Who will be top 10?

Who is going to be top 10?

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So 1-5 look like as if they got things wrapped up but what about the lower half of the top 10....So I figure this would be a good discussion and here is a poll consisting of guys from 6-13

So just a quick thing to look at it
6. Nikolay Davydenko - Davy has missed again a good amount of the season on injury after starting off as the hottest player on tour most would feel and now it is almost time where he usually catches fire. However he is not looking good at all. Its a bit iffy for him for the rest of the season. He however has always pulled through. However his end of season is so top heavy with a masters and the world tour finals to defend and lets not forget if he isn't top 8 he is not defending any of those points. So I think really what it comes down to is if Nikolay can stay in the top 8 which at this point shouldn't be too bad I feel as long as he can make a good run in two of the remaining masters and win a small title. However if he fails that it is safe to say poor Davy will fall out of the top 10 as if he is 9 and can't defend the 1300 points from the WTF he will definitely be well out of the top 10.

7. Tomas Berdych - On the contrary to Davy right now he has tons of points from the start of the season and not to mention he is playing strong as of late. I think Berdych is fine and really can only add points as there is not much defense he is doing.

8. Fernando Verdasco - Well if he keeps losing to guys he should be beating he is definitely going to be in tough luck. He hasn't scored a win on a guy in the top 20 since Rome and it seems like Almagro might have done him in. He boldly declared he could beat almost anyone on clay but Rafa but then suffered losses to a handful of other guys and just over scheduled and came out with nothing in France. Since then he just has been losing to tons of guys he should be beating including an embarassing first round loss to Fogini at wimbledon in which he couldn't even break the Italains serve. He might squeeze in the top 10 because of his strong early season but he has a lot of work to do to stay in the top 8.

9 - Juan Martin Del Potro - Unless he comes back and goes on a tear and makes the finals of the US Open he is most likely out.

10 - Jo Willy - You never know with him. He's up and he's down. His recent injury has been a set back and his status for the US Open seems to remain up in the air. If he can come back healthy in time and do well he stands a good chance to remain. The rest of the year is on his best surface hardcourts and the new surface in Shanghai should favor his game so hopefully he can make it to there. But again it's up in the air.

11 - David Ferrer - Had he not screwed up in France he would be there now but he did so it's his fault. However he stands a good chance with very little points to defend going into the late part of the season and a handful of guys above him playing really inconsistently I don't see why he can't do it. He just has to make a 4R at the US and 2 QF and that should at least get him to 10 if not higher depending on how Jo Willy and JMDP do.

12 - Marin Cilic - It's not January or February so it almost seems like it is guaranteed for Marin Cilic to vanish. He's probably going to take a point hit in the US Open since with the way he has been playing since February he would be lucky to see round 3.

13 - Andy Roddick - When was the last time Roddick stayed out of the top 10 this long. What's strange is he has probably been playing better than most of these guys all season just missed too much play time and lost one wrong match. (The match with LU) However Roddick stands a great chance. He definitely is more experienced than most of the guys on this list and definitely wants its bad. He has little points to defend in one of his favorite parts of the year. Hopefully you gets behind that home crowd and can finally shake off that tough wimbledon loss. He's gotta go big though in Cincy and the US Open or he is going to miss the top 10 for the first time since 2001...

Sorry I left out the other option post if you feel other though with who it is.
 
Berdych
Roddick
Ferrer
Verdasco

(in that approximate order, Verdasco scraping in because Tsonga is injured and DelPo won't be able to win enough points on his return from injury)

Berdych possibly being as high as #4 for the YEC's
 
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Roddick is goner, he's staying out of the top 10 for the foreseeable future. Somewhat his fault considering he somehow is aloud to skip the clay season year after year.
 
wilfreb said:
where in Nalbandian?
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However well Nalby has played lately, the fact of the matter is that due to injury, he's been non-existent for 2/3 the season already.

@Rovex, I disagree.

Look at the guys around him, most are living off points from the end of last year while Roddick isn't defending a whole lot anymore. He picked up that Win and R/U in the US HC masters in the early part of the year, and there's no doubt that he'll be a decent bet for 1/4s at any of the remaining HC events where he gets even a slightly favourable draw.
 
Berdych for sure. He only has a couple hundred points to defend till the end of year.

Ferrer, Verdasco and Roddick should be there as well due to the good amount of points gained this season. They are good enough on HC to earn enough points in the remaining of the season unless they have a slump.

The last place is up for grabs. Jo has a good shot at it if he comes back strong from his injury. Cilic if he comes out of his slump. But any player who gets hot in the indoor season could take it. Kolya or Nalby for instance.

Edit: Kolya should take advantage of his seeding. Even if he has a lot of points to defend, he won't be facing the top guys as early as lower ranked players.
 
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rovex said:
Roddick is goner, he's staying out of the top 10 for the foreseeable future. Somewhat his fault considering he somehow is aloud to skip the clay season year after year.
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Roddick is defending 110 points for the rest of the year....Actually for the guys listed

Davydenko defending 3180 points
Berdych defending 605 points
Verdasco defending 900 points
Del Potro defending 2990 points
Tsonga defending 1050 points
Cilic defending 945 points
Roddick is defending 110 points...

