Who will end up with more Masters 1000 titles? Federer or Djokovic?

Who will win more Masters by the end of their career?

  • Novak will stay at 15.

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  • Novak and Roger will end up with the same number of Masters titles.

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powerangle

Legend
Federer is in the lead 21-15 at this point. But it looks like Fed may be getting at most a total of 1 or 2 more of these titles...he's really been slowing down a lot this last half a year or so. Djokovic looks good to capture 1 or 2 of these per year for the next few years. He can have a "good" year too and maybe grab 3 of these in a year (possibly more)...and he will soon surpass Roger's Masters count.

Who do you think will end his career with more Masters 1000 titles?

I'd give the edge to Novak at this point.
 
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powerangle

Legend
Huge gap between Djokovic and Murray, and Murray and the rest (since 2000):

1) Nadal - 26
2) Federer - 21
3) Djokovic - 15
4) Murray - 9
5) Davydenko - 3

Since 1970 (relative equivalents to Masters 1000 titles included):
1) Nadal - 26
2) Lendl - 22
3) Federer - 21
4) McEnroe - 19
5) Connors - 17
5) Agassi - 17
7) Bjorg - 15
7) Djokovic - 15
9) Becker - 13
10) Sampras - 11
11) Laver - 9
11) Murray - 9
13) Edberg - 8
13) Muster - 8
13) Wilander - 8
16) Chang - 7
16) Natase - 7
16) Vilas - 7
19) Orantes - 6
20) Courier - 5
20) Rios - 5
20) Kuerten - 5
20) Safin - 5
20) Roddick -5
25) Smith - 4
25) Medvedev - 4
25) Ferrero - 4
 
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tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
Since Federer is supposed to be the GOAT and since Federer owns 17 grand slams, can someone explain why Djokovic is probably gonna win more master 1000 ?

And also why Nadal at 27 owns RIGHT now more Master 1000 than Federer?


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Who Am I?

Banned
Since Federer is supposed to be the GOAT and since Federer owns 17 grand slams, can someone explain why Djokovic is probably gonna win more master 1000 ?

And also why Nadal at 27 owns RIGHT now more Master 1000 than Federer?


4000 posts
No grass masters. If Federer had the luxury of having 3 masters per year on his favourite surface like Nadal does, he would be leading the masters count as well and by a good margin too.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Since Federer is supposed to be the GOAT and since Federer owns 17 grand slams, can someone explain why Djokovic is probably gonna win more master 1000 ?

And also why Nadal at 27 owns RIGHT now more Master 1000 than Federer?


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Because Masters aren't that important?
 

Morj

Semi-Pro
No grass masters. If Federer had the luxury of having 3 masters per year on his favourite surface like Nadal does, he would be leading the masters count as well and by a good margin too.
Fed is also the king of hard.... He's statistically the best HC player of all time. The majority of Masters 1000 are on Hard, which is also Nadal's worst surface so lets not make excuses.
 

timnz

Legend
Outdoor hard

Fed is also the king of hard.... He's statistically the best HC player of all time. The majority of Masters 1000 are on Hard, which is also Nadal's worst surface so lets not make excuses.
Outdoor Hard is Nadal's second best surface not his worst. Fyi indoor is where Nadal has struggled the most. But there is only 1 indoor Masters 1000 - Paris.
 

Kenshin

Semi-Pro
Outdoor Hard is Nadal's second best surface not his worst. Fyi indoor is where Nadal has struggled the most. But there is only 1 indoor Masters 1000 - Paris.
Since Nadal's two early exits from Wimbledon, I think you maybe right. However, Grass used to be his second best surface because he made five Wim finals winning two of them.
 

Who Am I?

Banned
Fed is also the king of hard.... He's statistically the best HC player of all time. The majority of Masters 1000 are on Hard, which is also Nadal's worst surface so lets not make excuses.
Federer is great on hards but he is better on grass. And out of 9 Masters, 5 of them are on slower surface which obviously favours Nadal more than Roger. I ain't making excuses, just stating facts.
 

timnz

Legend
Since Nadal's two early exits from Wimbledon, I think you maybe right. However, Grass used to be his second best surface because he made five Wim finals winning two of them.
In looking at his record - he has always been strong on Slow Outdoor Hard. Things have moved in his favour by most Outdoor hard events approaching clay speeds. Hence, outdoor hard is his second favourite surface. In history though - he has always been relatively weak (though as good as player as he is - he's not weak anywhere) indoor. Indoor has always been his weakest surface/conditions.
 

timnz

Legend
Huge gap between Djokovic and Murray, and Murray and the rest (since 2000):

1) Nadal - 26
2) Federer - 21
3) Djokovic - 15
4) Murray - 9
5) Davydenko - 3

Since 1970 (relative equivalents to Masters 1000 titles included):
1) Nadal - 26
2) Lendl - 22
3) Federer - 21
4) McEnroe - 19
5) Connors - 17
5) Agassi - 17
7) Bjorg - 15
7) Djokovic - 15
9) Becker - 13
10) Sampras - 11
11) Laver - 9
11) Murray - 9
13) Edberg - 8
13) Muster - 8
13) Wilander - 8
16) Chang - 7
16) Natase - 7
16) Vilas - 7
19) Orantes - 6
20) Courier - 5
20) Rios - 5
20) Kuerten - 5
20) Safin - 5
20) Roddick -5
25) Smith - 4
25) Medvedev - 4
25) Ferrero - 4
This misses Laver's 68 and 69 years - if you include those, Laver is on around 14 or 15 Masters 1000 equivalents - with all or most of them occurring after his 30th Birthday. No one will approach that record (most after 30 years of age).
 

Tenez101

Banned
It would take some kind of freakish occurrence to prevent Novak from winning at least 8 more masters. I don't think Federer will win more than a couple more, so Djokovic will be in second behind Rafa when all's said and done.
 
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