who will be the next player to beat Rafael Nadal at Roland Garros and what will be the year?

Raphael Nadal

Professional
i don't see Thiem doing it, because they've played 3 times at Roland Garros and Thiem has never taken a set!
Djokovic, no way, because Rafael almost beat him at Wimbledon of all places:)
Who and when?
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
i think if Rafael wins AO then his hunger for Roland Garros will reduce, so it might happen (again, same as 2009) in a year he wins AO:)
then again, he might be extra hungry when he's about to equal/overtake Federer's 20 slam record.....
 

zuluzazu

Rookie
But out of all players currently the djoker has the highest odds of beating rafa at rg. I dont see that happening however unless a young gun comes blazing in 2020 with an all court game and nadal is 80% of his ability.
 

Yugram

Hall of Fame
Hard to say, but I definitely see RG final Nadal vs Schwartzman this year. And somehow this matchup is terrible for Nadal.
 

TripleATeam

Legend
Never. Nadal wins every edition of it until 2040. He'll retire from everything but RG, just being the troll under the bridge that comes out to lift the trophy. In 2049, RG will switch to a different brand of clay and Nadal will retire in protest.
 

reaper

Legend
Never. Nadal wins every edition of it until 2040. He'll retire from everything but RG, just being the troll under the bridge that comes out to lift the trophy. In 2049, RG will switch to a different brand of clay and Nadal will retire in protest.
I've never understood why they didn't change the court at Roland Garros. Which French player did they think had a chance against Nadal on the red brick?
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
It will happen in 2015. I predict that Novak will take out Rafa prior to the final (perhaps as early as the QF) but then end up losing in the final to some obscure player.

EDIT: Oops, sorry. Just got up from a very long nap. Scratch that prediction. It will never happen like that.
 
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Raphael Nadal

Professional
In 2015:
Rafael lost to Berrer at Doha.
Rafael lost to Berdych at Australian Open 62 60 76 - ending the longest winning streak one man has ever had over another man.
Rafael lost to Fognini at Rio, Barcelona and US Open, and 2015 remains the only year Fognini ever beat Rafael.
Rafael lost to Raonic at Indian Wells and Verdasco at Miami.
Rafael lost to Murray at Madrid, in straight sets.
Rafael lost to Wawrinka at Rome, in straight sets.
So of course Rafael got destroyed by Djokovic at Roland Garros:)
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Only Thiem, Djokovic and Schwartzmann in a cloudy day stand a chance.
Schwartzmann hasn't got one chance in a million. He's never come close to beating Rafa and has only taken two sets off him in 5 meetings. Yeah, he won one set from Rafa at RG in 2018, but then was steamrolled. He hasn't got anywhere near the mental strength to beat Nadal at the French Open.

The hardest thing to do in tennis since 2004 is to defeat Nadal at RG. Diego is 26 years old and has won exactly 2 titles in his career. He is not beating Nadal in a slam unless Rafa is 45 years old or in an iron lung.
 

Imperator

Professional
i don't see Thiem doing it, because they've played 3 times at Roland Garros and Thiem has never taken a set!
Djokovic, no way, because Rafael almost beat him at Wimbledon of all places:)
Who and when?
And Djokovic almost beat him at RG 6 years ago. So I don’t see why Djoko wouldn’t be able to beat a weaker version of Nadal now. Not to mention he already did it 4 years ago (Nadal was clearly out of form but who’s to say that won’t be the case at next RG ?).
 

Yugram

Hall of Fame
Soderling ate a breadstick and bagels before RG 09.
None of Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev, Coric have Robin’s blasting shots. And it’s debatable would Nadal lose to Soderling in 2009 if not that extreme 4 hour match against Djokovic in Madrid or not.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
None of Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev, Coric have Robin’s blasting shots. And it’s debatable would Nadal lose to Soderling in 2009 if not that extreme 4 hour match against Djokovic in Madrid or not.
LOL. Nadal does not need that much recovery time even at this age. Did you see him at Wimb SF 2018 after the QF episode against Delpo ? Did you see him beat Bashilas, Khachanov and then fight against Thiem for 5 sets at USO 18 ?
 

Sport

Legend
And Djokovic almost beat him at RG 6 years ago. So I don’t see why Djoko wouldn’t be able to beat a weaker version of Nadal now. Not to mention he already did it 4 years ago (Nadal was clearly out of form but who’s to say that won’t be the case at next RG ?).
Djokovic is also a weaker version tan 6 years ago. Or is Nadal the only one who ages?
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
And Djokovic almost beat him at RG 6 years ago. So I don’t see why Djoko wouldn’t be able to beat a weaker version of Nadal now. Not to mention he already did it 4 years ago (Nadal was clearly out of form but who’s to say that won’t be the case at next RG ?).
we just saw Djokovic need 5 sets to beat Rafael at Wimbledon, so whatever happened in that rivalry is not good for Djokovic at Roland Garros:)
 

Yugram

Hall of Fame
LOL. Nadal does not need that much recovery time even at this age. Did you see him at Wimb SF 2018 after the QF episode against Delpo ? Did you see him beat Bashilas, Khachanov and then fight against Thiem for 5 sets at USO 18 ?
I think his knee problems became worse after this match. It should have been Nadalovic final at 09 RG, yet none of them recovered after Madrid.
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
if Rafael has a big serve he be harder to beat than ever before:)
“We’re looking to maximise damage from the onset, and one way to do that is with a faster, more aggressive serve,” Moya told ATPTour.com following his afternoon practice session with Nadal. “We’ve been working out the mechanics of his serve; his motion now is more fluid. Before, the ball he served lost power immediately after bouncing. That isn’t the case anymore; his serve maintains speed now after making contact with the court, making it that much more potent.”

