Who thinks Fed would play better with a 95" racquet?

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
now we are back to what racquet Fed is really using or used...hahahahahaha

talk about a topic that has been beaten to death!

do any of you 'What racquet is federer really using' experts actually know what the composition/layup of feds paintjob is and how it compares to the consumer grade k90?
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
^^Good question.

Do you know what the **REAL** composition/layup of your current frame is??? Or do you just rely on what Becker states it is??? Because being that racquet manufacturers are less than honest, the frame you have in your posession right now may be made out of dog-poo. have you had it tested to make sure becker is being truthful???
 
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Fedace

Banned
He has been having PROBLEMS with Forehand Flying long out of Control. If he switches to bigger size head, then that problem will get Worse since there is more trampoline effect with larger head.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I think Fed uses a custom composition with flex and feel closer to the PS85 than what is obtainable with the cheaper sand-filled Karophite Black material. The PS85 has a unique feel unmatched by any other frame - with a stiffness which does not feel stiff. Being that Fed is a touch and feel artiste, I don't think he would have settled for the lack of feel of K Factor.
 
In this week's mailbag, Sports Illustrated writer Jon Wertheim speculates that Federer's recent troubles may be related to a switch to a smaller racquet head at the beginning of the year. Jon Wertheim has a lot of inside knowledge. Anyone know if Federer switched to a smaller-headed racquet?

Posters here at TW have been saying that forever.

But its sort of a taboo subject.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Does anyone know what the **REAL** composition/layup of thier current frame is??? Or do you just rely on the manufacturer states it is??? Because being that racquet manufacturers are less than honest, the frame you have in your posession right now may be made out of dog-poo.

has anyone ever had their frame tested to make sure the matirials in the frame are what the manufacturers claim???
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
I think Fed uses a custom composition with flex and feel closer to the PS85 than what is obtainable with the cheaper sand-filled Karophite Black material. The PS85 has a unique feel unmatched by any other frame - with a stiffness which does not feel stiff. Being that Fed is a touch and feel artiste, I don't think he would have settled for the lack of feel of K Factor.


Which PS85 are you referring to??

Chicago, Vincent, Taiwan, China or second China Model???
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
He has been having PROBLEMS with Forehand Flying long out of Control. If he switches to bigger size head, then that problem will get Worse since there is more trampoline effect with larger head.

Fedace that is a logical presumption, but if you arent familiar w. the k90 that racquet has some unusual properties...first off there is a hot spot down low compared to the middle of the stringbed and also up north of center. couple that with the way they layed out the strings increasing the spacing in the middle for more power <which is backwards from thoughtful racquet designs>, and you can indeed pretty easily hit some 'flyers'...i mean obviously you can, based upon feds wild forehand misses. This can be made more dramatic if the contact point is not out in front enough..this racquet is too demanding for federer if he wants any shot at getting back to #1 again....this racquet is only right for Milos..it's the only racquet Milos will use ;)

I think Fed uses a custom composition with flex and feel closer to the PS85 than what is obtainable with the cheaper sand-filled Karophite Black material. The PS85 has a unique feel unmatched by any other frame - with a stiffness which does not feel stiff. Being that Fed is a touch and feel artiste, I don't think he would have settled for the lack of feel of K Factor.

Thats very logical and plausible. doubtful he is using a racquet made out of carbon black <a cheap filler> and sand mixed in w. some graphite like the consumer grade k90. they are likely making him a racquet out of a much higher grade graphite prepreg customized to Feds liking for weight distribution and stiffness parameters
 

Fedace

Banned
^^^Federer always hits the middle of the stringbed perfectly so he probably doen't have to worry about those hotspots down low and up top.
and bigger size head would have even more hotspots in the string bed anyway.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Fedace that is a logical presumption, but if you arent familiar w. the k90 that racquet has some unusual properties...first off there is a hot spot down low compared to the middle of the stringbed and also up north of center.

Wait a second. You stated you don't know, nor anyone for that matter what the layup/compoisition of Fed's real racquet is. So how would you know what his frames "hot spots" are????:confused:
 

milo

Semi-Pro
i don't know anything about the composition of any racket. but in my opinion..as a junior....back then when he's not famous like now....he will receive a regular racket. maybe after that he told them to customize the rackets. but isn't that just an ordinary racket at the beginning. i also think that one's changing a racket in a close competition like now...is way to risky. we'll never know if it would help fed or not..the only way to know it...try to convince fed of using one....
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I agree, a "sticky" with bold print should be made on this topic that's been beaten to death. Again, a thread just like this showed up right before the US Open 2008 and disappeared shortly after Federer won his 5th consecutive US Open.

