Who will go deeper in a slam this year: Murray or Noél?

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Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
EZ question. Who will record the best result at a single slam in 2018: the Haggis King or the Mighty Peace & Love Advocate?

In Novak's favor: He looks like he'll get three more shots this year versus two for Murray, and he already has a 4th round in the bag. Higher potential level too, though that seems far off at the present moment.

Against Novak: His troubles seem more complicated and inexplicable: a big soup of motivation, reduced training, injuries, fitness, and personal life. Has become too much like Deepak Chopra and would seemingly be equally content with sucking the juice out of a raisin for two hours as winning a slam.

In Murray's favor: Seems more hungry and motivated and not gone off to La-La-Land like his peer. Claims to have been somewhat pained by his hip even during his amazing 2016 run, and made semis and quarters at his last two slams even while he was walking like a centenarian. And rehab has reportedly gone as hoped for, so who knows what he can do against the current field if he gets back to ~95% health?

Against Murray: Will not have played a pro tour match in about a year's time when he returns. Lack of seeding. Is Andy Murray.

 
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tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
If they get a good draw with a mix of Ferrer, Berdych, Monfils, Busta thrown in, they can make the QF.

If they get the newgen of Medvedev, Zverev, Thiem, Kyrgios, Chung then they are toast.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
If they get a good draw with a mix of Ferrer, Berdych, Monfils, Busta thrown in, they can make the QF.

If they get the newgen of Medvedev, Zverev, Thiem, Kyrgios, Chung then they are toast.
A well playing Djokovic can beat Thiem in his sleep. Medvedev too.

The only ones I could see as troubling are Kyrgios and Chung.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
He'll have to make changes to his game though. He'll end up in a wheelchair if he plays like in 2016 again.
He scheduled terribly in 2016 in chase of that #1. He'll definitely have to schedule more wisely upon his return and take a more preventive approach, and I guess he will.

Getting slightly more offensive would do well for his longevity too. Though I think the link between defensiveness and injury is often overstated.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
This thread has such nice bump potential, I just have to contribute so someone can quote me after USO and call me an idiot.

I'll go with Murray, he just wants it, you can feel how pumped up and enthusiastic he is. With Novak, I have no idea where his head is right now.

We're talking about two highly succesful players around the age of 30 which is usually accompanied by plenty of wear and tear, rich bank account and family life. In that situation, motivation to live the same rigorous life that is required to still have results at the highest level is one of key aspects.

Of course real life is not a Hollywood movie, desire and passion are not enough to overcome some injuries (as we've seen in the past) but in an age where athletes seem to recover better from surgeries and have longer active careers I think it will in Murray's case.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
EZ question. Who will record the best result at a single slam in 2018: the Haggis King or the Mighty Peace & Love Advocate?

In Novak's favor: He looks like he'll get three more shots this year versus two for Murray, and he already has a 4th round in the bag. Higher potential level too, though that seems far off at the present moment.

Against Novak: His troubles seem more complicated and inexplicable: a big soup of motivation, reduced training, injuries, fitness, and personal life. Has become too much like Deepak Chopra and would seemingly be equally content with sucking the juice out of a raisin for two hours as winning a slam.

In Murray's favor: Seems more hungry and motivated and not gone off to La-La-Land like his peer. Claims to have been somewhat pained by his hip even during his amazing 2016 run, and made semis and quarters at his last two slams even while he was walking like a centenarian. And rehab has reportedly gone as hoped for, so who knows what he can do against the current field if he gets back to ~95% health?

Against Murray: Will not have played a pro tour match in about a year's time when he returns. Lack of seeding. Is Andy Murray.

Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.

 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
I miss Murray. Never thought I'd say that, but it's true. Novak is a shell of himself, but at least he's at the tournaments in body if not in spirit. Can't remember the last time I saw Murray berating himself and just generally swearing at anything in the vicinity.

I'll go with Murray for the poll.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I miss Murray. Never thought I'd say that, but it's true. Novak is a shell of himself, but at least he's at the tournaments in body if not in spirit. Can't remember the last time I saw Murray berating himself and just generally swearing at anything in the vicinity.

I'll go with Murray for the poll.
He hasn't played on the tour since Wimbledon last year.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.
Against Murray: Is Andy Murray.

So awesome. :D Doesn't take a masters in lip reading to figure that one out.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
Neither. Novak hasn't even recovered yet and it's almost April. To assume he'll be in championship form in two months is unrealistic. As for Murray, he hasn't even played one tournament yet, and again, to expect him to be in top form by Wimbledon is also unrealistic. People can argue. But, I said last year that neither of them would regain top form and I still believe this.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Neither. I don't see either one doing much at the slams this year. Auschwitzovic looks like a Challenger player at the moment and who really knows what's going on with him? Murray has had major hip surgery. Who knows if Murray will be able to make it back in time for Wimbledon and if he does, will he really be ready to go far? Doubtful.
 
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