Who is doing Royal Rumble and AO Mens Final back to back?

[WarriorRafa]

Rollins v Rhodes for Mania

They're trying to misdirect. Thats not finishing the story for Cody at all. He's said it before in interviews as well that the belt Reigns is holding is the one he wants because thats the title his dad had. Then his story finishes. Who faces Rollins is a bit unpredictable but could be Mcintyre with the way things are heading. Bayley challenging Rhea is also a misdirect she will face Iyo. Becky will win the Chamber and face Rhea.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Yeah, it's definitely Roman vs Cody.

 

[The_Order]

Rollins v Rhodes for Mania

That would suck. Nobody wants to see it. The crowd reaction on RAW said it all.

Its already been done, Seth couldn't beat Cody in 3 matches, he's not beating Cody at WM.

Wwe just likes to keep fans guessing, they need to add intrigue to who Seth will face now that Punk's out of WM.

They will really shoot themselves in the foot at a milestone WM if they do that. A main event people don't want and a main event people would want (Rock v Roman) but in reality would suck, both matches with a known winner before it even starts...

They've spent 2 years building up Cody finishing the story, they moved him to Raw to keep him out of Roman's way, there's no way they're going to scrap that for the Rock.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Why do you people still watch WW E
There is no intrigue.

WWE is better than tennis bestie

 

[nolefam_2024]

WWE is better than tennis bestie

Is it ? I have last seen it in probably 2014. And it was unwatchable post 2011 save for Punk and Lesnar.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Is it ? I have last seen it in probably 2014. And it was unwatchable post 2011 save for Punk and Lesnar.

Oh man it was pretty damn bad for a few years there, completely agree. Even I had lost a lot of interest. They’ve been on fire for the last year though and its still getting better and better. Now is a really good time to start back watching, especially bc Wrestlemania season started last week

 

[Hitman]

That would suck. Nobody wants to see it. The crowd reaction on RAW said it all.

Its already been done, Seth couldn't beat Cody in 3 matches, he's not beating Cody at WM.

Wwe just likes to keep fans guessing, they need to add intrigue to who Seth will face now that Punk's out of WM.

They will really shoot themselves in the foot at a milestone WM if they do that. A main event people don't want and a main event people would want (Rock v Roman) but in reality would suck, both matches with a known winner before it even starts...

They've spent 2 years building up Cody finishing the story, they moved him to Raw to keep him out of Roman's way, there's no way they're going to scrap that for the Rock.

I don't know. After everything Seth said, which was a part shoot, since he spoke the truth, then Cody has basically crapped on the heavyweight title and makes it look second rate.

 

[The_Order]

I don't know. After everything Seth said, which was a part shoot, since he spoke the truth, then Cody has basically crapped on the heavyweight title and makes it look second rate.

It is second rate. As much as they're trying to push it as first, it's only existed for a year

 

[Hitman]

It is second rate. As much as they're trying to push it as first, it's only existed for a year

Yeah, but what you don't do is go out and shoot your own title down. If Cody is still going to choose Roman, then there was no point in Seth pleading him. Makes the title look even more useless if they themselves tear it down. Best would have been that Seth promo never took place.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

I do wonder who Seth will face at Wrestlemania now. Guess we find out in the Elimination Chamber. Drew or Sami? Oh, please pardon my excitement. I'd like to see Gunther vs Bron. Time to bring that IC title reign to an end, make a new star. Easy lemon squeeze.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

I know you can't really believe anything you listen to on the hotlines or leaked scoops, but uncle Dave making it out like Rock and Reigns will eventually fight in Saudi Arabia. I guess only time will tell. If The Rock is at WrestleMania, if we're doing the usual thing with outside interference, I'd have The Rock preventing it or even does some sort of run in or distraction. Cody then ends the Reigns of terror.

I don't think needing help matters much. Would you rather he lost again? haha

 

[MichaelNadal]

I think the night 1 main event will be Becky and Rhea now

 

[WarriorRafa]

I think the night 1 main event will be Becky and Rhea now

Sign me up.

I know you can't really believe anything you listen to on the hotlines or leaked scoops, but uncle Dave making it out like Rock and Reigns will eventually fight in Saudi Arabia. I guess only time will tell. If The Rock is at WrestleMania, if we're doing the usual thing with outside interference, I'd have The Rock preventing it or even does some sort of run in or distraction. Cody then ends the Reigns of terror.

I don't think needing help matters much. Would you rather he lost again? haha

Think Rock vs Reigns will be next year. Maybe could have been this year if Cody had finished the story.