His racket to win the US Open 2008: Wilson K6.1 Tour 90.

Enough of this already.

I have a better idea....TW should add a new folder:

Dead Horse Stable

Then all the threads which have been beat to death will be logically organized. :)

NoBadMojo said:
<which is backwards from thoughtful racquet designs>

And this is where you invite flak. It is different racquet design. Just because it doesn't follow a standard of denser strings toward the middle like most other manufacturers doesn't mean it's not thoughtfully designed. I would imagine quite the contrary, it is probably because that's the way Federer wanted it. While it may not work for masses, it seems to work for him pretty well.

I've also not seen anything quantitative on how much difference a concentrated string pattern makes over an evenly spaced one, but I dare say that it's at best a tweak.

Fedace that is a logical presumption, but if you arent familiar w. the k90 that racquet has some unusual properties...first off there is a hot spot down low compared to the middle of the stringbed and also up north of center. couple that with the way they layed out the strings increasing the spacing in the middle for more power <which is backwards from thoughtful racquet designs>, and you can indeed pretty easily hit some 'flyers'...i mean obviously you can, based upon feds wild forehand misses. This can be made more dramatic if the contact point is not out in front enough..this racquet is too demanding for federer if he wants any shot at getting back to #1 again....this racquet is only right for Milos..it's the only racquet Milos will use ;)



Thats very logical and plausible. doubtful he is using a racquet made out of carbon black <a cheap filler> and sand mixed in w. some graphite like the consumer grade k90. they are likely making him a racquet out of a much higher grade graphite prepreg customized to Feds liking for weight distribution and stiffness parameters

Wait a second. You stated you don't know, nor anyone for that matter what the layup/compoisition of Fed's real racquet is. So how would you know what his frames "hot spots" are????:confused:

This is a very valid question...if Federer's racquet is a one-off, then how can anyone say it has a hot spot? Also, nbmj, I thought your experience with this frame was limited to one, very brief hit. And finally, one person's hot spot is another's sweetspot.

There are those who want to assign a negative connotation with a manufacturer or a racquet. In point of fact, racquets aren't good or bad, the choices we make in relation to them is bad. Some folks hate the Volkl C10 and describe it as a noodle. I love it and describe it as a friendly flex. One man's ceiling is another man's floor.

There have been those who own, customize, and string Federer's racquets who say that his frame is a stock Wilson frame. It has lead tape added and his frames are selected to be very close in spec, but these folks say it's a regular frame. If this isn't good enough, I don't know what is...but the horse continues to be beaten.

And....I wish we could all make as poor equipment choices as Federer....
 
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West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
The shanks would still be shanks with a 95". He'd have to go to a 195" to get the sweet spot.

The old saying "It's not the arrows, it's the (American - don't want Suresh to get his panties bunched up) Indian." Fed is feeling the pressure (of trying to get to 15, trying to get back to #1, trying to stay ahead of Murray and Joker), getting impatient, and hitting the ball all over the place.

He needs a coach (one that he'll actually listen to) who'll come up with a game plan to beat the (soon to be) top 3. A serving % over 50 would help too. :)
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
^Yep, and this is precisely what Jose Higeraus said. Federer needs a new game plan and someone to help him figure it out. It's a shame Darren Cahill couldn't travel.

I would also offer up that Nads needs to be thinking about a more worldly coach than Uncle Tony. Truth be told, 90% of Nads' game is based on his physicality. If/when his body starts to slow down or he loses a step, he's going to need a world class "plan B" to stay on top. If he doesn't, his stock will fall pretty fast. Of the guys on top now, I think Murray has the most solid foundation and brightest future moving forward.

And to your point about racquet size. Take a 90 and a 95 unstrung and trace inside the frame's head. Hold them up.....little to no difference. A manufacturer's choice of a number for head size has more to do with the company's heritage than it does the acutal number...
 
^Yep, and this is precisely what Jose Higeraus said. Federer needs a new game plan and someone to help him figure it out. It's a shame Darren Cahill couldn't travel.

I would also offer up that Nads needs to be thinking about a more worldly coach than Uncle Tony. Truth be told, 90% of Nads' game is based on his physicality. If/when his body starts to slow down or he loses a step, he's going to need a world class "plan B" to stay on top. If he doesn't, his stock will fall pretty fast. Of the guys on top now, I think Murray has the most solid foundation and brightest future moving forward.

