Who needs the W25 win more, Sinner, Djokovic or Alcaraz?

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Sinner has never met Alcaraz in all 3 slams he won, while Alcaraz has beaten Sinner 3 times enroute to his 5 slams win.

Djokovic's only real goal this year is to tie Roger's record, which is historic.

And Alcaraz is getting his body ready for his USO mixed-double gig
 
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Sinner has never once met Alcaraz in all the three slams he won, while Alcaraz has beaten Sinner 3 times on his way to the five slams he won.

Djokovic's only real goal for this year is to tie Roger's record, which is historic.

Alcaraz is seemingly setting his mind to his USO mixed-double gig
i don't think so. any slam is good for nole. but W was his dream since he was a little kid and he said that he think that it is his best chance for 25.
 
The others have time on their side which Djokovic does not. This may be his last shot at a slam. But he's also already the GOAT. So I don't think winning this would change his legacy that much.

Alcaraz seems to be dominant over Sinner but then again, Sinner came extremely close to beating him at RG. And given that Alcaraz has frankly been lacklustre on hard courts comparatively speaking, if Sinner claims Wimbledon, Alcaraz won't be safe anywhere.

I would go with Sinner though. He's older than Alcaraz so in theory should be ahead but he's actually quite behind. He's never won a slam off hard courts and seems to have a match up issue with Alcaraz. If he's locked out of Wimbledon once again, it may hit his confidence hard. So I think Sinner needs it most
 
I think he would rather have 8 wimbledon titles than 26 slams
i don't
for his legacy one more RG should mean more, 4 CGS and more balanced CV
one more USO should mean that he is GOAT ther due 11 finals
and even with 2 more AO 26 is better than 25
 
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Rooting for Zverev to reach the final and lose so he gets the career finals slam without ever winning one.
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Djokovic has all of the important records. He needs this the least. And it’s not close. As for Alcaraz and Sinner, that’s a tough call. Alcaraz leads Sinner 5-3 in the slam race. He has also won the last 5 matches against Sinner. A 6-3 lead for Alcaraz would be tough to overcome. But on the flip side, if Sinner won, then we would say that Sinner has the edge at 3 slams, with the 4th slam being a coin flip. That wouldn’t bode well for Alcaraz while holding on to a paper-thin lead of 5-4 at the slams. But I will say that it’s still more important for Sinner to win it.
 
if novak won, he should retire on the spot. mic drop moment. ofc he would never, as a champion is just proves he can win even more of em
 
1) Sinner
2) Alcaraz











3) Djokovic

Djokovic has 24 slams and at end of his career so needs it the least. Alcaraz is in a better position than sinner in their careers so has less pressure. Sinner knows another loss at Wimbledon especially to alcaraz will be very damaging.
Dude, Djokovic has not won a slam in almost two years. Many times I wonder if you really back him.
 
Dude, Djokovic has not won a slam in almost two years. Many times I wonder if you really back him.
Yeah and he doesn’t need to win another. He’s basically completed tennis and he’s 38. As Djokovic fans we get greedy a bit like Novak but it isn’t essential anymore. He won more than I ever thought was possible.

Unless you think he should be winning slams forever?
 
Yeah and he doesn’t need to win another. He’s basically completed tennis and he’s 38. As Djokovic fans we get greedy a bit like Novak but it isn’t essential anymore. He won more than I ever thought was possible.

Unless you think he should be winning slams forever?
You don't get it. This is likely his last shot at Wimbledon, therefore he need to win it the most.
 
You don't get it. This is his last shot at Wimbledon therefore he need it the most.
Even if it his last chance he still doesn’t need it the most. He’s won 7 of them and has 24 slams. Sinner is 23 and hasn’t won it yet. He’s in the peak of his career so him losing is much worse than Jurassic Djokovic losing.
 
Even if it his last chance he still doesn’t need it the most. He’s won 7 of them and has 24 slams. Sinner is 23 and hasn’t won it yet. He’s in the peak of his career so him losing is much worse than Jurassic Djokovic losing.
You are wrong again. Djokovic is 38, Sinner will get many chances in the future.
 
Sinner has to win WIM for boosting self confidence.
5 3 will become 5 4 if SINNER wins
5 3 will become 6 3 if CARLOS wins.
Sinner need it more .
If none of them then Novak as it is his last roll of the dice
 
You are wrong again. Djokovic is 38, Sinner will get many chances in the future.
No guarantee Sinner wins in future though. Right now sinner is in the form of his life and at peak/prime form and age. Sinner not winning this Wimbledon is a bigger disappointment than Djokovic not winning. Djokovic is 3rd favourite at best so isn’t expected to win. He has 7 titles in his trophy cabinet so it hurts him less. Whereas any slam sinner loses is a major disappointment for the world no1.

