Who is not happy that Nadal won the US open this year?

captainbryce

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Why would anyone be upset that a particular player won a tournament? I can understand being upset of your favorite player lost; but not that someone else won. I’m the biggest Roger Federer fan and I really hope that he wins another major or two and goes down as the GOAT. Having said that Nadal and Djokovic are both outstanding champions who I am happy for when they win, even if they beat my favorite player. Before Federer, Andre Agassi was my favorite player and I’d always root for him to win. But when Federer beat him, I was still happy for Federer.
 

UnderratedSlam

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Why would anyone be upset that a particular player won a tournament? I can understand being upset of your favorite player lost; but not that someone else won. I’m the biggest Roger Federer fan and I really hope that he wins another major or two and goes down as the GOAT. Having said that Nadal and Djokovic are both outstanding champions who I am happy for when they win, even if they beat my favorite player. Before Federer, Andre Agassi was my favorite player and I’d always root for him to win. But when Federer beat him, I was still happy for Federer.
Either you´re lying, exaggerating, or you´re the most mentally balanced tennis fan in the world.
 
First paragraph is science fiction, unless your name happens to be Novak Djokovic.

Second paragraph, Nadal's defensive backhand and backhand passing shot are among the best in the man's game (in this baseline era, pretty much all successful lefties have a good backhand).

Third paragraph, when a righty hits a cross court FH, it actually goes to Nadal's backhand side, as anyone who has watched even a single Nadal game can see.

Thus, obvious troll is obvious.
1) totally meaningless.

2) You will get a weak slice once Nadal is on the run to hit his backhand most of the time, go watch the tapes.

3) that was not what I said, read my post again. I said right handed players hit cross court from backhand side to Nadal’s forehand.


So all these Nadal trolls have subpar comprehension skill.
 

aldeayeah

Hall of Fame
2) You will get a weak slice once Nadal is on the run to hit his backhand most of the time, go watch the tapes.
Wrong. In a neutral rally Nadal covers his backhand side really well (mainly because he's always looking for a chance to hit a run around forehand.)
To get that weak BH reply you're talking about, first you need to pull him wide to the FH side to get him out of position. You need a 1-2 punch.
And the "2" needs good pace and placement, otherwise you're setting yourself up for a BH passing shot (Federer knows this well).
3) that was not what I said, read my post again. I said right handed players hit cross court from backhand side to Nadal’s forehand.
I went back and read your post, and you said nothing about the backhand side.
When you say "a cross court forehand" everyone assumes you're talking about a CC FH stroke hit from the deuce side of the court.
The shot you're actually talking about (a CC FH stroke from the ad side), is what people call that an "inside out" forehand.
It's not my fault you won't, or can't explain yourself better.
So all these Nadal trolls have subpar comprehension skill.
Aw dear, how much more obvious can you get?
I mean, it was clear from the point that you started talking about one of the top 2 baseliners of the current era as if he was some club player...
 
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tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Nadal missed 2 US Open in his prime (2012 and 2014).
Maybe the joke is Federer winning 6 AO or Djokovic winning 5 Wimbledon but of course you are not biased.
:eek::oops::rolleyes:o_O:censored:
You what, mate?

Federer easily in the top 2/3 best hard courters of all time with 6 AO is a joke? Man you must be so much fun at parties. Need to recognize a joke when you see one.
And Djokovic with 5 Wimbledons would be a shocker in the 90s, not now.

Nadal with 4 US Opens is pretty pathetic but then you have to consider his draws and the fact that he only had 3 decent/good wins at the US Opens in the 4 editions that he won. If you really dig deeper though that's only 1 win given that Djokovic in 2010 was pretty crap and Del Potro was on his last legs in 2017 after a brutal draw and has had no backhand in 5+ years. What you're left with is 2013 USO and beating Djokovic after a 4h+ match vs Wawrinka in the SF while Nadal made his way through a brutal draw filled with Youzhnys of the world.
 

MichaelNadal

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You what, mate?

Federer easily in the top 2/3 best hard courters of all time with 6 AO is a joke? Man you must be so much fun at parties. Need to recognize a joke when you see one.
And Djokovic with 5 Wimbledons would be a shocker in the 90s, not now.