And to your point about racquet size. Take a 90 and a 95 unstrung and trace inside the frame's head. Hold them up.....little to no difference. A manufacturer's choice of a number for head size has more to do with the company's heritage than it does the acutal number...

1- Federer needs a mental break....the same way Sampras took one.

2- Nadals game is far from all physical. No one can relicate Nadals strokes. They are a thing of beaity....they look like a trick shot. No one except Tony can teach those shots. In fact no pro anywhere is teaching those shots....because they simmply can't.
Nadals forehand is revolutionary.

3-Guys with smaller sticks always say size doesnt matter. But we all know that size does matter ;)
 

Shagrath

New User
I really dont care about the racquet of Roger Federer. As far I'm concerned, I think he overcomes all of us on a tennis court...(I'm really sure ! :D). We can't debate years about this..he won 13 GS after all...Maybe he's not the expected champ'. He has just a huge lack of confidence...that's all.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
now we are back to what racquet Fed is really using or used...hahahahahaha

talk about a topic that has been beaten to death!

do any of you 'What racquet is federer really using' experts actually know what the composition/layup of feds paintjob is and how it compares to the consumer grade k90?
It compares well. :)
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
I have a better idea....TW should add a new folder:

Dead Horse Stable

Then all the threads which have been beat to death will be logically organized. :)

** If you think it's a dead horse, then there shouldnt be a need for your 'contributions' to threads like this


And this is where you invite flak.

** It's not inviting flak...it's my considered informed opinion. it only invites flak from people like you who constantly look to flak


It is different racquet design. Just because it doesn't follow a standard of denser strings toward the middle like most other manufacturers doesn't mean it's not thoughtfully designed.

** Again..it is my opinion it is not a thoughtful design. I am entitled to this opinion

I would imagine quite the contrary, it is probably because that's the way Federer wanted it. While it may not work for masses, it seems to work for him pretty well.

** Again...assuming this is designed for Federer and a unique design, then why inflict it upon the masses, especially since it is not a very effective design for almost anyone


I've also not seen anything quantitative on how much difference a concentrated string pattern makes over an evenly spaced one, but I dare say that it's at best a tweak.

** It is far more than a tweak for an advanced player. For the average TW poster it would be a tweak at best relative to them having bigger fish to fry. At advanced levels, very small bumps in performance can make for large improvements in results





This is a very valid question...if Federer's racquet is a one-off, then how can anyone say it has a hot spot? Also, nbmj, I thought your experience with this frame was limited to one, very brief hit. And finally, one person's hot spot is another's sweetspot.

** You would be wrong about my experiences w. this racquet. . a hot spot is a hot spot

There are those who want to assign a negative connotation with a manufacturer or a racquet. In point of fact, racquets aren't good or bad, the choices we make in relation to them is bad. Some folks hate the Volkl C10 and describe it as a noodle. I love it and describe it as a friendly flex. One man's ceiling is another man's floor.

** racquets are good and bad and many places in between qualitywise. everyone should know this


There have been those who own, customize, and string Federer's racquets who say that his frame is a stock Wilson frame. It has lead tape added and his frames are selected to be very close in spec, but these folks say it's a regular frame. If this isn't good enough, I don't know what is...but the horse continues to be beaten.

** again..if you think this is beaten to death then there shouldnt be a reason for you to further beat it to death. Please find out from one of these experts what the composition/layup/stiffness of feds racquet is and how it compares to the consumer grade k90


** as above. adios
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
3-Guys with smaller sticks always say size doesnt matter. But we all know that size does matter ;)
Hmmm.....I think you've got that backwards. It's the guys with the big sticks who say that it's their natural talent and not their big racquets that make them so good since size doesn't matter. Yet, they can't hit the side of a barn with a small racquet. :oops: :)
 

flyer

Hall of Fame
federer used to use an 85 in frame, as the game and his game evolved a little bit he realized a 90 in frame would serve him better, and it did...

now as the game and his game has continued to evolve i would say that a 93 in frame would serve him better at this point, especially on clay, especially against nadal
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
This is a very valid question...if Federer's racquet is a one-off, then how can anyone say it has a hot spot? Also, nbmj, I thought your experience with this frame was limited to one, very brief hit. And finally, one person's hot spot is another's sweetspot.