You seem to making it out that it is life or death that Djokovic wins this slam. It really isn’t now Djokovic got what he wanted with Olympic gold and the slam record. He playing bonus rounds to see if he can steal 1 more. If it doesn’t happen though he will get over it much easier than before. He will still play tennis after this Wimbledon as well.
 
No guarantee Sinner wins in future though. Right now sinner is in the form of his life and at peak/prime form and age. Sinner not winning this Wimbledon is a bigger disappointment than Djokovic not winning. Djokovic is 3rd favourite at best so isn’t expected to win. He has 7 titles in his trophy cabinet so it hurts him less. Whereas any slam sinner loses is a major disappointment for the world no1.

You seem to making it out that it is life or death that Djokovic wins this slam. It really isn’t now Djokovic got what he wanted with Olympic gold and the slam record. He playing bonus rounds to see if he can steal 1 more. If it doesn’t happen though he will get over it much easier than before. He will still play tennis after this Wimbledon as well.
Without making all out effort novak is not winning wimbeldon.
You are right that novak legacy was completed by OLYMPIC GOLD but as we all can see he still can reach SF in slams. One final push and maybe he can have 1 more.
 
Even if it his last chance he still doesn’t need it the most. He’s won 7 of them and has 24 slams. Sinner is 23 and hasn’t won it yet. He’s in the peak of his career so him losing is much worse than Jurassic Djokovic losing.
As a fan of Sinner, I really would like to see a proper win in a slam against Alcaraz. I’m tired of him coming up short it’s a pain. And it’s not that he isn’t playing well enough

USO 22’ he should’ve won that match
RG 25’ he should’ve won that match

Those 2 matches he had MP and was entirely on his racket. I want to see him get a huge win in a slam finals
 
Sinner, obviously.
The world number 1 must prove he is the best player in the world by winning his second Major of the season.
He can't allow Alcaraz to continue to gain ground on him in this type of tournaments.
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For someone who is 1.93 he served worse than his 1.83 opponent in the RG final, which ultimately led to his demise, despite having 3 match points. And that’s the problem in the rivalry.

He got only broken thrice leading up to the final, yet in the final, he was broken seven times
 
Without making all out effort novak is not winning wimbeldon.
You are right that novak legacy was completed by OLYMPIC GOLD but as we all can see he still can reach SF in slams. One final push and maybe he can have 1 more.
I agree he needs to play like it his last chance and try throw everything at it. That’s true but it still isn’t as important for him as it is for sinner or alcaraz. This shouldn’t be his time now and he’s on house money. The fact he even a contender after all these years and what he’s won is incredible.
 
As a fan of Sinner, I really would like to see a proper win in a slam against Alcaraz. I’m tired of him coming up short it’s a pain. And it’s not that he isn’t playing well enough

USO 22’ he should’ve won that match
RG 25’ he should’ve won that match

Those 2 matches he had MP and was entirely on his racket. I want to see him get a huge win in a slam finals
I agree. Sinner has pressure because of the alcaraz mental baggage. He has to beat him soon in a big slam match. As he can turn the tide if he can find a way to win. If not alcaraz can basically become the blocker to sinner in slams and the biggest matches going forward. Sinner has to stop the rot. He is very close but he needs to get over the line fast.
 
I agree. Sinner has pressure because of the alcaraz mental baggage. He has to beat him soon in a big slam match. As he can turn the tide if he can find a way to win. If not alcaraz can basically become the blocker to sinner in slams and the biggest matches going forward. Sinner has to stop the rot. He is very close but he needs to get over the line fast.
And people always compare them to the Fed Nadal rivalry, but people forget Fed was beating Nadal in slams - at Wimbledon


Fed wasn’t flopping everywhere. He was losing to him at RG, and ofc that Unforgettable 2008 Wimbledon finals. But Sinner has not defeated Alcaraz in a slam in 3 years. And he loses the close matches every single time. He has to break out of it or else it won’t be considered a proper rivalry, if every time they go over 5 hours he comes out on the losing end of the stick
 
I agree he needs to play like it his last chance and try throw everything at it. That’s true but it still isn’t as important for him as it is for sinner or alcaraz. This shouldn’t be his time now and he’s on house money. The fact he even a contender after all these years and what he’s won is incredible.
When you are in the race you are there for winning the title.
Novak may win or may not win but many of his fans will be disappointed if he does not go all out.
No regret if he gives his 100%. Win or loss is part of game .
Everything depends on what novak thinks . If he thinks that he will play till next olympics than he will not go all out.
If he think that this is it then maybe he can produce some magic again
 
And people always compare them to the Fed Nadal rivalry, but people forget Fed was beating Nadal in slams - at Wimbledon


Fed wasn’t flopping everywhere. He was losing to him at RG, and ofc that Unforgettable 2008 Wimbledon finals. But Sinner has not defeated Alcaraz in a slam in 3 years. And he loses the close matches every single time. He has to break out of it or else it won’t be considered a proper rivalry, if every time they go over 5 hours he comes out on the losing end of the stick
I agree. Feds rivalry with Nadal was ugly early on but he at least beat at Wimbledon and a couple of places. The fear for sinner is alcaraz beats him everywhere.

