Who thinks Fed would play better with a 95" racquet?
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King of Aces
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That would be too predictable
Tell that to Yanick Noah....the master of the "delayed serve and volley".
Its a great tactic.....especially on clay.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Sure we do Federer said so said he swicthed from 85 to 90.
“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me."
There is no typo this is how Federer spoke to the interviewer Miguel Seabra.
I will spoon feed KOA sentence by sentence.
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg.
Federer says here that he switched from 85 to 95 in 2002 before Hamburg.
"That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls."
Federer is saying here is the switched from 85 to 90 was a big move for him because he was shanking a lot of balls with the 85.
"Then I changed to a 90."
Federer is saying here is because of the shanking of the balls with the 85 he changed to a 90.
I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.
Federer is saying here that he requested Wilson to make a him the 90 racquet. He really likes it.
Whether you want to believe Federer is another issue but it is as clear as the nose on your face that Federer went from 85 to 90. He did not use a 95 while on the ATP Tour.
Miguel Seabra the Author of the article where that short interview took place also said that Federer went from 85 to 90. That Federer was so successful with the switch from 85 to 90 that Seabra thinks Federer should make the next move to a 95 to try to help Federer's game improve.
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804
Six years ago, a young prospect named Roger Federer took a small 5-inch step that ended up being a giant leap in his career. Now, after a dozen major titles and 234 weeks at No. 1, it may be time for another 5-inch step – one that would better equip him to face nemesis Rafael Nadal and make the most out of the second phase of his celebrated career.
No radical changes are needed, just a small but difficult one: stop using the smallest racquet frame on tour, even though it’s the one that has guided him to 12 Grand Slam titles. Federer's racquet is extremely demanding because the tiny sweet spot affords very little margin for error, and a more forgiving stick could allow him to swing a little more freely and be a confidence booster.
A GIANT 5-INCH LEAP
Back in the spring of 2002, Roger Federer felt his game was stagnating and he was shanking too many balls. He had been playing with the iconic but rather small 1984 Pro Staff model, one of the winningest frames in tennis history. With only subtle updates made over a decade and a half, the racquet with an 85 square-inch head had been used by champions such as Chris Evert, Stefan Edberg, Pete Sampras and Jim Courier.
The young Swiss had adopted the Pro Staff – used by his idols Edberg and Sampras – in the early 1990s, becoming junior world champion with it in 1998. But his game was different from his heroes’ – he was hitting his forehand with a lot more topspin than Sampras’s flat drives.
Watching Roger Federer play in his 1998 junior Wimbledon win and taking a closer look at him during a 1999 loss to Spain’s Joan Balcells in the first round of a Challenger in Espinho, Portugal, it was obvious the kid could play. His game flowed on the court and his classic style was already quite attractive, even if his tremendous racquet acceleration created the occasional mishit.
Federer’s transition to the pro tour was fairly rapid, and by the end of 2001 he was closing in on the top 10. But despite a landmark victory over Pete Sampras at Wimbledon, he had yet to make it past the quarterfinal of a Grand Slam. The following spring, he made a bold decision right in the middle of the clay court season – switching to a 90 square-inch version of the Pro Staff. The larger sweet spot allowed him to hit fewer balls off the frame and reduce his unforced errors.
The results were almost immediate. In his second tournament with the new racquet, he won Hamburg for his first Masters Series title, producing a scintillating performance in the final against then-No. 4 Marat Safin and declaring it “the best game of my life.”
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King of Aces
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Even Pete Sampras, known for his great serve and volley game, did not always come to the net behind the serve on slower courts, particularly on the second serve
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First off, your corrections. By the way, good boy for catching the "oine" in your first version of the post. For future reference, you can use the "edit" feature on the frame rather than retyping your entire post. Here we go:
<<Soderling did NOT stay back 8 out of nine times!
Generally, you do not want to combine integers with written numbers. Choose one and stick to it. In this case, the written form would have been fine, since they are single digits.
First of all he came to the net 35 times.....who else comes to the net that much on red clay against Rafael Nadal?
Second he like 68 percent or something serve winners.
Your sentence needs some kind of verb here between "he" and "like". Any kind will do for a start. How about "hit"? You might also want to get rid of the "like" which serves no purpose and sounds infantile and uneducated. Removing it will help disguise your youthful age.
No reason to come to the net if you have already won the point!!!