There are those who want to assign a negative connotation with a manufacturer or a racquet. In point of fact, racquets aren't good or bad, the choices we make in relation to them is bad. Some folks hate the Volkl C10 and describe it as a noodle. I love it and describe it as a friendly flex. One man's ceiling is another man's floor.

There have been those who own, customize, and string Federer's racquets who say that his frame is a stock Wilson frame. It has lead tape added and his frames are selected to be very close in spec, but these folks say it's a regular frame. If this isn't good enough, I don't know what is...but the horse continues to be beaten.

And....I wish we could all make as poor equipment choices as Federer....


Great post!

I would like to add, I find it interesting that he has only hit with this frame (k90) once, and has never played with the kps88, yet somehow>>> he has so much negative things to say, and is always in threads where these two frames are being discussed. He definitely has his own agenda. Additionally, argues tooth and nail that Federer uses a completely customized frame that no one has ever playeed with,,,, YET HE SOMEHOW KNOWS HOW THAT FRAME PERFORMS. :roll: I also find it interesting he is no longer using Becker. From my account, and actually asking Boris Becker a few weeks ago, it seems Boris is more interested in selling clothes than racquets these days.

Lastly, I too would love to make such poor racquet choices as possibly the greatest player ever.


No one can relicate Nadals strokes. They are a thing of beaity....they look like a trick shot. No one except Tony can teach those shots. In fact no pro anywhere is teaching those shots....because they simmply can't.
Nadals forehand is revolutionary.


Robert Landsdorp has been teaching the reverse forehand for more than 30 years. Nothing revolutionary about it.
 
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bluegrasser

Hall of Fame
That's right ( Landsdorp) - if you look at some Tracy Austin clips, you'll see the reverse forehand, not the same degree or racquet speed of say a Nadal, but it's there.
 
having been hitting the KPS88 for more than three months with few dozen setups, the strings and tension matter the most IMO, nothing new here we all know that.

So, IMO it is not the frame, I think Fed should change strings. Talk to Nate and have him test out a dozen string setups.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
It is not the RFH, which Pete, Davenport etc have all used, but the racquet head speed and deception (DTL vs crosscourt) which make Rafa unique. I see opponents unable to judge where it is going to go till it has already landed. His accuracy in getting closer to the lines has also increased noticeably - no longer a loop ball in the middle of the court. He also makes excellent use of all parts of the racquet head in directing the shots. He makes very good use of his equipment, instead of complaining how great it might have been in the old days. Phelps uses swimwear optimized for hydrodynamics, table tennis players use the latest spin rubber technology, and so on. Top notch players don't claim greatness by hanging on to obsolete equipment and losing.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
federer used to use an 85 in frame, as the game and his game evolved a little bit he realized a 90 in frame would serve him better, and it did...

now as the game and his game has continued to evolve i would say that a 93 in frame would serve him better at this point, especially on clay, especially against nadal
By that rationale, in 25 years, all the pros would have to use 200 sq. in. racquets in order to compete. :shock:
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
It is not the RFH, which Pete, Davenport etc have all used, but the racquet head speed and deception (DTL vs crosscourt) which make Rafa unique. I see opponents unable to judge where it is going to go till it has already landed. His accuracy in getting closer to the lines has also increased noticeably - no longer a loop ball in the middle of the court. He also makes excellent use of all parts of the racquet head in directing the shots. He makes very good use of his equipment, instead of complaining how great it might have been in the old days. Phelps uses swimwear optimized for hydrodynamics, table tennis players use the latest spin rubber technology, and so on. Top notch players don't claim greatness by hanging on to obsolete equipment and losing.
Because they realize that it's only the modern equipment that makes them so great. :shock:
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Because they realize that it's only the modern equipment that makes them so great. :shock:

I don't think Phelps or Armstrong or Nadal are great because of their speedo undies or carbon fiber bikes or racquets. (Armstrong relied on other methods too hehe) Everyone has access to that equipment but these guys make the best use of it. Adapt or perish.
 
having been hitting the KPS88 for more than three months with few dozen setups, the strings and tension matter the most IMO, nothing new here we all know that.

So, IMO it is not the frame, I think Fed should change strings. Talk to Nate and have him test out a dozen string setups.


VERY interesting idea............................. CC
 
I don't think Phelps or Armstrong or Nadal are great because of their speedo undies or carbon fiber bikes or racquets. (Armstrong relied on other methods too hehe) Everyone has access to that equipment but these guys make the best use of it. Adapt or perish.