If Roddick does the following
-Wins or Finals at one of the 500s
-Makes at least QF of US Open
-QF or better at the 3 remaining master series
-Wins a 250
Point gain: 1340-1540

He will easily be back in the top 10, considering he is only a couple hundered away and if he can do that and gain about 1200 to 1300 points that would easily shoot him back into the top 8 where he belongs. Realizing none of these are extreme goals as you can expect Fed and Nadal to skip out the late part of the year 500s and he does well against most of the rest of the top 10 exception to Davy on hardcourts. Depending on who he draws in the US Open if he is not back in the top 8 (most likely) it shouldn't be too bad to get the QF. Right now he is in a good position to draw any of Soderling, Berdych, Davy or Dasco. Now Berdych and Sod are tough draws but if he can get Davy or Dasco with their recent form that shouldn't be too bad for him. Though I still don't think he would be rattled by getting Berdych or Sod in R4 and he can probably handle them it won't be a given.

The QF of 3 of the remaining master series shouldn't be bad again a handful of guys skip Shanghai and Paris so he can expect a higher seeding then his ranking all he has to do is show up for once there. Though something tells me this year we can expect to see most of the top playing them with Fed determined to win back the number 1 ranking but if Fed does not win the US Open he will most likely skip as he can't get the number 1 then. If he can bring himself back into the top 10 after the US Open staying there will be no problem I feel.
 
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Look, Roddick hasnt played very well, but people forget, that hes skipped 4 of the 7 masters so far this year. yes he sucks at MC, but hes a two time SFist at Rome, made QF at Madrid last year, and was a former champ of Canada.

Its been confirmed that he had slight mono, so it makes sense that his plays been down since he came back from his season off.
 
rovex said:
Roddick is goner, he's staying out of the top 10 for the foreseeable future. Somewhat his fault considering he somehow is aloud to skip the clay season year after year.
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Haha, you probably haven't looked at the ATP Race lately, where Roddick is 7th. I have a tough time believing Roddick will fall 4 slots to #11 when the end of the year comes.

Roddick has very few points to defend from here on out on the year, so look for Roddick to be top 8 by the end of the year. If not, easily top 10.
 
Commando Tennis Shorts said:
Haha, you probably haven't looked at the ATP Race lately, where Roddick is 7th. I have a tough time believing Roddick will fall 4 slots to #11 when the end of the year comes.

Roddick has very few points to defend from here on out on the year, so look for Roddick to be top 8 by the end of the year. If not, easily top 10.
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Yea I find it odd he is actually as low as 13 considering how well he has been playing. Amazing how many guys are top heavy on the end of the season.
 
^^^Agreed. It makes sense, though, because most of the top guys don't put in a whole lot of tournament work in the months following the U.S. Open, while the lower-ranked guys do b/c they're trying to grab as many points as possible. The result is lower-ranked guys winning Masters and 500 tournaments at the end of the season.

If you ask me, I think a lot of the mid-range top guys (like #5-#10) would benefit from playing more post-U.S. Open tournaments. Pick up some "easy" points and give yourself some wiggle room for the beginning of the next calendar year.
 
batz said:
12 bajillion. That's how many points you get for winning the USO in the parallel universe where Ernie wins it.
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+1.

I think Berdych is sure of a place in the top 10. The others are a bit more difficult, but I hope it goes like this:

Berdych
Davydenko
Cilic
Roddick
xxxxxx, which means anyone but Verdasco.

I fear this will be NOT the case, and I fear Verdasco might actually climb in the rankings. But oh well, time will tell.
 
batz said:
12 bajillion. That's how many points you get for winning the USO in the parallel universe where Ernie wins it.
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in the Universe of Unrealized Potential he is No. 1.
So, the more he loses in this universe, his ranking increases in the UUP.
 
Commando Tennis Shorts said:
^^^Agreed. It makes sense, though, because most of the top guys don't put in a whole lot of tournament work in the months following the U.S. Open, while the lower-ranked guys do b/c they're trying to grab as many points as possible.
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I don't know what you mean by "lower-ranked" guys. THe only ones who would care are the top 8 (or 7) who are trying to qualify for YEC, no?

In any, case the statement is false - at least as it pertains to last year. The YEC entrants - including those who had qualified by or after the US Open, all played multiple 500/250's in the months following USO
 
samjones said:
In any, case the statement is false - at least as it pertains to last year. The YEC entrants - including those who had qualified by or after the US Open, all played multiple 500/250's in the months following USO
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Not true a handful of times a top guy skips, Fed did it a lot in his prime look at 04-06 he skipped Paris all three years and Madrid in two of them. Roddick actually usually does the same. Murray skipped Shanghai as well last year. It's not a ton but usually two top seeds are missing from the later year end master series and are not around as much. Though things are changing with the new ATP rules.

Yes Roddick is now back in the top 10. Congrats on the good wins this week for Andy.
 
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