Nadal with 4 US Opens is pretty pathetic but then you have to consider his draws and the fact that he only had 3 decent/good wins at the US Opens in the 4 editions that he won. If you really dig deeper though that's only 1 win given that Djokovic in 2010 was pretty crap and Del Potro was on his last legs in 2017 after a brutal draw and has had no backhand in 5+ years. What you're left with is 2013 USO and beating Djokovic after a 4h+ match vs Wawrinka in the SF while Nadal made his way through a brutal draw filled with Youzhnys of the world.
Lol every time Nadal won the US Open, he was clearly one of the best 2-3 HC's in the world heading into the tournament. Just stop. His form was always going to win the years he won. Believe it or not, its VERY hard to beat Nadal..... even on HC.




Try opening your eyes and giving credit where it's due. You go out there and beat Djokovic on slow HC in a slam final in 4 sets.... TWICE.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Lol every time Nadal won the US Open, he was clearly one of the best 2-3 HC's in the world heading into the tournament. Just stop. His form was always going to win the years he won. Believe it or not, its VERY hard to beat Nadal..... even on HC.




Try opening your eyes and giving credit where it's due. You go out there and beat Djokovic on slow HC in a slam final in 4 sets.... TWICE.
Nadal's great form magically coicided with Federer's/Djokovic's crap form. As if beating 2010 USO Djokovic was so damn tough, Federer tanked 2 sets and he still got to match points while being up and down and past his prime. Beating that Fed was actually Djokovic's first top 10 win of the season.

And we all know how Djokovic performed in the Slams against Federer/Nadal/Murray/Wawrinka in 2011 FO and 2012-2014, he actually lost more watches than he won. Outside of that Nadal only beat the Youzhnys and Rublevs of the world, so impressive.

I honestly believe that Nadal winning the US Open 4 times in an utter joke but hey I'll give you this - he should've won more than 1 AO for sure. He didn't because the competition at the AO is usually a million times better than at the USO or any other Slam. That's technically the toughest Slam to win IMO when you consider the fact that everyone's fresh and it's a neutral surface.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Nadal's great form magically coicided with Federer's/Djokovic's crap form. As if beating 2010 USO Djokovic was so damn tough, Federer tanked 2 sets and he still got to match points while being up and down and past his prime. Beating that Fed was actually Djokovic's first top 10 win of the season.

And we all know how Djokovic performed in the Slams against Federer/Nadal/Murray/Wawrinka in 2011 FO and 2012-2014, he actually lost more watches than he won. Outside of that Nadal only beat the Youzhnys and Rublevs of the world, so impressive.

I honestly believe that Nadal winning the US Open 4 times in an utter joke but hey I'll give you this - he should've won more than 1 AO for sure. He didn't because the competition at the AO is usually a million times better than at the USO or any other Slam. That's technically the toughest Slam to win IMO when you consider the fact that everyone's fresh and it's a neutral surface.
Lol it's not Nadal's fault that Federer hasn't won the US Open in 11 years :D Djokovic played great in the 2010 semis and final. Nadal was just on point :p
 
Nope, I don't comment on "era strength". It was Ultron zzzz boring, because Ultron IS zzzzz boring and no one wants to see him win matches, which is why anyone that beats him is gloriously cheered :D Im sorry that Nadal is so entertaining :p
Yeah you do. When Djokovic wins you don't hold back. Seen it in 2015-16, seen it when he got back to form in the last year... Please.

His fans don't want him to win matches either? That's some interesting phenomenon.

Shame you can be THAT full of yourself sometimes...
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Yeah you do. When Djokovic wins you don't hold back. Seen it in 2015-16, seen it after this year's AO... Please.

His fans don't want him to win matches either? That's some interesting phenomenon.

Shame you can be THAT full of yourself sometimes...
Believe it or not, I don't dislike Djokovic that much. Especially when he's 3 slams behind ;) it's not 2011 anymore bro
 

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
I would say that the results show that Nadal is at least as versatile as the other two, but his clay dominance skews his results because of the dominance of HC. I say that because his record on his weakest surface, grass, has to be as impressive as the record of the other two on clay.

This is going purely on results, not the look of his game.

The idea that style is now more homogenized today cuts both ways. Fed's style is absolutely made for grass, so I would assume he would have been dominant on grass in any era, but I have to wonder if he'd even have one RG playing in the 90s. I think Novak would be lucky to have more than a couple majors on grass and probably also one at RG in the 90s. And Nadal obviously would have been less successful off clay in the 90s. This era, the rackets and strings, have benefited all of the Big 3. We think the top guys are more versatile than they are because of the modern game.
You're wrong, Nadal is lagging behind his two top rivals in the versatility, otherwise he would already have a WTF title. Furthermore, only this year he managed to defend the title outside clay, something that Fed and Djoker managed outside of their best surfaces several times.
 