To quote Lance himself, "It's not about the bike". ;) CC
 
I am reading through the posts and trying to understand the 'why' or 'premise' here?

What is it about Fed's current state of affairs that would lead one to think he would win more matches if using a larger headed frame?

This is a sincere question.

Best,

CC
 

fps

Legend
I am reading through the posts and trying to understand the 'why' or 'premise' here?

What is it about Fed's current state of affairs that would lead one to think he would win more matches if using a larger headed frame?

This is a sincere question.

Best,

CC

i think it is the alarming nature of some of his shanks, where possibly a little extra headsize would result in these mishits going in the court. the way for instance that i saw nadal hit one today that didn't come off the middle of his racquet, pretty much framed it, but still had rochus scurrying about the court to retrieve. that shot with a 90sq racquet would have gone off the frame miles off court. small change leads to bigger change.

another idea is that having lost half a step in his movement the extra bit of size would let him retrieve and defend more difficult shots a little easier. again, 5 square inches makes almost no difference, but it might make some.

it is my opinion that, since as i understand it federer moved from an 85 to a 90 at one point in his career, because he was shanking too much, he should try in practice hitting with something a little bigger for a coupla sessions to see if going bigger is a viable option. he should also experiment with string tension etc. i hope he has, and has decided that his current racquet is the best option for planning ahead, because not trying everything to reposition the fine line between success at the very top level and failure would be a shame, IMO.
 
i think it is the alarming nature of some of his shanks, where possibly a little extra headsize would result in these mishits going in the court. the way for instance that i saw nadal hit one today that didn't come off the middle of his racquet, pretty much framed it, but still had rochus scurrying about the court to retrieve. that shot with a 90sq racquet would have gone off the frame miles off court. small change leads to bigger change.

another idea is that having lost half a step in his movement the extra bit of size would let him retrieve and defend more difficult shots a little easier. again, 5 square inches makes almost no difference, but it might make some.

it is my opinion that, since as i understand it federer moved from an 85 to a 90 at one point in his career, because he was shanking too much, he should try in practice hitting with something a little bigger for a coupla sessions to see if going bigger is a viable option. he should also experiment with string tension etc. i hope he has, and has decided that his current racquet is the best option for planning ahead, because not trying everything to reposition the fine line between success at the very top level and failure would be a shame, IMO.

Thanks. I appreciate the thoughtful response. Best, CC
 
I am reading through the posts and trying to understand the 'why' or 'premise' here?

What is it about Fed's current state of affairs that would lead one to think he would win more matches if using a larger headed frame?

This is a sincere question.

Best,

CC
like i said it is more of a setup than frame,

During the Wimb 08 he hit a shot into the net from mid court similar to when he smashed his frame, he did not have enough bat speed to finish these shots. They were shots he could have made had he been using lets say a thinner string that had more bit, that is my observation.


I am sure Breakpoint can chime in but may not agree,
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
like i said it is more of a setup than frame,

During the Wimb 08 he hit a shot into the net from mid court similar to when he smashed his frame, he did not have enough bat speed to finish these shots. They were shots he could have made had he been using lets say a thinner string that had more bit, that is my observation.


I am sure Breakpoint can chime in but may not agree,
I agree that Federer may want to test out some different string set-ups, but ultimately, I think all he really needs to do is to tighten the strings he uses now by a couple of pounds. That should help keep those forehands from flying long so often these days.
 

Chopin

Legend
I agree that Federer may want to test out some different string set-ups, but ultimately, I think all he really needs to do is to tighten the strings he uses now by a couple of pounds. That should help keep those forehands from flying long so often these days.

He should also try moving his feet! He's looked a step slower of recent days. His movement is the biggest problem with his game at the moment, along with a lack of confidence. I don't think it has anything to do with his stringing tension.
 
I agree that Federer may want to test out some different string set-ups, but ultimately, I think all he really needs to do is to tighten the strings he uses now by a couple of pounds. That should help keep those forehands from flying long so often these days.
but the ones he dumped in the net on these crucial points were not long, he should go thinner as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIPdix6aR3Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9X48FqmoJI
He should also try moving his feet! He's looked a step slower of recent days. His movement is the biggest problem with his game at the moment, along with a lack of confidence. I don't think it has anything to do with his stringing tension.
But if you are a 1/2 step slower you are not going to have clean batspeed, hence a "grippier" thinner gauge or a less demanding for a lack of better word setup might be what he needs.
 
