Who is stronger peak Wawrinka or peak Roddick?

[zill]

Assuming at their peaks. One has one of the strongest single backhands of all time the other one of the strongest serves. Who is overall (physically) stronger though??

 

[Noletheking]

Wawa. He defeated 2 goat candidates to win his slams while Rodick defeated juan carlos ferrero and lucked out in semi against Nalbandian.

 

[zill]

Wawa. He defeated 2 goat candidates to win his slams while Rodick defeated juan carlos febrero and lucked out in semi against Nalbandian.

I’m not talking about who is the better player. Just who is stronger overall.

 

[HazBeen18]

Stan looks like a professional brick-layer who decided to play tennis instead. He's a beast. Roddick looks like a typical American jock who probably played some baseball in his youth, so has a strong right arm.

 

[tenisdecente]

Stan may look like a bricklayer but Stifler gets laid by a model

Stifler: 1, Stan: 0

LMAO, what about Stan banging a girl younger than him from WTA?

Wawa > Roddick in their respective peaks

 

[Autodidactic player]

If by "peak" we mean the best a player can play; Wawrinka may be the best "peak" player ever. When he was on, Wawrinka was untouchable. Unfortunately, Wawrinka's peaks came in points and sometimes games or sets but almost never for an entire tournament never mind for an entire season.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Roddick on grass and medium/fast HC. Stan on slow HC and clay. Ergo, Stan AO and RG, ARod Wim and USO, YEC depends on conditions.

 

[Deon Sanders]

Even Roddick has a better h2h against Roger than Stan the not so Man

And a better h2h versus Nole and Ned

Stan just peaked at weakest era

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Physical strength is probably similar between the two. Roddick marginally more explosive.

 

[ForehandRF]

Roddick on grass and medium/fast HC. Stan on slow HC and clay. Ergo, Stan AO and RG, ARod Wim and USO, YEC depends on conditions.

In terms of level, what do you think about Roddick's USO 2007 compared to Stan's USO 2016 ?

 

[Bender]

LMAO, what about Stan banging a girl younger than him from WTA?

Wawa > Roddick in their respective peaks

younger ≠ hotter

 

[Pheasant]

Roddick on grass and medium/fast HC. Stan on slow HC and clay. Ergo, Stan AO and RG, ARod Wim and USO, YEC depends on conditions.

I think that Roddick is close to Stan on hard courts. Roddick won a Master's in Miami in 2010. The only set that he dropped was to Peak Nadal along the way. Of course, Stan has two hard court slams. So your analysis is a good one. However, does peak Stan win a slam from 2004-2009 with Fed in the way. That's tough to say.

This one is so tough. Stan played Peak Djokovic quite tough. On the other hand, Stan matches up horribly against Fed away from clay. Either way, I think that you answer is the best one yet. I cannot dispute anything that you stated. Nice post, amigo.

 

[Mainad]

Wawrinka's peak resulted in 3 Slams whilst Roddick's only netted him 1 so have to go with Stan here.

 

[abmk]

Stan on slow HC and clay
Roddick on medium-fast to fast HC and grass

 

[Towny]

Grass: Roddick
Hard court and clay: Wawrinka

 

[Phoenix1983]

Wawrinka's peak resulted in 3 Slams whilst Roddick's only netted him 1 so have to go with Stan here.

I agree - although to an extent it’s about matchups, and specifically Stan vs Novak Djokovic and Federer. If Stan had peaked in the Fed era rather than the Novak Djokovic era, he may have only won 1 slam also.

 

[Red Rick]

Roddick it's not even close.



FITE ME

 

[MeatTornado]

I think Stan has the higher peak, but if they played head to head, Roddick wins everywhere but clay.

 

[Red Rick]

Wawrinka would have such matchup issues with peak Roddick lol.

 

[beard]

Not so good try to buff poor poor RodDick
Wawa is better both in accomplishments and peak level...

 

[Bukmeikara]

I think Stan has the higher peak, but if they played head to head, Roddick wins everywhere but clay.

Roddick was my favorite. I dont share the idea that Wawrinka is overal the better player. He got his chances, he took them or more so earned them. This said, Wawrinka would win plenty of matches against Andy out of clay. For example, he completely destroyed him at AO 11, long before Norman got into the picture.

I believe that they are in a similar tier of overal level but one did win more than the other.

And stop with this "peak" level nonsence. Using this logic, Wawrinka is unbeatble when playing at his best ...

 

[Lew II]

Slam titles adjusted by difficulty:

Wawrinka 4.76
Roddick 0.94

https://www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com/record?recordId=GrandSlamTitlesDifficultyAdjusted

 

[Red Rick]

Slam titles adjusted by difficulty:

Wawrinka 4.76
Roddick 0.94

https://www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com/record?recordId=GrandSlamTitlesDifficultyAdjusted

H2H vs Federer

Roddick 3-21
Wawrinka 3-22

QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM

 

[tennis_pro]

Grass - Roddick
Clay - Wawrinka
HC - toss-up

 

[Meles]

Roddick on grass and medium/fast HC. Stan on slow HC and clay. Ergo, Stan AO and RG, ARod Wim and USO, YEC depends on conditions.