According to Moya, the idea to alter Nadal’s service swing was conceived following Nadal’s semi-final showdown against Juan Martin del Potro at the 2018 US Open. Nadal was forced to retire from that match while trailing 6-7(3), 2-6 due to a knee tendon injury. Nadal and his team identified the slight weakness in his serve and devised a plan to improve the motion.

“These changes came following that match at the US Open,” Moya said. “Rafa was all for the changes, even if meant added work.

“He was the first to identify the weakness in his serve, and we as a team formulated an approach to improve it. We were sidetracked [in late 2018] because of the abdominal injury and the right ankle surgery but finally got around to physically working out the new service motion after recovery. I’m happy to say he’s now comfortable with the revamped serve motion.”
 

Imperator

Professional
Djokovic is also a weaker version tan 6 years ago. Or is Nadal the only one who ages?
Yes but the difference is Nadal relies much more on his physical abilities, his style is entirely based on it.

we just saw Djokovic need 5 sets to beat Rafael at Wimbledon, so whatever happened in that rivalry is not good for Djokovic at Roland Garros:)
That doesn’t mean anything because Nadal also needed 5 sets to beat Djoko on clay in 2013 and that had no bearing on the rest of the season. By your logic, Djokovic should have easily defeated Nadal at USO 2013 but that’s not what happened.
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
Yes but the difference is Nadal relies much more on his physical abilities, his style is entirely based on it.



That doesn’t mean anything because Nadal also needed 5 sets to beat Djoko on clay in 2013 and that had no bearing on the rest of the season. By your logic, Djokovic should have easily defeated Nadal at USO 2013 but that’s not what happened.
if you listened to what Rafael said at the start of 2013, his doctor told him that his leg would be stiff for the first half of the year, and that's why Rafael played his best tennis in the 2nd half of the year and won Canada, Cincy and US Open:)
 

Imperator

Professional
if you listened to what Rafael said at the start of 2013, his doctor told him that his leg would be stiff for the first half of the year, and that's why Rafael played his best tennis in the 2nd half of the year and won Canada, Cincy and US Open:)
He was very good at RG too.
 

Zardoz7/12

Professional
Sooner than later Nadal will "pass the torch" on Clay, who? I don't know but there's going to be a newcomer who beats Nadal at the French Open like Federer beat Sampras at Wimbledon.
 

BGod

Legend
Novak will beat him in the final this year. Then he'll come back and win it in 2020 and wouldn't surprise me if again in 2021.
 

Sport

Legend
Novak will beat him in the final this year. Then he'll come back and win it in 2020 and wouldn't surprise me if again in 2021.
Let me guess your optimistic prediction: Nadal will never win another Grand Slam and Djokovic will not surpass Federer's GS count despite winning 3 more RG.:-D
 
The better question is: can Nadal keeps his clay legacy going and is his style of play sustainable on clay as he is getting older?
 

Imperator

Professional
Nadal has declined less tan Djokovic on clay so far. We will see next year.
That’s because Djokovic wasn’t himself in 2017 and 2018. Just like Nadal wasn’t himself in 2015.

Why next year though ? Why not this year ?
 

Sport

Legend
That’s because Djokovic wasn’t himself in 2017 and 2018. Just like Nadal wasn’t himself in 2015.

Why next year though ? Why not this year ?
I mean this year. Well, Djokovic was already in better shape at RG 2018 than AO 2018. Not so great as WB 2018 though.
 

BGod

Legend
Let me guess your optimistic prediction: Nadal will never win another Grand Slam and Djokovic will not surpass Federer's GS count despite winning 3 more RG.:-D
I've posted my predictions on the next 2 years a lot, although I might chance on the USO they've been pretty consistent:

2019
Novak
Novak
Cilic
del Potro

2020
Shapovalov
Nadal
Shapovalov
Zverev


And I'm not a Novak basher so I don't have a problem if he somehow gets the GS record.
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
2019, by one of Djokovic/Zverev/Thiem/Tsitsipas/Nishikori.

I think Nadal is not making RG19 finals.
I could be badly wrong, but we'll know in 5 months. ;)
 

Raphael Nadal

Professional
2019, by one of Djokovic/Zverev/Thiem/Tsitsipas/Nishikori.

I think Nadal is not making RG19 finals.
I could be badly wrong, but we'll know in 5 months. ;)
i'm surprised you included Thiem in the dangerous group, considering he's never taken a set in 3 matches vs Rafael at RG:)
what about 2020 Roland Garros?
 
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