Third....Did you expect him to rush the net on Nadals serve games?? #5 toimes is aproximately once a serve game.
Your use of the pound sign (that's the "#",kid) is unnecessary. The second highlighted word is spelled "times"...there's that pesky rogue "o" again. Your "aproximately" (sic) is correctly spelled "approximately". To give it one "p" would make the first syllable sound like long a, as in ape.
Now subtract serve winners from that and thats a whole lot of serve and volleying on clay .
fourth....first you giys say for sopmeone to come to the net it has to be every time, then it changes to 90 percent of the time and now 50%. Make up your minds!
It should be "guys", I'm guessing, and "someone". Also, the numbers haven't changed, you've just chosen to ignore the reasonable ones. I was being generous, by calling every single net point a serve and volley, and also by allowing the minimum standard for characterizing someone as anything. When we call someone a name, it is because that is USUALLY true about them. To help you out, here are a few definitions of "usually".
normally: under normal conditions; "usually she was late"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Most of the time
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/usually
usual - That which most commonly occurs
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/usual
In order for something to be usual, it must occur more often than it doesn't. In other words more than half (or 50%) of the time. See where that came from? In Soderling's case, please see post #1552 on page 78 (that's the one before this one, which is 79) for the math in question. Soderling approached on less than 13% of points, which is in fact roughly one in nine. When you subtract one from nine you get eight, which is the number of times he did something else. Therefore, despite your confusion, even in the Nadal match, in which he came to net roughly three times as often as his other matches, he still stayed back on eight out of every nine points. Unfortunately, it's impossible to argue with math.
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King of Aces
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OK...I cant take your dishonesty....I will tray and reply quickly...although it has been discussed in full detail before over and over again....but you have no response:
1- That was taken completely out of context from a Tennis magazine article which says that Federer should switch to a 95....which by the way proves the point of this entire threrad: Federer should switch to a 95 against Nadal!
2- Obviously a typo. you dont shank balls with a 90 and then therefoe switch to a 90. What he meant to say was:
I switched from 85 to 95 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg.
That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls with the 95.
Now can we stop this circle ? How many time can you posibly post the same thing over and over again. Now thats a real TROLL!
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So, you came this far... let s hope you get the final part of the logic in all this...
Since the racquet in the pic is a Box Beam frame (flat) and 95 was more eliptic (tubular) we gather that:?
precisely...
it's a 85....
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
It is you that is being dishonest. You are bankrupt of any honesty, truthfulness, or integrity. Federer has said that he Never he used a 95 on the ATP Tour. The Author said Federer has not used a 95 the ATP Tour and needs to switch to one. That was the whole point of the Artilce. Whether ones agrees with Seabra assertions as to what racquet head size Federer should use is a different issue.
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804
And by your own admission you said the article by Miguel Seabra says Federer needs to switch to a 95 and not Federer should switched back to a 95
It was not taken out of context. The paragraph before and after was included. You have to fabricate lies to try and save some sort of face.
* I fixed your Typo
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Oh, and let me clear the water for you further. Yes, Soderling DID stay back eight out of nine times (see above post and #1552). And even if you took all his winners in the entire match....service, forehand, backhand, volley, frame, etc. (all add up to 61)...and added them to the number of times he came to net (35), it would still amount to fewer than half the points played, so there is absolutely no way to justify calling him a serve and volleyer, especially since that match saw him come to net roughly three times as often as he USUALLY (remember that word from the last post?) does.
Here are the numbers:
Total points played in the match: 271
Total Soderling winners of ANY kind off any stroke: 61
Total approaches: 35
So even if you took all his winners in the whole match off any stroke and added them to all of his approaches, he still would have only done this on about a third of the points (roughly 35% of the time to be more accurate). That means that way more than 2/3 of the time, there is no argument for saying that even in that one match he was a serve and volleyer. In his more recent matches, he only approached a third as much.
Your math is atrocious, and far worse than your already failing/abysmal language skills. Seriously, it's time to pay more attention in those classes. I'm guessing it's math class that you're using for this posting. Stay in school, don't do drugs, get a haircut. Good luck to you.
Rabbit
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OK, this is the second time you've posted this. And I have to say that it goes from the ridiculous to the sublime.