 

[The_Order]

Yeah, but what you don't do is go out and shoot your own title down. If Cody is still going to choose Roman, then there was no point in Seth pleading him. Makes the title look even more useless if they themselves tear it down. Best would have been that Seth promo never took place.

He won't shoot it down. I think it's pretty acceptable that he'll go after Roman without damaging the reputation of Seth's title.

The point to Seth's segment was to drive unpredictability and mystery around who will challenge him.

They want to keep fans guessing. We'll see what Cody says on Smackdown. I'm guessing Roman will come out and taunt him/ talk him and his dad down. That way when Cody chooses to fight him, it's more personal and it won't shoot down the world title.

Also, like I said, they already did the Cody Seth fued 2 years ago, and Seth lost all 3 matches. This includes losing to Cody in hell in a cell with Cody having a purple chest from a torn pec.

They're not going to make Cody lose at WM again. If he beats Seth a 4th time it's going to make him look like a weak champion. One other thing to consider, when Seth loses, he'll invoke his rematch clause. They're not going to sell this Cody story for 2 years only to have him drop the title just after finally winning it... so that's 5 losses to Cody...

Tbh, I'm just glad that I'm actually looking forward to tuning in every week, hasn't been that way for me in a very long time.

 

[Subway Tennis]

It must be absolutely awful to be a Lions fan.

That was a good lead they had there.

I hate to say this because I like the Lions and they have had some amazing players, but I think an argument could be made that they are the most disappointing Professional American sporting team franchise ever.

 

[MichaelNadal]

He won't shoot it down. I think it's pretty acceptable that he'll go after Roman without damaging the reputation of Seth's title.

Tbh, I'm just glad that I'm actually looking forward to tuning in every week, hasn't been that way for me in a very long time.

See @nolefam_2024

 

[The_Order]

See @nolefam_2024

Hahaha pathetic troll. I put him on ignore straight away

 

[MichaelNadal]

Hahaha pathetic troll. I put him on ignore straight away

He was saying he stopped watching years back earlier, I was telling him how on fire they are right now

 

[The_Order]

He was saying he stopped watching years back earlier, I was telling him how on fire they are right now

Yeah, they've really improved the product. Was never the biggest HHH fan but I gotta give the dude credit, he's been awesome. This is going back to his time at NXT too

 

[MichaelNadal]

 

[Hitman]

He won't shoot it down. I think it's pretty acceptable that he'll go after Roman without damaging the reputation of Seth's title.

The point to Seth's segment was to drive unpredictability and mystery around who will challenge him.

They want to keep fans guessing. We'll see what Cody says on Smackdown. I'm guessing Roman will come out and taunt him/ talk him and his dad down. That way when Cody chooses to fight him, it's more personal and it won't shoot down the world title.

Also, like I said, they already did the Cody Seth fued 2 years ago, and Seth lost all 3 matches. This includes losing to Cody in hell in a cell with Cody having a purple chest from a torn pec.

They're not going to make Cody lose at WM again. If he beats Seth a 4th time it's going to make him look like a weak champion. One other thing to consider, when Seth loses, he'll invoke his rematch clause. They're not going to sell this Cody story for 2 years only to have him drop the title just after finally winning it... so that's 5 losses to Cody...

Tbh, I'm just glad that I'm actually looking forward to tuning in every week, hasn't been that way for me in a very long time.

Let see. I'd rather Cody finishes the story and ending Reigns reign, but feel there was no need to bring the other title into it.

I get your point though regarding the guessing part. Interesting to see what happens with Rollins now. Obvious now Punk is winning the next Rumble and title in main event of Mania 41. His story is set.

 

[Ronaldo]

Vince at

The Ride or Die, Got Your Back, but are you with me???

 

[The_Order]

Let see. I'd rather Cody finishes the story and ending Reigns reign, but feel there was no need to bring the other title into it.

I get your point though regarding the guessing part. Interesting to see what happens with Rollins now. Obvious now Punk is winning the next Rumble and title in main event of Mania 41. His story is set.

Another thing I thought of, its actually a smart move for them to have Seth come out and cut that promo.

Rumble was a couple days before Raw. They were heavily pushing Rollins v Punk and now had to change plans. With such short notice it actually bought them some time to think about plan b.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Bron Breakker to give Gunther a screwdriver.

 

[Hitman]

Another thing I thought of, its actually a smart move for them to have Seth come out and cut that promo.

Rumble was a couple days before Raw. They were heavily pushing Rollins v Punk and now had to change plans. With such short notice it actually bought them some time to think about plan b.

Looks like it will be Rock v Reigns, and Rollins v Cody.

 

[The_Order]

Looks like it will be Rock v Reigns, and Rollins v Cody.

