously he made a grand slam final but people forget he almost made a second final at Roland Garros in 2009. He lost in 5 sets to soderling in the semis.

Always showed a fight that Gasquet never had even though Gasquet is more naturally talented.
 
Vanilla Slice

Vanilla Slice

Professional
Gonzalez without a doubt.

Obviously he made a grand slam final but people forget he almost made a second final at Roland Garros in 2009. He lost in 5 sets to soderling in the semis.

Always showed a fight that Gasquet never had even though Gasquet is more naturally talented.
 
T

Tornes

Semi-Pro
42:3 is a little bit too cruel for Richaard. I also think Gonzo is a little bit better player, but just little bit better. And Gasquet has something in his way too (more titles, more consistent).

It is the same as the tread there was before comparing Cilic and del Potro (it was like 1:99 or something). The player with one less GS final and one less Master 1000 had 99 % of votes...
 
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HuusHould

Hall of Fame
Gazelle said:
At least Gonzalez managed to beat Nadal once, or maybe even twice...outside Kindergarten.
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I know you'll say it doesn't count, but you do know Gasquet just beat Rafa in straight sets at Kooyong? I assume the kindergarten reference was juniors?
 
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HuusHould

Hall of Fame
Well I think we've ascertained that the answer to the OP's question is clearly Gonzalez. However if you ask a slightly different question the answer is Gasquet!
 
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Gonzo had the higher upside. Overall achievements are pretty similar, so it's hard to split them. It is hard to believe that the highest level tournament that each of them has won is a 250. They've each lost a few ms1000 finals, all to the big 3.
 
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HuusHould

Hall of Fame
TheNatural said:
Gonzo had the higher upside. Overall achievements are pretty similar, so it's hard to split them. It is hard to believe that the highest level tournament that each of them has won is a 250. They've each lost a few ms1000 finals, all to the big 3.
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Yeah, with a big forehand and biggish serve Gonzo on his day was always going to be better, but as a consequence of less heavy artillery Gasquet's court craft is/was clearly better, net play also.
 
Steve0904

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
AnOctorokForDinner said:
Gonzo for peak, Gaschoke was longevity.
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This is the most accurate answer I'd say. I liked Gonzo more than Gasquet as well, but when you take personal bias out of it this should be closer than the poll indicates. Gonzalez is not that much better than Gasquet. The poll doesn't ask who you like more.
 
Shaolin

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Fabresque said:
Ahahaha that made me laugh cuz I imagined some brain dead caveman clubbing 300mph forehands at Federer.
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He hit it like a f#$%$#% monster


I remember a quote he had he said people asked him if he was abused as a child because of the anger he hit the ball with!!
 
killerboi2

killerboi2

Hall of Fame
Sabratha said:
OK then.

I think Nicolas Lapentti is about the same as Cedric Pioline.
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8 time quarters and beyond vs 2 time quarters and beyond in slams. 2 slam finalist vs a no slam finalist. Same amount of titles, Pioline leading the head to head 2-0. I dunno man, seems pretty conclusive that Pioline is better to me, considering he either matches him or trumps him in most areas.

Who do you think is better out of Gasquet or Gonzalez by the way? Just getting the feeling that my post offended you for some reason.
 
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killerboi2 said:
8 time quarters and beyond vs 2 time quarters and beyond in slams. 2 slam finalist vs a no slam finalist. Same amount of titles, Pioline leading the head to head 2-0. I dunno man, seems pretty conclusive that Pioline is better to me, considering he either matches him or trumps him in most areas.

Who do you think is better out of Gasquet or Gonzalez by the way? Just getting the feeling that my post offended you for some reason.
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Gonzalez. Career High: 5. Made a GS final, a SF and a whole bunch of QFs. Basically how you view Lapentti V Pioline (and I agree even though Lapentti was one of my favorites).
 
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killerboi2 said:
8 time quarters and beyond vs 2 time quarters and beyond in slams. 2 slam finalist vs a no slam finalist. Same amount of titles, Pioline leading the head to head 2-0. I dunno man, seems pretty conclusive that Pioline is better to me, considering he either matches him or trumps him in most areas.

Who do you think is better out of Gasquet or Gonzalez by the way? Just getting the feeling that my post offended you for some reason.
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Gonzalez. Career High: 5. Made a GS final, a SF and a whole bunch of QFs. Basically how you view Lapentti V Pioline (and I agree even though Lapentti was one of my favorites).
 
The Green Mile

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Shaolin said:
He hit it like a f#$%$#% monster


I remember a quote he had he said people asked him if he was abused as a child because of the anger he hit the ball with!!
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What's amazing is that this video, while still awesome, barely scratches the surface of Gonzo's sheer quantity of power forehands. Every Gonzo match I watch for the first time or revisit these days, there's another barrage of ridiculous winners that would make anybody's jaw drop, that isn't on any of the highlight vids.

Last match I watched of his, Roddick vs Gonzo Cinci 02, Roddick netted a slower serve and said "106 mph first serve and you miss it. He's hitting his ground strokes harder than that." :D There were some mighty bombs in that match from Gonzo.
 
tacou

tacou

G.O.A.T.
Steve0904 said:
This is the most accurate answer I'd say. I liked Gonzo more than Gasquet as well, but when you take personal bias out of it this should be closer than the poll indicates. Gonzalez is not that much better than Gasquet. The poll doesn't ask who you like more.
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Would assume people "like" Gasquet more. I know Gonzalez is retired by he is pretty much never mentioned on these boards. Richard mis my favorite player, I just think Gonzalez was more dangerous to the top players and his one major final overshadows Richard's consistency/longevity.
 
Prabhanjan

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The Green Mile said:
54-5 is pretty harsh though lol, similar ratio to the Cilic/Delpo poll.
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Made it 55-5 now. Apart from AO 07, I recollect his performance in WTF 07 when he defeated Fed in the round robin, and lost agonizingly closer in FO SF 09. That was a good match vs Soderling. Do I remember any Gasquet 5 set match? Maybe only the defeat of Wawrinka at Wimbledon.

This for me is on similar lines as Ferrer vs, say, del Potro. No matter what consistency Ferrer offers, he is not going to win slam.
 
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axlrose

Professional
Beside that trade mark backhand, Richard has variety, that's why he's won on all surfaces.

Gonzo is a ball basher, another version of Wawrinka with a better forehand and worse backhand.

For me, Richard is more fun to watch.
 
travlerajm

travlerajm

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This stat proves what other have been saying (that Gonzo was bigger threat to top guys):
Gonzo vs Big4: 8-21 = 27% win %
Gasquet vs Big4: 6-51 = 10% win %
 
abmk

abmk

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Prabhanjan said:
Made it 55-5 now. Apart from AO 07, I recollect his performance in WTF 07 when he defeated Fed in the round robin, and lost agonizingly closer in FO SF 09. That was a good match vs Soderling. Do I remember any Gasquet 5 set match? Maybe only the defeat of Wawrinka at Wimbledon.

This for me is on similar lines as Ferrer vs, say, del Potro. No matter what consistency Ferrer offers, he is not going to win slam.
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Vs Roddick in Wimbledon 2007 QF --- amazing backhand and passing shot show from Gasquet.
vs Stan in RG 13 4R -- excellent match, wit the 4th set being a brilliant winner fest.

then of course the 5-setter b/w Gasquet and Gonzalez himself in AO 09.
 
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