OK...according to you, he switched from an 85 square inch frame to a 95 and then began shanking? How exactly does that work and how would going to a 90 stop it? Logic would dictate that he go even larger to stop shanking wouldn't it? A 98? A 100?
Why would he go from a 95 to a 90 to STOP shanking if we left an 85 and went larger to do just that?
The fact is, the frame pictured is a Wilson ProStaff 85 painted to look like the HPS. It is not a 95 square inch frame. The construction of the frame is box and no 95 produced by Wilson had that thin a beam save for the 5.5 which Federer never used in professional competition.
Federer, since turning professional, has never used a 95 in competition. I'm sure he's tested one and there's probably a picture somewhere of him doing just that. But as far as tournament play, he hasn't used a 95.
King of Aces
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I am edting. I did not realize I was responding to rabbit. I was not respectful....one second./..........
Ok here we go:
Actually I have posted it far more than that. But certain posters (not you) keep bringing up the same point over and over again. I have tried not to repeat myself . Its been hard.
[/quote] he switched from an 85 square inch frame to a 95 and then began shanking? How exactly does that work and how would going to a 90 stop it? Logic would dictate that he go even larger to stop shanking wouldn't it? A 98? A 100?[/quote]
Well first of all if there is more frame then there could be more shanking? I remember your bro breakpoint making that point. I cannot take the credit.
Or maybe the switch from an 85 straight to a 95 was to much to soon?
Its a case of the three little bears. Goldilocks had to find the poridge that was just right. 85 was too small and 95 was to drastic of a change form 85 to 95?? 90 was just right at the time??
Its a theory....just like all of this is.
Respectfully , Its not a fact its your opinion.
Again the box beam has ben discussed a few times before....in fact some say that it was not even a box beam from the pics. Its all just speculation.....no one knows.
By the way you are talking I think you actually have some proof that Federer did in fact at least try a 95.
Anyway... some say he won his first grand slam with a 95. No one knows for sure.
My personal opinion is that Federer tried all sorts of racquets that were custom made for him . Ranging from different head sizes froim 85-95.....different handles...some extended and some shortened......I believe Federer uses a custom frames made specifically for him that cannot be bought by you and I.
I know for an absolute fact that Roger did have some custom HPS frames painted in both 90 with a custom 16 X 18 job and also HPS frame painjobs in 85.
Therefore I have a challenge for you.....If I prove the above wil you agree that there is a possibility that Federer at one time or another play with a 95 as well? Remember ....possibly.
Ok here we go:
Actually I have posted it far more than that. But certain posters (not you) keep bringing up the same point over and over again. I have tried not to repeat myself . Its been hard.
[/quote] he switched from an 85 square inch frame to a 95 and then began shanking? How exactly does that work and how would going to a 90 stop it? Logic would dictate that he go even larger to stop shanking wouldn't it? A 98? A 100?[/quote]
Well first of all if there is more frame then there could be more shanking? I remember your bro breakpoint making that point. I cannot take the credit.
Or maybe the switch from an 85 straight to a 95 was to much to soon?
Its a case of the three little bears. Goldilocks had to find the poridge that was just right. 85 was too small and 95 was to drastic of a change form 85 to 95?? 90 was just right at the time??
Its a theory....just like all of this is.
Respectfully , Its not a fact its your opinion.
Again the box beam has ben discussed a few times before....in fact some say that it was not even a box beam from the pics. Its all just speculation.....no one knows.
By the way you are talking I think you actually have some proof that Federer did in fact at least try a 95.
Anyway... some say he won his first grand slam with a 95. No one knows for sure.
My personal opinion is that Federer tried all sorts of racquets that were custom made for him . Ranging from different head sizes froim 85-95.....different handles...some extended and some shortened......I believe Federer uses a custom frames made specifically for him that cannot be bought by you and I.
I know for an absolute fact that Roger did have some custom HPS frames painted in both 90 with a custom 16 X 18 job and also HPS frame painjobs in 85.
Therefore I have a challenge for you.....If I prove the above wil you agree that there is a possibility that Federer at one time or another play with a 95 as well? Remember ....possibly.
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King of Aces
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Where exactly does he say that?? Why dont you quote the author? Or are you going to quote Fed for the upteenth time?
The article speaks for itself. It does not say the Federer never tried a 95.
It was.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Yes I know for sure. Why do you continue to lie???????? Federer won his first Grand Slam in 2003 at Wimbledon with the Pro Staff Tour 90. The Pro Staff Tour 90 again has a 16x19 string pattern.
