Who south-american player was greater?

Who was greater?

  • Segura

    Votes: 8 7.0%
  • Olmedo

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Vilas

    Votes: 63 54.8%
  • Rios

    Votes: 7 6.1%
  • Kuerten

    Votes: 32 27.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 2.6%

  • Total voters
    115
  • Poll closed .
#4
Vilas put Latin American tennis on the map. Won the French, US, and Aussie Opens. 68 titles on top of that. Enough said!
 
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#7
This poll is an outrage!
Where the hell is Carlos Kirmayr? Hugo Chapacu? Victor Pecci? Hans Gildemeister? Cassio Motta? Andres Gomez? Martin Jaite? Jaime Oncins? Nicolas Pereira? Alberto Mancini? Jose Luis Clerc?

Kidding.

Historically Segoo. But, I'm guessing Vilas will win this poll.
Raw talent: Rios.

All factors considered (character, philanthropy, integrity, 3 Roland Garros titles, ending a year as ATP no. 1 with a Masters Cup title, transcendant personality and game complete with a large serve and good touch around the net along with one of the finest one-handed backhands of the modern era), my vote goes to Gustavo Kuerten for sure.

If there were a women's division, I'd vote for Maria Bueno and Gabriela Sabatini.
 
#10
Segura has the problem of the pro-amateur-split, and that he played mostly on the US circuit. Olmedo had a meteoric amateur career. His fame relied on the fact, that he played and won the Davis Cup for the US. So both had not that much impact on the genuine South American development of the game. So Vilas could become a sort of founding father of the South American game. He had an enormous impact on the game in Argentina, even Sabatini modelled her game after him. There were some other good South Americans, too, as the lefthander Thomas Koch in the 60s. But earlier, the women had greater impact on the global game as Lili d'Alvarez.
 
#11
Vilas, of course. It's impossible to say that Kuerten is better than Vilas : Kuerten won 3 Grand Slam and Vilas 4. Kuerten won 3 times one Grand Slam, and Vilas won 3 different Grand Slam, on clay and on grass. Vilas won the Masters, and Kuerten did not. And finally, Vilas won 61 tournaments, and Kuerten not even 30.
 
#13
Vilas, of course. It's impossible to say that Kuerten is better than Vilas : Kuerten won 3 Grand Slam and Vilas 4. Kuerten won 3 times one Grand Slam, and Vilas won 3 different Grand Slam, on clay and on grass. Vilas won the Masters, and Kuerten did not. And finally, Vilas won 61 tournaments, and Kuerten not even 30.
Guga win the Masters in 2000.
Vilas won 62 titles, not 61. And had two finals not finish (montecarlo 81 and johannesburg 77).:)
 
#17
Vilas has to be the greatest South American player of the ones listed. He had rock star status. One of his greatest achievements was when he won Wimbledon vs. Dean-Paul Martin's character in the movie Players. LOL.
 
#18
Depends on what standards you pick.

Of the old generation Vilas

Rios because he was the first South American number 1.

Kuerten because he finished the year as number 1.
 

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#28
Guillermo Vilas

Obviously Guillermo Vilas. Is important to say that he was the best one in 1977 (he won 16 championships, including Roland Garros and U.S. Open; and played the final of Australian Open; the next year, in ´78 won that championship), but the ATP-absurdly- did not recognize him like number one (it was not business)

"Vilas employed this grueling strategy to compile one of the most dominating seasons in history. In 1977, he won 145 matches, 17 of 33 tournaments, including Roland Garros and the U.S. Open, and strung together a 50-match win streak, still the men’s Open era record. The fact that Vilas finished No. 2 behind Jimmy Connors, who didn’t win a major that year, was a rankings travesty of the highest order.
But there was never any question about who was No. 1 among fans. After winning the ’77 Open, spectators stormed the court at Forest Hills and carried Vilas on a joyous victory lap. Vilas invariably captured the heart of the crowd, even as he ground opponents into dust. – JAMES MARTIN"
 
#31
Vilas will play in August in Portugal, for the senior tour. He will play against Borg, and against players who are very young (Rios, Bruguera ...). Fantastic !!
 
#34
Tough comparison but I also opt for Pancho over Vilas in this lineup. If not for Pancho Gonzalez, Segura would surely be recognized as one of the GOAT contenders
Good points. Vilas was a great champion and I loved watching that running topspin forhand. The guy sure hit a heavy ball and was enjoyable to watch. But Pancho was really the pioneering great South American.
 
#37
But there was never any question about who was No. 1 among fans. After winning the ’77 Open, spectators stormed the court at Forest Hills and carried Vilas on a joyous victory lap. Vilas invariably captured the heart of the crowd, even as he ground opponents into dust. – JAMES MARTIN"


Have to disagree with james martin there certainly was a question over who was number 1 that year and there still is to this day wethere it was vilas ,borg or connors.However i think vilas was a class player and best s american player has he was superb on clay and pretty good on all other surfaces with grass being his weakest but he still won 2 australian opens although borg,coonors and mac were not present.
 
#38
Tough comparison but I also opt for Pancho over Vilas in this lineup. If not for Pancho Gonzalez, Segura would surely be recognized as one of the GOAT contenders
Indeed. The early 1950s are certainly among the most difficult years in tennis history to assess, for a variety of reasons, but Segura was a consistent contender for the title of best player in the world during that time. As I've related before, Jack Kramer unequivocally stated that Segura was a better player than Rosewall.
 
#40
Well if your kidding! Then dump Kuerten off the list. Gomez stats are equal to if not beter than his!

You know guys tennis didn't begin in 1995!


This poll is an outrage!
Where the hell is Carlos Kirmayr? Hugo Chapacu? Victor Pecci? Hans Gildemeister? Cassio Motta? Andres Gomez? Martin Jaite? Jaime Oncins? Nicolas Pereira? Alberto Mancini? Jose Luis Clerc?

Kidding.

Historically Segoo. But, I'm guessing Vilas will win this poll.
Raw talent: Rios.

All factors considered (character, philanthropy, integrity, 3 Roland Garros titles, ending a year as ATP no. 1 with a Masters Cup title, transcendant personality and game complete with a large serve and good touch around the net along with one of the finest one-handed backhands of the modern era), my vote goes to Gustavo Kuerten for sure.

If there were a women's division, I'd vote for Maria Bueno and Gabriela Sabatini.
 
#42
62 titles + 2 shared, 4 GS plus 4GS runner up, 1 Masters, 1 WCT Finals runner up, 17 titles in 1977 plus 50 matches in a row, you can add titles in every surface, 3 Grand Prix years 1°......
VILAS!!!!
 
#43
1.vilas 2.segura 3.kuerten

clerc and andres gomez were both pretty good as well but the '80s was a really strong era...clerc won about 25 titles and his head to head was pretty impressive against most of the top guys of his era...i can't think of many better players that never made a grandslam final.
 
#44
Vilas, of course. It's impossible to say that Kuerten is better than Vilas : Kuerten won 3 Grand Slam and Vilas 4. Kuerten won 3 times one Grand Slam, and Vilas won 3 different Grand Slam, on clay and on grass. Vilas won the Masters, and Kuerten did not. And finally, Vilas won 61 tournaments, and Kuerten not even 30.

I agree that Vilas is greater, but Kuerten did indeed win the Masters, beating Sampras AND Agassi in one of the best back-to-back performances ever.
 
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