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CANADIAN763

New User
He should also try moving his feet! He's looked a step slower of recent days. His movement is the biggest problem with his game at the moment, along with a lack of confidence. I don't think it has anything to do with his stringing tension.

I completely agree. All those frames are his footwork and what's inside his head.
 
I think this thread is begging a question.........

And that question is this: Just how big a deal is it to change frames?

Or how about this: Would it REALLY be worth the risk if you are Fed? CC
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
I am reading through the posts and trying to understand the 'why' or 'premise' here?

What is it about Fed's current state of affairs that would lead one to think he would win more matches if using a larger headed frame?

This is a sincere question.

Best,

CC


Here is my take.

These boards are filled with posters who are constantly looking for a "fix-it-all". If it ain't the frame, it's the string, or tension. They are constantly looking for a majic wand to fix their game, rather than looking at improving. Rather than place the blame on themselves, they look at an outer entity to take responsibility for their own short-comings. One must understand that "I" am perfect, and in no way would "I" lose. No way,- no-how will I ever admit to that. So what becomes the fall guy??????>>>> Its gotta be the frame>> right????

Unfortunately, we live in a society where "responsibility" is non-existent. We are always looking to blame someone/something else. Such as,,,,,, "I lost to a pusher today. I'm better than him, but he doesn't play **REAL TENNIS**, so I got bored and just became disinterested in winning." (sour grapes anyone????)


Now, onto Federer. These same posters want to bring Federer down to their level. They want to believe that since they could blame the frame, then so must Federer. It justifies their own pathetic abilities on a tennis court, and in trying very hard to believe that Federer should do the same thing they do>>> it somehow puts them on the same level as him. It doesn't occur to them that these guys (pros) are eons away from what us hackers on a tennis board could do on a tennis court. How many times has one seen threads where these same posters start threads like>>> How many games would a 5.0 get off Federer??? They seriously want to believe they are not far from what these guys could do.

Again, they somehow think that by Federer doing what they do (changing frames every few weeks), it somehow puts them on the same plane of existence, and justifies them changing frames (just like fed), rather than "owning" their ability, or lack there-of, and putting the work on the court to improve.
 
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How many times has one seen threads where these same posters start threads like>>> How many games would a 5.0 get off Federer??? .

Interesting. Good analysis Drak. The 'skills' on display! :)

BTW, a 5.0 would get "ZERO" games from Fed. I've hit with some of these guys (no where even NEAR Fed's level, but ATP pros). They are INCREDIBLE.

CC
 

bad_call

Legend
Interesting. Good analysis Drak. The 'skills' on display! :)

BTW, a 5.0 would get "ZERO" games from Fed. I've hit with some of these guys (no where even NEAR Fed's level, but ATP pros). They are INCREDIBLE.

CC

CC - glad u did the quote filtering on drakulie's post. btw - as a 4.0, i would get soooo many games if Fed played left handed :) (hope he's not ambi).
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Here is my take.

These boards are filled with posters who are constantly looking for a "fix-it-all". If it ain't the frame, it's the string, or tension. They are constantly looking for a majic wand to fix their game, rather than looking at improving. Rather than place the blame on themselves, they look at an outer entity to take responsibility for their own short-comings. One must understand that "I" am perfect, and in no way would "I" lose. No way,- no-how will I ever admit to that. So what becomes the fall guy??????>>>> Its gotta be the frame>> right????

Unfortunately, we live in a society where "responsibility" is non-existent. We are always looking to blame someone/something else. Such as,,,,,, "I lost to a pusher today. I'm better than him, but he doesn't play **REAL TENNIS**, so I got bored and just became disinterested in winning." (sour grapes anyone????)


Now, onto Federer. These same posters want to bring Federer down to their level. They want to believe that since they could blame the frame, then so must Federer. It justifies their own pathetic abilities on a tennis court, and in trying very hard to believe that Federer should do the same thing they do>>> it somehow puts them on the same level as him. It doesn't occur to them that these guys (pros) are eons away from what us hackers on a tennis board could do on a tennis court. How many times has one seen threads where these same posters start threads like>>> How many games would a 5.0 get off Federer??? They seriously want to believe they are not far from what these guys could do.

Again, they somehow think that by Federer doing what they do (changing frames every few weeks), it somehow puts them on the same plane of existence, and justifies them changing frames (just like fed), rather than "owning" their ability, or lack there-of, and putting the work on the court to improve.
Awesome post, drakulie! :)

I think this may be your best post ever (out of numerous excellent ones)!

I agree 110%. :)
 
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