He has to stop that from happening. It not time for you to panic yet though because let’s see what happens on grass and the HC slams. If alcaraz makes it to sinner in all these next 3 slams and beats him then yeah it a real problem for sinner and his fans.

This is why he needs to get a big win soon as it the only stumbling block in his path to dominating right now.
 
When you are in the race you are there for winning the title.
Novak may win or may not win but many of his fans will be disappointed if he does not go all out.
No regret if he gives his 100%. Win or loss is part of game .
Everything depends on what novak thinks . If he thinks that he will play till next olympics than he will not go all out.
If he think that this is it then maybe he can produce some magic again
I’m sure Novak will give it his all. He did that in the last 2 slams and had 2 great runs. He still a wants to win and has the magic but it just more difficult now due to alcaraz/sinner in his path. He has nothing to lose though. They have more to lose than him at this point.
 
I agree. Feds rivalry with Nadal was ugly early on but he at least beat at Wimbledon and a couple of places. The fear for sinner is alcaraz beats him everywhere.

He has to stop that from happening. It not time for you to panic yet though because let’s see what happens on grass and the HC slams. If alcaraz makes it to sinner in all these next 3 slams and beats him then yeah it a real problem for sinner and his fans.

This is why he needs to get a big win soon as it the only stumbling block in his path to dominating right now.
I think he really needs to win Wimbledon - if he loses it would look like this:

9-4 head to head and 6-3 in slams. A lot of doubt and scar tissue would develop.

While if Sinner wins - it will be 8-5 head to head and 5-4 slams. I think I like the latter scenario, but it’s easier said than done. He needs to go out there and if he has a lead, ride the wave of momentum and do not let Raz back in
 
Sinner has never met Alcaraz in all 3 slams he won, while Alcaraz has beaten Sinner 3 times enroute to his 5 slams win.

Djokovic's only real goal this year is to tie Roger's record, which is historic.

And Alcaraz is getting his body ready for his USO mixed-double gig Emma Raducanu

I'd say it's the most crucial for Sinner, he'll be desperate to regain some ground, finally win big off HC and also end his streak of losses against Alcaraz (if it comes to that).
 
I’m sure Novak will give it his all. He did that in the last 2 slams and had runs. He still a wants to win and has the magic but it just more difficult now due to alcaraz/sinner in his path. He has nothing to lose though. They have more to lose than him at this point.
Novak has to gamble everything for one last roll of dice.
 
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No guarantee Sinner wins in future though. Right now sinner is in the form of his life and at peak/prime form and age. Sinner not winning this Wimbledon is a bigger disappointment than Djokovic not winning. Djokovic is 3rd favourite at best so isn’t expected to win. He has 7 titles in his trophy cabinet so it hurts him less. Whereas any slam sinner loses is a major disappointment for the world no1.

You seem to making it out that it is life or death that Djokovic wins this slam. It really isn’t now Djokovic got what he wanted with Olympic gold and the slam record. He playing bonus rounds to see if he can steal 1 more. If it doesn’t happen though he will get over it much easier than before. He will still play tennis after this Wimbledon as well.
Sinner won 3 of the las 6 slams, Djokovic needs this Wimby so much more. Just reckon you don't back Nole as much as your username would suggest.
 
Sinner won 3 of the las 6 slams, Djokovic needs this Wimby so much more. Just reckon you don't back Nole as much as your username would suggest.
Sinner should be winning most of the slams now. He is 23 and at his peak right now. He only on 3 slams so still has a long way to go. As much as we should have faith in Djokovic he is 38 and is slowing down. I want Djokovic to win but if he doesn’t it’s expected. His trophy cabinet is stacked and he’s trying to add the final bonus cherries on his completed cake now. If he unable to though it won’t affect him as much as sinner/alcaraz.

I can’t understand your logic that this is more important for Djokovic to win after everything he’s won. This won’t be the last tournament he plays either and he has already won 24 slams and 7 Wimbledon’s. This should be sinner’s time so the pressure is on him. Novak hasn’t got long left to win but my point is he’s already won that much. If he doesn’t anything else again it won’t hurt him as much.
 
Sinner should be winning most of the slams now. He is 23 and at his peak right now. He only on 3 slams so still has a long way to go. As much as we should have faith in Djokovic he is 38 and is slowing down. I want Djokovic to win but if he doesn’t it’s expected. His trophy cabinet is stacked and he’s trying to add the final bonus cherries on his completed cake now. If he unable to though it won’t affect him as much as sinner/alcaraz.