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volleynets
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Guys this is clearly Conquistador's second conscience. One is a Fed fan. The other is a Nadal fan.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I have abou 6 times already but you won't read it.
By Miguel Seabra
Six years ago, a young prospect named Roger Federer took a small 5-inch step that ended up being a giant leap in his career. Now, after a dozen major titles and 234 weeks at No. 1, it may be time for another 5-inch step – one that would better equip him to face nemesis Rafael Nadal and make the most out of the second phase of his celebrated career.
No radical changes are needed, just a small but difficult one: stop using the smallest racquet frame on tour, even though it’s the one that has guided him to 12 Grand Slam titles. Federer's racquet is extremely demanding because the tiny sweet spot affords very little margin for error, and a more forgiving stick could allow him to swing a little more freely and be a confidence booster.
A GIANT 5-INCH LEAP
Back in the spring of 2002, Roger Federer felt his game was stagnating and he was shanking too many balls. He had been playing with the iconic but rather small 1984 Pro Staff model, one of the winningest frames in tennis history. With only subtle updates made over a decade and a half, the racquet with an 85 square-inch head had been used by champions such as Chris Evert, Stefan Edberg, Pete Sampras and Jim Courier.
The young Swiss had adopted the Pro Staff – used by his idols Edberg and Sampras – in the early 1990s, becoming junior world champion with it in 1998. But his game was different from his heroes’ – he was hitting his forehand with a lot more topspin than Sampras’s flat drives.
Watching Roger Federer play in his 1998 junior Wimbledon win and taking a closer look at him during a 1999 loss to Spain’s Joan Balcells in the first round of a Challenger in Espinho, Portugal, it was obvious the kid could play. His game flowed on the court and his classic style was already quite attractive, even if his tremendous racquet acceleration created the occasional mishit.
Federer’s transition to the pro tour was fairly rapid, and by the end of 2001 he was closing in on the top 10. But despite a landmark victory over Pete Sampras at Wimbledon, he had yet to make it past the quarterfinal of a Grand Slam. The following spring, he made a bold decision right in the middle of the clay court season – switching to a 90 square-inch version of the Pro Staff. The larger sweet spot allowed him to hit fewer balls off the frame and reduce his unforced errors.
The results were almost immediate. In his second tournament with the new racquet, he won Hamburg for his first Masters Series title, producing a scintillating performance in the final against then-No. 4 Marat Safin and declaring it “the best game of my life.”
The following year he became Wimbledon champion and soon afterwards started an unparalleled run at the top of the rankings, seducing everyone with his smooth technique and exquisite timing.
There was still the occasional shanked shot, of course, particularly when he was trying to impart 4,400 rpm on his topspin forehand. After all, even with the 90 square-inch head, he was still playing with the smallest stick on the tour. Other Wilson players currently on the tour choose midsize versions between 93 and 98 square inches, and the average size of the racquets on tour is leaning towards 100 square inches.
No where does Seabra say Federer used a 95. Seabra says that Federer used a 85 and now a 90. Seabra says Federer should switch to a larger racquet than 90.
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volleynets
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I counted 18.- that could only be the 95" version because the 90 did NOT have a 16x 18 string pattern!!!
HAHAHA PWNED! You said it has 18 so has to be the 95! GUESS WHAT! That is the 85! This brainless attempt to refute my valid argument confirms that KOA did not even know the 85 had the 16x18 pattern or even knows what he is talking about!
And I posted the pic of Federer's 90 that had 19 which proves it is not an 85 or 95 version. You Failed yourself! Iphone! No wonder! He posts these brainless posts straight out of his classroom!
LIES!!! Iphone auto corrects spelling there is NO way he would spell words that badly with it.
Guys he is probably failing all of his classes because of these replies in this thread. Lets leave him alone huh? KOA pay attention in classes!
volleynets
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vs babolat it is okay! You have posted these articles at least 100 times. You could post 100 page long proof to no avail. He just still wont get it. We have already proven that we are correct. Everyone but KOA knows this now who has read the thread.
Who cares if KOA doesnt believe us! Everyone who reads is not as thick skulled as him to argue when we have provided evidence.