Yeah, apparently The Rock has been pushing hard for it... arrogant flog needs to insert himself once again...

One of the dumbest things they could have done... It just doesn't make sense for Cody to come out and flat out say, yeah Roman I want your title, but I'm going to step aside for WrestleMania.

They're just ****ting on their own product. Reigns pretty much made Rollins title sound irrelevant too...

So that segment accomplished two things made Cody look **** and made Rollins look ****. The fact that its HEAVILY ratioed says it all... 69k likes 250k dislikes...

WM40 is going to suck now for the reasons I've already mentioned.

 

[Apun94]

How many of you are going to be pulling double duty and watching both back to back?

It's going to be a long night for me....

IT WAS SUCH A HORRIBLE ROYAL RUMBLE THIS YEAR MANNN. I was so disappointed

 

[Poisoned Slice]

If it all goes according to how it looks at the moment, then good call, Hitman.

Maybe this gets what they always wanted at the beginning. Roman as the top face after stomping a mudhole in Rock. Ah, wrestling.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Dwayne the rock Hogan

 

[The_Order]

If it all goes according to how it looks at the moment, then good call, Hitman.

Maybe this gets what they always wanted at the beginning. Roman as the top face after stomping a mudhole in Rock. Ah, wrestling.

Hitman sure did nail it.

I gotta admit, I didn't see this one coming. Hitman pretty much banked on WWE booking being like it was 10 years ago whereas I banked on them doing the right thing based on Vince not running things anymore and how well HHH has built it...

That segment though... damn that is quite possibly the worst segment I've seen relatively speaking. They made the World title, Seth and Cody look like a joke.

I hope Phily boos the **** out of that Rock v Roman match... it's gonna stink anyway.

 

[Hitman]

Yeah, apparently The Rock has been pushing hard for it... arrogant flog needs to insert himself once again...

One of the dumbest things they could have done... It just doesn't make sense for Cody to come out and flat out say, yeah Roman I want your title, but I'm going to step aside for WrestleMania.

They're just ****ting on their own product. Reigns pretty much made Rollins title sound irrelevant too...

So that segment accomplished two things made Cody look **** and made Rollins look ****. The fact that its HEAVILY ratioed says it all... 69k likes 250k dislikes...

WM40 is going to suck now for the reasons I've already mentioned.

Yeah, that segment just had me shaking me head. Not good heading into what should be the biggest wrestlemania of all time.

 

[Hitman]

If it all goes according to how it looks at the moment, then good call, Hitman.

Maybe this gets what they always wanted at the beginning. Roman as the top face after stomping a mudhole in Rock. Ah, wrestling.

Hitman sure did nail it.

I gotta admit, I didn't see this one coming. Hitman pretty much banked on WWE booking being like it was 10 years ago whereas I banked on them doing the right thing based on Vince not running things anymore and how well HHH has built it...

That segment though... damn that is quite possibly the worst segment I've seen relatively speaking. They made the World title, Seth and Cody look like a joke.

I hope Phily boos the **** out of that Rock v Roman match... it's gonna stink anyway.

I really wish I was completely off the mark on this one, but I just had that feeling.

As far as Philly goes, that is place of hardcore, they will make their voices heard in that event, no question.

What was HHH thinking?! Reigns just destroyed Rollins and that belt also.

 

[The_Order]

I really wish I was completely off the mark on this one, but I just had that feeling.

As far as Philly goes, that is place of hardcore, they will make their voices heard in that event, no question.

What was HHH thinking?! Reigns just destroyed Rollins and that belt also.

Funnily enough, iinm, it was at the 2015 Royal Rumble in Philly when Roman won and the Rock came out and the crowd booed the **** out of them....

Something tells me, that might just happen again...

EDIT: Just had another look at THAT segment WWE posted on YT... 84k likes - 381k dislikes lmfao it's being ratioed to hell

EDIT2: Sources have confirmed, The Rock is trying hard to push himself AS THE WINNER OF THE MATCH! Can you believe this? Oh and it is the most disliked YT video in the history of WWE's channel... damn...

 

[MichaelNadal]

Im so torn lol, but damn, poor Cody man

 

[Hitman]

Funnily enough, iinm, it was at the 2015 Royal Rumble in Philly when Roman won and the Rock came out and the crowd booed the **** out of them....

Something tells me, that might just happen again...

EDIT: Just had another look at THAT segment WWE posted on YT... 84k likes - 381k dislikes lmfao it's being ratioed to hell

EDIT2: Sources have confirmed, The Rock is trying hard to push himself AS THE WINNER OF THE MATCH! Can you believe this? Oh and it is the most disliked YT video in the history of WWE's channel... damn...