This pretty much nails the issue, but overall peak Wawrinka a much higherer peak. Wawrinka's return not the best, but Roddick very marginal player on return and of course not even close in rallies with the Big 4 for the most part. I liked early Roddick before Poly strings saturated the tour and forced him to retool his forehand. Just too slow to compete with the best. Wawrinka can take out the best of all time from the ground. Pushdick might not be in the top 1000 all time for his baseline game (see his return stats for a measure of this).... 20.3% return games won which is #317 since 1991.

 

[Meles]

Slam titles adjusted by difficulty:

Wawrinka 4.76
Roddick 0.94

https://www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com/record?recordId=GrandSlamTitlesDifficultyAdjusted

LOL. Fedal in dead heat. Wawrinka's three is five.

 

[lud]

Wawrinka,easily.
However, consistency - Rod >> Waw.

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

Wawi except for that one day back in 2009 at Wimbledon.

 

[Druss]

On grass there is no way Wawa is beating A-Rod. On clay it's a whitewash for the Swiss. On HC I'll give it to Stanimal 60/40.

 

[KINGROGER]

Stan on slow HC and clay
Roddick on medium-fast to fast HC and grass

This. Peak for peak Roddick all day at W/USO, Stan at the other two.

 

[beard]

Or, 3>1, no?

 

[BGod]

I take Roddick 03-05 over Wawrinka 14-16.

I mean, common now. Roddick made 6 SF, 3 F and won 1 but was blocked by Federer in 2 finals and semi. He also made 5 Masters Finals winning 3. So that second part blows away Stan.

 

[Red Rick]

I take Roddick 03-05 over Wawrinka 14-16.

I mean, common now. Roddick made 6 SF, 3 F and won 1 but was blocked by Federer in 2 finals and semi. He also made 5 Masters Finals winning 3. So that second part blows away Stan.

Roddick had a better H2H vs all of Nadal, Djokovic and Federer, despite being older than the former 2

 

[upchuck]

Wawrinka, fairly easily.

 

[BGod]

Better H2H vs all of Nadal, Djokovic and Federer, despite being older than the former 2

Better H2H? Roddick was 3-7 against Nadal and 5-4 against Novak. Wawrinka was 3-17 and 5-19.........

 

[Red Rick]

Better H2H? Roddick was 3-7 against Nadal and 5-4 against Novak. Wawrinka was 3-17 and 5-19.........

I was talking about Roddick.

Sometimes I even confuse myself.

 

[Sysyphus]

LOL, whole thread answering something else than what OP asks, 2 funny

 

[Sport]

H2H vs Federer

Roddick 3-21
Wawrinka 3-22

QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM

So you are penalizing Wawrinka because he has played one more match against Federer. What makes you think Roddick would have defeated Federer had he faced him in another match?

H2H vs Federer
Roddick 3-21
Wawrinka 3-22

 

[Sport]

Wawrinka, no doubt. He defeated prime Djokovic in 3 Grand Slam matches (AO 2014, RG 2015 and USO 2016). Roddick never defeated prime Federer in any Grand Slam match.

 

[Sport]

Wawrinka's peak resulted in 3 Slams whilst Roddick's only netted him 1 so have to go with Stan here.

Nuff said.

Grass: Roddick
Hard court and grass: Wawrinka

True.

 

[True Fanerer]

Fed fans = Roddick
Djokovic fans = Wawrinka

 

[Red Rick]

So you are penalizing Wawrinka because he has played one more match against Federer. What makes you think Roddick would have defeated Federer had he faced him in another match?

H2H vs Federer
Roddick 3-21
Wawrinka 3-22

Must I penalise Roddick for never playing Federer when he's 31+?

 

[Sport]

Fed fans = Roddick
Djokovic fans = Wawrinka

Objective Murray fans like Mainad = Wawrinka.

Grass - Roddick
Clay - Wawrinka
HC - toss-up

How can it be a tossup? Roddick only won 1 Grand Slam on hard courts. Plus, Roddick won his only US Open defeating the clay specialist Ferrero in the final. Wawrinka has won 2 Grand Slams on hard courts, both of them defeating Djokovic.

 

[Red Rick]

Fed fans = Roddick
Djokovic fans = Wawrinka

Red Rick Fed Fan confirmed.

 

[Sport]

Red Rick Fed Fan confirmed.

Red Rick = former Roddick fan.

 

[True Fanerer]

Red Rick Fed Fan confirmed.

You're the exception to the rule

 

[Red Rick]

Objective Murray fans like Mainad = Wawrinka.



How can it be a tossup? Roddick only won 1 Grand Slam on hard courts. Plus, Roddick won his only US Open defeating the clay specialist Ferrero in the final. Wawrinka has won 2 Grand Slams on hard courts, both of them defeating Djokovic.

2016 USO Djokovic total ATG level ladies and gentlemen

 

[True Fanerer]

Objective Murray fans like Mainad = Wawrinka

Roddick would punish Wawrinka on grass and fast HC. Of course that's already been said a million times on TTW because it's a fact.

 

[Mainad]

Grass: Roddick
Hard court and grass: Wawrinka

Why did you add grass for Wawrinka?

 

[Night Slasher]

Why did you add grass for Wawrinka?

It's obvious he meant clay.