Furthermore people who have read this thread not knowing of Fed's racket now know! And if we do convince KOA then what? We all know how intelligent he is so lets just leave it at that. Im with LPShanet, lets let him focus on classes instead of posting here on his phone and leave him alone. We already won the argument with a load of picture and other evidence!
King of Aces
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Its embarrassing already. I wish he would stop.
Anyway, with all the repeating my challenge has been ignored.
Again if I can prove to you that Federer played with an HPS paintjob of both an 85 and a 90 inch custom frame HPS paintjob will you then kindly admit that there is at least a possibility that Federer tried a 95 inch frame as well?
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volleynets
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What you are doing here is nothing short of embarassing.
Ok Maybe he hit with one in the process of switching but HE NEVER PLAYED A MATCH OR WON A GRAND SLAM WITH ONE. Will you at least admit that?
King of Aces
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My position is even less than that!!
All i am proposing is that he MIGHT have played with a 95.
But even the mere suggestion of that possibilty has driven some into a mad frenzy and they forget what this entire post was all about.
The issue here is : who thinks federer should try and play with a 95 ?
Answer: A whole lot of people and a whoooooole lot more people will agree if federer happens to lose the FO yet again.
Tune in on Sunday!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
My position is even less than that!!
All i am proposing is that he MIGHT have played with a 95.
But even the mere suggestion of that possibilty has driven some into a mad frenzy and they forget what this entire post was all about.
The issue here is : who thinks federer should try and play with a 95 ?
Answer: A whole lot of people and a whoooooole lot more people will agree if federer happens to lose the FO yet again.
Tune in on Sunday!
More lies!! Or are you now changing your story??
You are bankrupt of any honesty, integrity or consistency.
King of Aces
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Changing my position. As I have said about 500 times. i keep saying over and over again that i believe its all speculation. i also gave my personal opinion before.
I got a bit excited when I fact first saw federer playing with a 95. In the photo it appears that he is clearly playing with a 95.
But after weighing all of the evidence I am now just not sure whether the 95 was actually a paint job or not.
I do know for a fact that Federer did actually use a HPS paint job with a 16 x 18 pattern and a 90 inch. which means it was a custom job. He also did play with a 90 inch version.
However , having said that I still do not know if Federer actually ever tried a 95. its speculation at this point. no one really knows.
King of Aces
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I just dont know the answer. He has played with so many custom paint jobs that I just dont know.
Like i said I can prove that federer did in fact play with an HPS 90 16 x 18 pattern. There is no such racquet like that on the market.
By the way federer also played with a custom HPS 85 inch racquet!!!!
So who is to say that he never actually played with the 95 inch???? We just dont know!!
The bottom line is that federer plays with custom racquets that no one has actually ever seen before. i know that for a fact because i know someone who actually has some of the HPS racquets that federer actually played with....and they are by all reports both 85 & 90 !!
But that is not to say he never tried a 95 either! We just dont know.
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Here is a picture of Equijet's collection
CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE between the regular 95, and Fed's 85 and 90?
King of Aces
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I don't even understand what's going on in this thread but, isn't this a box beam?
http://web.archive.org/web/20030401233514/www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-TOUR95.html
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please be so kind as to look at Equijet's pictures an see the diference in the shape of the beam of the last frame in the picture where he overlays them...
Do yo notice the flatter edgier shape of the frame in the first two whereas the third one is rounder?
get it now?
King of Aces
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You see federer used 85,90, and 95 possibly.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
You would be wrong. i know it for a fact that they come in various sizes!!!!! heres a little tease for you my little mosquito.....
These are actually from a stock of some of Rogers stciks that he actually played with. the real deal. And they have been measured to be of varying head sizes.
Please note the Roger Federer signature on them. The ones in the store do not have that.....enjoy bug boy:
Those are Equijet's photos and racquets that she got from Federer!!!!!!! I have posted thses photos many times!!!!!!
If you are talking about this photo:
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Recently, I strung one of those 90sq in RF rackets with the babolat team gut at 60lbs and I felt its specs really similar to K90.
The above racquet is a Tour 90 with a string pattern of 16x19!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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King of Aces
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PLUS.. does anyone else notice the Grey W in the frame Federer Uses and the Grey W in the 85 frame, whereas the rest are yellow?
I counted 18.- that could only be the 95" version because the 90 did NOT have a 16x 18 string pattern!!!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
No...this one...its 16 x 18 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
You Are the one who continually repeats themselves. For the 100th time now that is a Pro Staff 85 with the paint job of the Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95.