Being on the board of directors at TKO has gotten to Rock's head, so now he is trying to win that match? So not only bury Cody, but Roman and virtually everyone else, by being the guy to end the reign? I love the Rock, but this is not the time and place to make such a power move.

He should have just made himself the special guest referee to make sure no one interfered. Then had his one on one post Mania.

Regarding rumble 2015, Rock was super annoyed that day, walked out and did not even talk to Vince before he left the building.

 

[The_Order]

Being on the board of directors at TKO has gotten to Rock's head, so now he is trying to win that match? So not only bury Cody, but Roman and virtually everyone else, by being the guy to end the reign? I love the Rock, but this is not the time and place to make such a power move.

He should have just made himself the special guest referee to make sure no one interfered. Then had his one on one post Mania.

Regarding rumble 2015, Rock was super annoyed that day, walked out and did not even talk to Vince before he left the building.

I think fame and fear of becoming irrelevant has gone to his head. He tried to insert himself in the DCEU as well and that failed hard too.

He can't stand being booed, even when he did the match with Hogan he was pissed the crowd turned on him. He's in for a rude awakening come WM.

Word is he pitched it as a way to "save WrestleMania"... and yep he wants to win it now too...

That can't sit well with the locker room...

That Cody Punk promo has taken on a whole new life now too... people are referencing it now.

CM Punk: "Let me give you the full CM Punk WM experience" and "A much bigger star comes along and takes it all away from you"
Cody: "I'm more CM Punk than than you"

 

[Hitman]

I think fame and fear of becoming irrelevant has gone to his head. He tried to insert himself in the DCEU as well and that failed hard too.

He can't stand being booed, even when he did the match with Hogan he was pissed the crowd turned on him. He's in for a rude awakening come WM.

Word is he pitched it as a way to "save WrestleMania"... and yep he wants to win it now too...

That can't sit well with the locker room...

That Cody Punk promo has taken on a whole new life now too... people are referencing it now.

CM Punk: "Let me give you the full CM Punk WM experience" and "A much bigger star comes along and takes it all away from you"
Cody: "I'm more CM Punk than than you"

And a call back to what Punk said in 2011

The fact that Dwayne is in the main event at WrestleMania next year and I'm not makes me sick!

Black Adam was him centering the DCEU around him as the main character.


We had the perfect Wrestlemania Night 2 main event, it didn't need to be touched, that was the match everyone wanted for a full year. Oh well. Can Rock even go 25 to 30 minutes, because Roman is going to have to carry him.

 

[The_Order]

And a call back to what Punk said in 2011

The fact that Dwayne is in the main event at WrestleMania next year and I'm not makes me sick!

Black Adam was him centering the DCEU around him as the main character.


We had the perfect Wrestlemania Night 2 main event, it didn't need to be touched, that was the match everyone wanted for a full year. Oh well. Can Rock even go 25 to 30 minutes, because Roman is going to have to carry him.

I seriously doubt he can go for 20+ mins...

11 years ago the match with Cena went 23 mins and he got injured about 10 mins in. Reigns is not going to be able to carry him as well as Cena did imo. Coupled with the fact he's in his 50's now and hasn't wrestled a proper match since WM29... it's going to stink.

This isn't on HHH btw, Rock being on the TKO board of directors has the backing of his fellow board members... it's above HHH's pay grade.

I still can't get over his "save wrestlemania" bs... save it from what? It's already sold out... it doesn't need any saving. It basically ****s on the entire product, not just Cody. Why have him win the Royal Rumble? It's even made that look irrelevant now too.

Ahh well... can't change anything now... like all things in life, control the controllables.

 

[Hitman]

I seriously doubt he can go for 20+ mins...

11 years ago the match with Cena went 23 mins and he got injured about 10 mins in. Reigns is not going to be able to carry him as well as Cena did imo. Coupled with the fact he's in his 50's now and hasn't wrestled a proper match since WM29... it's going to stink.

This isn't on HHH btw, Rock being on the TKO board of directors has the backing of his fellow board members... it's above HHH's pay grade.

I still can't get over his "save wrestlemania" bs... save it from what? It's already sold out... it doesn't need any saving. It basically ****s on the entire product, not just Cody. Why have him win the Royal Rumble? It's even made that look irrelevant now too.

Ahh well... can't change anything now... like all things in life, control the controllables.

Rock's going to have his manager represent his ideas in creative from this point on it seems. He looks to be heavily involved.