Believe it or not, I don't dislike Djokovic that much. Especially when he's 3 slams behind ;) it's not 2011 anymore bro
So? Slam gap used to be much bigger in the past, including the famous 2011. All you're showing now is even you care about the numbers stuff by trying to rub it in. A couple of more Slams for Ralph and you might start sounding like a Maestronian. Dangerous territory.

Believe it or not, I don't care how much you dislike Djokovic. The point was you painted beating "world #13 Berrettini" as something... Epic I guess. While back when Djokovic was beating the likes of Mury and older Fed (you know, the same gramps that Rafa looks clueless against these days), that was weak era and the Tour being asleep.

Nadal is entertaining. I have been rooting for him in a lot of matches myself since he came back to form in 2017. And you are more chill than most in this place. But on the matter I brought up now, you are not showing consistency at all. Surely you should be able to see that...
 

ChrisRF

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I would crush you in MK on N64. When I have Yoshi under the sticks, I can not be beat. One of these days I will enter a tourney and prove this to the world.
If you are really that good, you should send your times to this page and get a place in the world ranking:


Even if you were joking, you could still do it, because everyone who loves this game is welcome to submit his times there.
 
If you are really that good, you should send your times to this page and get a place in the world ranking:


Even if you were joking, you could still do it, because everyone who loves this game is welcome to submit his times there.
Nice, but I am not quite as fast as those times, I am very strategic at the weapons. Makes me impossible to pass no matter what I have.

Maybe one day I will enter a tourney and face off against @MichaelNadal
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
Nice, but I am not quite as fast as those times, I am very strategic at the weapons. Makes me impossible to pass no matter what I have.

Maybe one day I will enter a tourney and face off against @MichaelNadal
Yes, this page is mainly about Time Trial. But some of the best players in this world ranking list have a yearly meeting where they play all modes, including Grand Prix, Versus and Battle. I know this because my best friend in real life always participates there.
 
Yes, this page is mainly about Time Trial. But some of the best players in this world ranking list have a yearly meeting where they play all modes, including Grand Prix, Versus and Battle. I know this because my best friend in real life always participates there.
Where is it?
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
Where is it?
Always in Europe, because many top players are from Europe, but still also some of the best Americans were there (they of course not every year).

The first years it was in Germany, then one year in Croatia, and now this year it was in the Netherlands in a professional "E-Sports-Arena" for the first time. Most likely it will stay there for next year and maybe longer.

The competitions go over 4 days with another day for arriving and leaving. So everything is usually from Tuesday to Sunday. And they play for fun and honor, not for money (apart from some spontaneous bets between some players for like 10-20 Euro or so). It’s a very uncomplicated and friendly atmosphere and anyone would also be allowed to be present for only one day if he wants to play just one mode.

It’s always in the summer (mostly July), but by the way never during 2nd week of Wimbledon, because there are quite a few tennis fans involved, including my friend who sometimes helps with the organisation and is a big Federer fan as well.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
You're wrong, Nadal is lagging behind his two top rivals in the versatility, otherwise he would already have a WTF title. Furthermore, only this year he managed to defend the title outside clay, something that Fed and Djoker managed outside of their best surfaces several times.
When people have such strong opinions about things that are not factual it is no use having a discussion.
 

DSH

Hall of Fame
You what, mate?

Federer easily in the top 2/3 best hard courters of all time with 6 AO is a joke? Man you must be so much fun at parties. Need to recognize a joke when you see one.
And Djokovic with 5 Wimbledons would be a shocker in the 90s, not now.

Nadal with 4 US Opens is pretty pathetic but then you have to consider his draws and the fact that he only had 3 decent/good wins at the US Opens in the 4 editions that he won. If you really dig deeper though that's only 1 win given that Djokovic in 2010 was pretty crap and Del Potro was on his last legs in 2017 after a brutal draw and has had no backhand in 5+ years. What you're left with is 2013 USO and beating Djokovic after a 4h+ match vs Wawrinka in the SF while Nadal made his way through a brutal draw filled with Youzhnys of the world.
(n)
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
Nadal's great form magically coicided with Federer's/Djokovic's crap form. As if beating 2010 USO Djokovic was so damn tough, Federer tanked 2 sets and he still got to match points while being up and down and past his prime. Beating that Fed was actually Djokovic's first top 10 win of the season.