King of Aces
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Difference is i was responding as to a picture...besides dont blame Gorecki for posting the pic..
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Difference is i was responding as to a picture...besides dont blame Gorecki for posting the pic..
what.. the pic you posted and the one you claim to be proof that Fed used a 95?
another lie?
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King of Aces
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I dont claim he did or did not use one. I just dont know.
You are certainly posting a lot for someone who doesn't know. :lol:
TENNISSLAVE
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Federer is doin just fine with his small headed racket .. 19 slam finals .. dude.. the guys a gem.
swedechris
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His swings are used to the small head size he has always used, so IMO its not a good idea to change to a 95 or bigger for him.
volleynets
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No...this one...its 16 x 18 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
?YOU IDIOT! The GREY W IN THIS FRAME MEANS IT IS THE 85!!!!!! LOOK AT THE RACKET! It IS THE 85 WITH 18 MAINS! NOTICE EVERY PICTURE WHERE THE TWO W ARE YELLOW THAT HE HAS 19 MAINS! YOU HAVE NOW FAILED! THIS CONFIRMS FED USED THE 85 WITH 18 MAINS THEN SWITCHED TO THE CUSTOM 90 WITH 19 MAINS! This CONFIRMS HE NEVER USED THE 95.!!!
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volleynets
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When you don't know. Don't argue with those that do. thank you for Finally reading equijet's thread even though I gave you the link like 100 posts ago. You are the most delusional poster on the forums by far.
King of Aces
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Is it not possible to play with a grey W and have a 95 inch frame?
This actually confirms that we dont know what Federer actually used.
I would also respectfully request to refrain from personal attack in an attempt to bully me into agreeing with you.
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volleynets
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Really how do you arrive at that conclusion. Is it not possible to play with a grey W and have a 95 inch frame?
This actually confirms that we dont know what Federer actually used.
in 2002 Fed first used this 85 with 18 mains and the grey W then the custom 90 paintjob with the yellow W. The pictures are in Equijet's thread. I have never met anyone as stubborn as you. Do you even PLAY tennis? Do you even OWN a racket? You think people shank more with bigger frames. Have you ever even HELD a tennis racket?
Fed actually used the 85 from Equijet's thread and that 85 has a grey W. Federer's picture with 18 crosses that you provided has that picture of the 85 since the W is grey. Why is confirmation that fed is using an 85 in that pic mean to you that we do NOT confirm what Federer used. It is the opposite you tree stump. You basically confirmed that you fail with that pic because you said that pic has 18 crosses and yo utried to show us that the 85 is the 95. LIAR!
Equijet has Federer's real frames and that 85 has the grey. The pic you posted basically doomed any argument you had. You basically tried to say that the pic I posted with 19 mains was a 90 and your pic was the 95 when you posted the pic of the 85. Go compare it with the frame with the Grey W in Equijet's pictures tool.
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Really, how do you arrive at that conclusion? Is it not possible to play with a grey W and have a 95 inch frame?
This actually confirms that we dont know what Federer actually used.
Aside from the missing comma and question mark (which I've inserted for your benefit above), I think we can clear up a lot of the problems on this thread by pointing out that you simply have a poor command of your pronouns. So when you say "This actually confirms that we don't know what Federer actually used.", what you really mean is "This actually confirms that I dont know what Federer actually used." Problem solved.
Just another case for the advice that you might want to: Stay in school, don't do drugs, get a haircut. Good luck to you, kid.
volleynets
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I made this nice powerpoint slide for our good friend, King of Aces, just in case he wants to use it for his class.
You forgot to put 18 arrows, one to each cross, so that the 4th grader doesn't state that he counted 20 mains in there and therefore it must be a 100 head racket that "Federer never said he didn't use".
King of Aces
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The pictures you have above are simply Chinese paintjobs , and they do not necessarily represent all the racquets out there.
It is still possible that Federer used a 95 inch racquet with a grey "W".
Your evidence is very good but its merely circumstantial.
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It is still possible that Federer used a 95 inch racquet with a grey "W".
Your evidence is very good but its merely circumstantial.
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What do you mean by "simply Chinese paintjobs" ?
The great Chinese people make tennis rackets to satisfy tennis fans throughout the world.
You got something against Chinese people ? What's wrong with you ?
