Who is the poineer of modern tennis?

Who revolutionised in tennis?


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I watched after Henin's retirement(Radwanska, Schiavone, Kuznetsova...) but in the last few years I do not bother checking women's matches unless Hsieh plays. I must say that I like Barti's style, at least compared to the rest.
I didn't just stop watching but my favorite was gone so I focused much more on the mens side. I was totally done with it when mugs like ostapenko started winning
 
Lol, I didn’t even know there was a 2nd Stef Graf out there! That’s hilarious.

I can’t find the article but I definitely have read that Graf trained with the German Olympic team and had a competitive 800m time at some point in the 80s, of course it could be a tall tale but she was a special athlete by any criterion.

Well, maybe she really trained with them at the Olympics, she was an exceptional athlete. One of the best on the women's side ever - fast, quick, fit, balanced, also powerful for her era. I can think of only a few WTA players who are/were in the same league.
 
I think Lendl was and many agree. I also know that Djokovic will be the next pioneer specifically his split step movement. Kids are being taught to move and cover the court like Djokovic in academies.
 
I definitely want to see how top players return from in the future. I honestly think Nadal is an exception because I don’t think over a long career returning from so deep is a good heathy option.
 
I definitely want to see how top players return from in the future. I honestly think Nadal is an exception because I don’t think over a long career returning from so deep is a good heathy option.
Medvedev and Thiem making 5 combined HC Slam finals in the past couple years suggest that he is a trendsetter.
 
Medvedev and Thiem making 5 combined HC Slam finals suggest that he is a trendsetter.
That’s why I said future. I want to see the kids of today and whether the approach is take it early to dictate points quickly or get it back in play. We won’t know for another 10/12 years.
 
It’s the fact he covers more ground with fewer steps. He isn’t making the traditional lunge it’s more of a soft jump. Petchey did a piece a while ago on it.

It's a usual hype made around a player who is super successful at one point. Nothing especially new or revolutionary about his movement. And Petchey is a fan.
 
Roger Federer's elegance revolutionized the game. The only thing to truly match it is the All-Valley tournament switching to blue mats.
 
Jimmy Connors took tennis out of the "country club" atmosphere and made it more street. He also tended to stay back more than almost all other players of the first half of the 1970s, and had a certain power in his game. So Connors was huge in this sense. Prior to Connors, there had been Ilie Nastase in terms of bad behaviour not of the "country club", but Nastase was seen as more of a maverick while Connors became a dominant force and more "in your face". Prior to Nastase, there had been Pancho Gonzales, but the tennis authorities ignored him and the pre-open era professional tour as much as they could.

Bjorn Borg and Guillermo Vilas had incredible fitness by 1970s standards, even more so Vilas in my opinion. Roscoe Tanner was outstanding for serving power in the 1970s, mostly with a metal racquet that he used.

Wooden racquets started to fade fast 1982-1985 time. Ivan Lendl started taking the game to greater heights in terms of fitness, diet, preparation, racquets in plastic bags etc., John McEnroe was at the forefront of the first power transition around 1983-84 time with graphite racquets, but was shocked by what was happening at 1985 Wimbledon with big servers Kevin Curren and Boris Becker. In the second half of the 1980s, the power in tennis seemed to gradually increase each year, with players like Lendl and Becker at the forefront, and then into the 1990s big servers like Goran Ivanisevic and Pete Sampras took the power to another level followed by when Jim Courier started having a good run in 1991-1993, and the big power forehand again changed the way that tennis was.

Gut strings were still dominant in the 1990s, and there was therefore a greater than ever contrast between styles on the different surfaces. Clay seemed to favour baseline play, grass big serving and volleys, hardcourt a mixture of the two, carpet more big serving and short rallies. In the late 1990s, Gustavo Kuerten started to use a poly string which would again change the way tennis was played, enabling a player to control rallies more easily with great depth and authority, making it harder for serve and volleyers as the poly string would enable returners to more easily pass their opponents.

The big 3 of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have of course taken the level of tennis to unbelievable heights, particularly the style of baseline rallies using poly strung racquets, sometimes with some gut mixture for some rawer, flatter power.
 
Always thought it was Agassi with the OS frame and baseline foundation strokes. Man his game has aged beautifully would have no problem obliterating the field today.
Yes, I should add Agassi to my detailed post. He transitioned well with the baseline rally game from the late 1980s through the 1990s and into the mid 2000s. The 1999-2005 version of Agassi is particularly important for when it comes to influence on present day tennis. Agassi certainly has a bigger influence on the present game stylewise than Sampras. Sampras though has the legacy of establishing the majors as a big legacy factor. Nobody was seriously counting before Sampras.
 
Jimmy Connors took tennis out of the "country club" atmosphere and made it more street. He also tended to stay back more than almost all other players of the first half of the 1970s, and had a certain power in his game. So Connors was huge in this sense. Prior to Connors, there had been Ilie Nastase in terms of bad behaviour not of the "country club", but Nastase was seen as more of a maverick while Connors became a dominant force and more "in your face". Prior to Nastase, there had been Pancho Gonzales, but the tennis authorities ignored him and the pre-open era professional tour as much as they could.

Bjorn Borg and Guillermo Vilas had incredible fitness by 1970s standards, even more so Vilas in my opinion. Roscoe Tanner was outstanding for serving power in the 1970s, mostly with a metal racquet that he used.

Wooden racquets started to fade fast 1982-1985 time. Ivan Lendl started taking the game to greater heights in terms of fitness, diet, preparation, racquets in plastic bags etc., John McEnroe was at the forefront of the first power transition around 1983-84 time with graphite racquets, but was shocked by what was happening at 1985 Wimbledon with big servers Kevin Curren and Boris Becker. In the second half of the 1980s, the power in tennis seemed to gradually increase each year, with players like Lendl and Becker at the forefront, and then into the 1990s big servers like Goran Ivanisevic and Pete Sampras took the power to another level followed by when Jim Courier started having a good run in 1991-1993, and the big power forehand again changed the way that tennis was.

Gut strings were still dominant in the 1990s, and there was therefore a greater than ever contrast between styles on the different surfaces. Clay seemed to favour baseline play, grass big serving and volleys, hardcourt a mixture of the two, carpet more big serving and short rallies. In the late 1990s, Gustavo Kuerten started to use a poly string which would again change the way tennis was played, enabling a player to control rallies more easily with great depth and authority, making it harder for serve and volleyers as the poly string would enable returners to more easily pass their opponents.

The big 3 of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have of course taken the level of tennis to unbelievable heights, particularly the style of baseline rallies using poly strung racquets, sometimes with some gut mixture for some rawer, flatter power.
Summed up perfectly:giggle:(y)
 
Hmmm, Borg was a baseliner but certainly his game on hc didn't look anything close to modern baseliners . It can't be anyone other than JC . Dude won many points that would make Nadal and Djokovic proud lol

see this

edit- JC was one hell of an entertainer lol , what a character he was.
One of the best points in modern tennis history.
Connors, what a player he was!
:cool:
 
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