I can’t understand your logic that this is more important for Djokovic to win after everything he’s won. This won’t be the last tournament he plays either and he has already won 24 slams and 7 Wimbledon’s. This should be sinner’s time so the pressure is on him. Novak hasn’t got long left to win but my point is he’s already won that much. If he doesn’t anything else again it won’t hurt him as much.
Honestly Sinner needs a big win over Alcaraz. It’s well overdue. It pains as a fan, he’s not losing cuz he’s not good enough. He generated 3 MPs and could seal the deal and same at the USO 3 years ago. He needs to toughen up and ride a momentum wave
 
Honestly Sinner needs a big win over Alcaraz. It’s well overdue. It pains as a fan, he’s not losing cuz he’s not good enough. He generated 3 MPs and could seal the deal and same at the USO 3 years ago. He needs to toughen up and ride a momentum wave
I agree. Sinner’s losses are tough to take if you are a sinner fan. As most have been close where sinner had match points or been winning only for alcaraz to comeback and beat him. There isn’t much in it but Carlos just edges the bigger points right now. Sinner has time to turn it around though. Let’s see.
 
I agree. Sinner’s losses are tough to take if you are a sinner fan. As most have been close where sinner had match points or been winning only for alcaraz to comeback and beat him. There isn’t much in it but Carlos just edges the bigger points right now. Sinner has time to turn it around though. Let’s see.
And it's not like hes being overpowered or demolished, hes blowing leads and momentum waves. Thats what makes it even hurtful
 
Forget Novak, he has 24 slams and 7 Wimbledons. He's in retirement mode, anything he still wins is just a bonus.

As for the other two, I don't see there being any less pressure on Alcaraz than Sinner. Obviously there's a lot less than there would have been if he'd lost the RG final, but there's still a ton on him as the 2x defending champion who is now expected to win. If he loses the title it'll be treated like a dethroning. And if Sinner wins then suddenly there'd be a ton of pressure for Carlos to answer back in New York, and I'm sure he doesn't want to deal with that, or deal with Sinner potentially taking home a 3 slam season because he couldn't defend his turf.

And that's not to say there isn't immense pressure on Sinner, I just don't see it as being bigger than Alcaraz. There's pressure to prove he can off hard courts, and ideally that he can still beat Alcaraz in a big match (if they meet).
 
Sinner should be winning most of the slams now. He is 23 and at his peak right now. He only on 3 slams so still has a long way to go. As much as we should have faith in Djokovic he is 38 and is slowing down. I want Djokovic to win but if he doesn’t it’s expected. His trophy cabinet is stacked and he’s trying to add the final bonus cherries on his completed cake now. If he unable to though it won’t affect him as much as sinner/alcaraz.

I can’t understand your logic that this is more important for Djokovic to win after everything he’s won. This won’t be the last tournament he plays either and he has already won 24 slams and 7 Wimbledon’s. This should be sinner’s time so the pressure is on him. Novak hasn’t got long left to win but my point is he’s already won that much. If he doesn’t anything else again it won’t hurt him as much.

Djokovic is using other players trophy cabinet to put in his trophies in now...

But I do agree that Sinner needs this the most, he needs to bounce back after that epic RG final. He is at his peak, and he needs to start winning big off HC to make his assault on the record books.

Djokovic is simply looking for one more slam, AFTER he already has the slam record and won all the big titles. He NEEDED the SOG last year the most of them all, but that was the title that he truly needed.

Now, it is simply about trying to win one more. I mean if he wins this, then what? Try to win one more again? He's 38 now.
 
Sinner has never met Alcaraz in all 3 slams he won, while Alcaraz has beaten Sinner 3 times enroute to his 5 slams win.

Djokovic's only real goal this year is to tie Roger's record, which is historic.

And Alcaraz is getting his body ready for his USO mixed-double gig
Djokovic clearly. If he keeps losing to Alcaraz and Sinner he is going to end up 5th on the ATG list this century and seem as a basic stop gap between the Fedal and Sinneraz eras. This Wimbledon is massive for Djokovic.
 
Alcaraz can't lose to Sinner at Wimbledon and give up his natural surface turfs like he almost did at RG. , And Sinner can't lose a 20th match in a row to Alcaraz or whatever it is. Both need this equally. No one is catching Djokovic so he doesn't really "need" anything. So the answer is... Someone else LOL. Someone else needs to join the party. Fils, Boobylik, .. Someone. It can't remain a 2 man tour. You need at least a third dog added to the party. Carlos/Sinner vulturing everything is bad for the game.. People will tune out if that remains
 
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