Who is the best shotmaker the game has ever seen ?

Otacon

Hall of Fame
OK, so who has had me out of my chair the most, literally screaming at the TV set, how the hell did he make that shot from that position? The one and only Rafael Nadal. The ultimate shotmaker.
No doubt legions of Federer fans have shouted the same thing at the TV set during Nadal matches but not been quite as happy as me at the outcome. :)
You mean passing shots, right ?

That's the only shot he impressed me with during the 2010s.
 

Otacon

Hall of Fame
Roger is easily better shotmaker than both Rafa and Novak. He also goes for too much and misses vs these guys in crunch moment and end up losing. Rafa and Novak are measured.

Between Rafa and Novak have to go with Rafa. The Forehand creates incredible shots more often than backhand. And Rafa has one of the best fh ever.

Best comment of this thread, I can die in peace.
 

Otacon

Hall of Fame
Obviously Djokovic.. who else has the ability to change the balls direction at will?
You need to review the concept of shotmaking.

This is an expert forum, your opinion, as respectable as it is, is completely off the mark.
 

Dole

New User
You need to review the concept of shotmaking.

This is an expert forum, your opinion, as respectable as it is, is completely off the mark.
Right, I still say Djokovic apart from just change of direction he is the most complete player ever in my opinion, as much as I respect yours this is mine.
 

Thriller

Hall of Fame
You mean passing shots, right ?

That's the only shot he impressed me with during the 2010s.
No not just passing shots, outright winners hit from the baseline with that fearhand.
Roger himself once said "Nadal is the ultimate shotmaker". Who am I to disagree.
 
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joohan

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Right, I still say Djokovic apart from just change of direction he is the most complete player ever in my opinion, as much as I respect yours this is mine.
Yes and quite irrelevant to the topic of the thread, unfortunately.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Tennis is first and foremost a sport of shots, and beyond the results, who has impressed you the most with their range of shots ?
I don't know what "shotmaker" is, what it means - but I have vague idea, so vaguely - all of big3 are best shotmakers.
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
I'll go with Boris Becker. I give him the nod over Fed because I think Boris could do more with his backhand when on the run.
Half-volley off the baseline Roger? Slice winner Roger? I think we need to go further back in history to find a better shotmaker.

PS: Tsonga has a lot of shots.
 

Service Ace

Hall of Fame
It's too general a question to have one answer. I'll just answer among B3.

Shotmaker off volley: Federer
Shotmaker off return: Djokovic. He can create many more shots off return, Federer mostly blocks 1st serves back.
Shotmaker off rally: Djokovic. He can create more acute angles off neutral balls than the others, he goes down the line more proficiently than them.

Nadal is a great rally player, because of his FH power, and groundstroke consistency, not because of his shotmaking.
Make it more obvious that you’re a child and definitely didn’t start watching tennis until 2011.

Pete was objectively a better volleyer than Fed and anyone who watched him could tell you that.
 

daggerman

Hall of Fame
Half-volley off the baseline Roger? Slice winner Roger? I think we need to go further back in history to find a better shotmaker.

PS: Tsonga has a lot of shots.
Yeah, you're probably right.

I think it's good to not forget older players and give them a nod if they're at least in the conversation, though.
 

Aretium

Hall of Fame
Anyone saying someone else than Roger just doesn't get it.
He's not the most successful, but I'm pretty sure he has more shotmaking in a few matches than some players do in a year
 
Agassi. He did this on polarized surfaces without the ShotGun Rackets that do all the work for you. . Not neutral/medium/slow-medium conditions. The big 3's shotmaking abilities wouldn't look nearly as good if they played in the 90s without the bazooka rackets
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
Make it more obvious that you’re a child and definitely didn’t start watching tennis until 2011.

Pete was objectively a better volleyer than Fed and anyone who watched him could tell you that.
Who's the child name caller? If you can't address someone in a decent manner, then stay far away from me!
 

flanker2000fr

Hall of Fame
For me, shotmaking is about the variety as much as the quality of shots one can execute from unlikely positions. This requires fantastic hands and a capacity to improvise. Qualities more likely to be found in a player attacking the net often as they are accustomed to react in a split second.

On that basis, my shortlist would be Federer, McEnroe, Leconte, Becker, Sampras, but I'll also throw Agassi in the mix as his hands and reaction time allowed him incredible shots.

Of that list, I'll probably give it to Federer, as he was / is capable of producing shots and angles that don't even exist with this incredible wrist of his.
 
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NicoMK

Professional
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Yep.

It's between him and Korda Sr.

Both lefties of course.

I've never seen anyone leave Sampras 10 feet from the ball in back of the court rallies like Korda could by taking the ball early.
Ah yes, almost forgot about Korda Sr. When he was on, he was really impressive too.
 
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joohan

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If shotmaking means hitting winners then from around 2005 (started watching tennis) Fed hands down and far ahead of anybody. USO final against Agassi (past his “prime” but could still rip it) ...hitting winners at will, while falling backwards and creating shots and angles that are not even on the tennis map time and again.
 
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