Rumors are they may unify the titles at Summer Slam, and that is how Cody finishes the story, not sure if that is a good idea at all. But the idea I am hearing is that they are saying Cody will bring the workhorse style and merge it with the history, to make the best of both belts into one. I don't know about that to be honest. But I think HHH has already put something like that on the table.

 

[Hitman]

@The_Order Didn't Cena win the Rumble in 08 and then have his shot in February instead?

Maybe Cody by virtue of winning the Rumble can now challenge at any time also? And he calls his shot for Summer Slam, after winning the WHC from Rollins.

 

[The_Order]

Rock's going to have his manager represent his ideas in creative from this point on it seems. He looks to be heavily involved.

Rumors are they may unify the titles at Summer Slam, and that is how Cody finishes the story, not sure if that is a good idea at all. But the idea I am hearing is that they are saying Cody will bring the workhorse style and merge it with the history, to make the best of both belts into one. I don't know about that to be honest. But I think HHH has already put something like that on the table.

Just can't do that at Summerslam imo...

If they want to unify the belts, the ONLY way I can see them saving WM40 from here is,

Cody beats Rollins night 1.
Reigns beats Rock night 1.

Cody beats Reigns night 2.

 

[The_Order]

@The_Order Didn't Cena win the Rumble in 08 and then have his shot in February instead?

Maybe Cody by virtue of winning the Rumble can now challenge at any time also? And he calls his shot for Summer Slam, after winning the WHC from Rollins.

So how does he use his RR shot at Summerslam if he's using it to face Rollins?

They heavily pushed that winning the Royal Rumble = Main Event of WM. That was heavily pushed this year.

As for Cena 2008... lol yeah that was so HHH could weasel his way into the main event by winning EC. Politics existed back then too...

EDIT: YT vid is now approaching half a million dislikes less than 24 hours after being uploaded...

 

[MichaelNadal]

The Rock better not DARE win against Roman.

 

[Hitman]

So how does he use his RR shot at Summerslam if he's using it to face Rollins?

They heavily pushed that winning the Royal Rumble = Main Event of WM. That was heavily pushed this year.

As for Cena 2008... lol yeah that was so HHH could weasel his way into the main event by winning EC. Politics existed back then too...

EDIT: YT vid is now approaching half a million dislikes less than 24 hours after being uploaded...

Maybe because Rollins is challenging Rhodes himself, they can manipulate that Cody actually didn't challenge anyone, he in fact accepted Rollins challenge to fight him at Mania.

Yeah, that video dislike will only get worse now.

 

[aman92]

#JusticeforCody
#DieRockyDie

 

[Ronaldo]

Battle of The Part-time Wrestlers

 

[The_Order]

Damn... "Rocky sucks" chants on RAW...

Rollins acknowledges them - "I'll be honest, I didn't think I was gonna hear that one"

Michael Cole - "Is it 1996 again?"

This tells me that something is changing again here... no way do the talent and commentators acknowledge this stuff without being told to...

 

[nolefam_2024]

Damn... "Rocky sucks" chants on RAW...

Rollins acknowledges them - "I'll be honest, I didn't think I was gonna hear that one"

Michael Cole - "Is it 1996 again?"

This tells me that something is changing again here... no way do the talent and commentators acknowledge this stuff without being told to...

Oh wow

WWE might be salvaged after all. Entire media runs on nostalgia from the beginning of SM days. Comic book shows and movies are now ruined by over nostalgic moments and WWE too.
Finally if someone is able to kill the whole nostalgia business it would be amazing for the future.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Idk how you can do heel Rock without turning Roman face which is not a great idea.....

 

[The_Order]

Idk how you can do heel Rock without turning Roman face which is not a great idea.....

The way they've setup the whole thing isn't a great idea let's be honest.

The Rock has politicked his way into the main event and snatched it away from Cody. This isn't a heel turn move, it was a move so he can take the spotlight for himself and cash in his $30mill in stock pay day whilst still being loved by the fans...

He didn't expect the backlash, he thought the fans would just lap it all up and get excited for him.

As much as I knew this would draw heat, hearing the Rocky sucks chants loud and clear in St Louis is next level. Never would have thought that would happen in 2024. Tells me that if they don't make Cody beat Reigns at WM40, Philly will completely hijack Rock v Roman... you wouldn't want to promote it as one of the biggest matches of all time and have the crowd destroy it...

I can seriously imagine the entire front 10 rows holding up giant cardboard cutouts of Cody's face while they chant Rocky sucks for the entire match. Either that or the crowd might even walk out and boycott it. You don't mess with the crowd in Philly.

If you think that's crazy, The Rock's daughter is allegedly receiving death threats over this... some people take things way too far...