And we all know how Djokovic performed in the Slams against Federer/Nadal/Murray/Wawrinka in 2011 FO and 2012-2014, he actually lost more watches than he won. Outside of that Nadal only beat the Youzhnys and Rublevs of the world, so impressive.

I honestly believe that Nadal winning the US Open 4 times in an utter joke but hey I'll give you this - he should've won more than 1 AO for sure. He didn't because the competition at the AO is usually a million times better than at the USO or any other Slam. That's technically the toughest Slam to win IMO when you consider the fact that everyone's fresh and it's a neutral surface.
A man wins 4 USOs and someone thinks it´s pure luck...

Damn.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
You just think you're a better person than him :)
No, just a better person than I used to be and the happiness it's brought me shows ;) #SavageJesus

If you are really that good, you should send your times to this page and get a place in the world ranking:


Even if you were joking, you could still do it, because everyone who loves this game is welcome to submit his times there.
Oooh lemme find out lol. Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Super Smash Bros and Mario 64 are all GOATY and timeless to this day.

Nadal was good enough to win the 2019 USO. He's an all time great. Deal with it, people.
A man wins 4 USOs and someone thinks it´s pure luck...

Damn.


Slay.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
So? Slam gap used to be much bigger in the past, including the famous 2011. All you're showing now is even you care about the numbers stuff by trying to rub it in. A couple of more Slams for Ralph and you might start sounding like a Maestronian. Dangerous territory.

Believe it or not, I don't care how much you dislike Djokovic. The point was you painted beating "world #13 Berrettini" as something... Epic I guess. While back when Djokovic was beating the likes of Mury and older Fed (you know, the same gramps that Rafa looks clueless against these days), that was weak era and the Tour being asleep.

Nadal is entertaining. I have been rooting for him in a lot of matches myself since he came back to form in 2017. And you are more chill than most in this place. But on the matter I brought up now, you are not showing consistency at all. Surely you should be able to see that...
Exactly .

During 2014 to 2016 - when djoker used to beat Prime Murray ,fed , Stan ,Cilic ,Rafa the tour was weak and boring . Also when Stan produced 3 great slam wins .and Andy won Wimby, Olympics . Fed being consistent at slams and masters . Cilic Nishi Beatin Fedovic at slams. That was weak era.

Since 2017-19 - Rafa is beating thiem, Anderson , Medvedev at slams ,and gets between by Djoker and grand pa Fed at slams , the wins are Epic :love: .

I am glad other Nadal fans are not hypocrites . They are better .
 

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
When people have such strong opinions about things that are not factual it is no use having a discussion.
LOL :laughing: Obviously, you're pro-Nadal biased. So facts - of the men's tennis players who won at least 6 GS titles in the Open Era, only Nadal and Wilander doesn't managed to win the WTF. Fedex won the WTF six times, of which four times in the indoor environment, Djoker five times. Profit of the title at the WTF there is none Mission Impossible, in short Nadal is weaker in the indoor environment and lags behind his top opponents in universality, which everyone unbiased will recognize.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
LOL :laughing: Obviously, you're pro-Nadal biased. So facts - of the men's tennis players who won at least 6 GS titles in the Open Era, only Nadal and Wilander doesn't managed to win the WTF. Fedex won the WTF six times, of which four times in the indoor environment, Djoker five times. Profit of the title at the WTF there is none Mission Impossible, in short Nadal is weaker in the indoor environment and lags behind his top opponents in universality, which everyone unbiased will recognize.
I'm not pro-Nadal. I've never been pro-Nadal. I'm a Fed fan. I like Nadal a bit better than Djokovic for watching, but I hate Nadal's slow play.

If I were biased I would rate the WTF very highly, since my favorite player has won it 6 times. You're making the right argument to the wrong guy.
 
I went back and read your post, and you said nothing about the backhand side.
When you say "a cross court forehand" everyone assumes you're talking about a CC FH stroke hit from the deuce side of the court.
Boy, I said:”You have stupid young right handed players keep going to nadal’s forehand by cross court it is as if they don’t know how to hit down the line back hand.”

Can you read it again, does it say/imply from forehand cross court to Nadal’s backhand? it obviously implies right hand players’ backhand cross court to Nadal’s forehand! Learn to read first before you open your mouth!

No point in arguing with you on other points since you cannot read or watch the game.
 
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