Who will have a better 2024, Alcaraz or Sinner?

[sortof]

Sinner in the last few months exploded like a chain reaction of an atomic bomb and no one knows how far it will go.

But imploded in the last match of the Nitto finals. He tends to have mental issues in important matches as long as the opponent isn´t de Minaur.
Anyhow, who is going to be more successful in 2024, Sinner or Alcaraz? Hard to tell, in light of his slump since Wimbledon it´s safe to say that Alcaraz performances are less predictable than Sinners. Objectively, both are darn good on hardcourts, Alcaraz appears to be stronger on grass, while Sinner sucks on clay. Could be about even, unless Alcaraz continues to tank.

 

[Dominic & Andrey]

Chances are that I'll be completely wrong but I want to go with Sinner(assuming he will improve his stamina during the off season in order to get less spent in slams). Carlos will still by far have the best results on clay however I , but on HC I want to trust Jannik, even though I may be disappointed.

 

[Deleted member 798581]

Its all well Alcaraz being 'found out', people said the same about Medvedev (who is fairly one dimensional), and yet there they both are winning the majority of matches they play. At his age only a fool would say he wont develop further.

This time last year people were saying Sinner needed to improve his serve, which he has. What if Alcaraz was to do the same over the next 12 months (like everyone says he needs to)?

Alcaraz has won two slams, one of which was this year, in a final against Djokovic.
People are saying Jannik will be better next year as he beat Djokovic twice and Alcaraz has been poor since Wimbledon, but in my opinion Sinner would still seasons in a heartbeat.

He's still not proven in BO5 and looked completely outclassed in the Final recently, but I think Sinner has had a great end of season, and I hope it propels him on to bigger things next season.

 

[jl809]

Can’t vote for Sinner until he does something in Bo5. Until then he’s just Zverev

 

[Subway Tennis]

I think Sinner is going to win AO and multiple masters next year. Alcaraz is going to benefit from an uninterrupted pre-season and will be better next year, and will win at least 1 major. It won’t be AO, though. The Australian conditions don’t suit his game as much as the other majors and that’s going to be the toughest major to win for him unless they change the playing surface.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Sinner is yet to prove himself in a slam.

 

[mahatma]

One is aiming at big 3 titles in his head, other is yet to reach a slam final.

 

[RF-18]

For me it's still Alcaraz as he has proven so much more on the big stage, and he is younger even.

 

[RF-18]

One thing we shouldn't forget about regarding sinner in slams is he has reached a QF or better in all slams. So he has proven his quality alot already, but compared to Alcaraz obviously more things needs to happen.

 

[tudwell]

People haven’t realized how much Sinner has improved in comparison to Carlos.

He’s currently ranked:

#3 in return games won
#5 in service holds

The only other person who’s ranked in the top five in those two categories is Djokovic. I honestly can’t see Carlos finishing ahead of Sinner in 2024.

Service games won
Return games won

@Pheasant Sinner is slowly turning into a monster under Cahill. I really think Sinner has surpassed Carlos. The rankings will soon show it

It's pretty scary stuff, but also kind of confusing that he hasn't put it together at any event of real importance. The one Masters title he won this year was a joke of a draw. He was closest at the ATP Finals but got wrecked in the last match. Still needs to put it all together in a big way at one of the big tournaments.

 

[tudwell]

Alcaraz just had a short burst in 2023 where he performed great winning W and Masters. He peaked early and he's been sh*t post W losing 8 consecutive tournaments in a row after being handed no 1 only to hand it back to Djokovic. He ended 2023 quite poorly.

Sinner finished the year on a high winning his Davis cup slowly reaching his peak. He should've won ATP Finals had he been smart enough with his matches.


So, it has to be Sinner going forward taking that confidence to AO.
Nadal is back for FO. So, it is between Djokovic, Alcaraz & Nadal at the FO.
W is where Alcaraz is the slight favourite as the defending champion but Djokovic will be out for revenge.
USO is between Sinner, Djokovic and Medvedev.

Don't forget. There's Rune under Becker who could throw a few surprises.

I wouldn't really call it a short burst. After Wimbledon, Alcaraz was 47-4 on the year. 8-1 against the top 10. 6 of 10 tournaments won, including a slam and two Masters. Only one loss before a semifinal anywhere. That's very sustained success – the kind we haven't seen from anyone besides the Big 3 in the last 20 years. By contrast, Sinner from Canada to the end of the year went 27-4, winning 3 tournaments (of 8 played, plus Davis Cup). That includes just one Masters title and no slam (and no YEC either). He went a remarkable 9-1 against top 10 players post-US Open but for all that he only got 2 500-level tournaments.

Of course, Alcaraz fell off in a big way after Wimbledon, and there's no guarantee he gets his game back in order for the first half of 2024. I do like where Sinner's headed, and I could very well see him having the better year, especially if Alcaraz's off form continues. But it's true what others have said in this thread: Alcaraz is the only one of the two who's proven himself on the big stage.

 

[dking68]

It's pretty scary stuff, but also kind of confusing that he hasn't put it together at any event of real importance. The one Masters title he won this year was a joke of a draw. He was closest at the ATP Finals but got wrecked in the last match. Still needs to put it all together in a big way at one of the big tournaments.

Yeah I think it’s holding him back, saying this as a fan. Will be top three though irregardless

 

[ryushen21]

Sinner is definitely on the rise. Alcaraz needs to sort some inconsistencies, but it's hard to bet against him given his results in 2023.

 

[Krish0608]

Call it recently bias, but I’ll go with Sinner. He’s much more complete as a player now. His game translates well to all surfaces unlike Alcaraz and he spends less energy on court which definitely helps in the long run. And he also seems less distracted than Alcaraz.
All that could change though if Alcaraz’s serve improves next year as much as Sinner’s has this year. And Carlitos develops more shot tolerance.

 

[RS]

Sinner looks to be developing faster in the last few months but I am trusting Alcaraz to recover and he is guy with the more proven track record.

 

[FeroBango]

Sinner somehow has the more dependable, easier game, but is the more injury-prone player of the two.

Hmm.

 

[sportsfan1]

Yes raz is the proven slam winner. But you have to take into account that sinner beat both raz and novak, and how out of sorts raz has been. Sinner's baseline game is more stable and has the higher serve ceiling, whereas raz game appears shaky at times and his demeanor is too amped up.
I'd really like to see sinners 2023 winter being a springboard to slams, and raz adding a coach and regaining his form.
As far as 2024 slam favorites, I'd say novak>>>> sinner > raz.

 

[Dwell]

Sinner. Can't believe this gif is almost 4 years old...

 

[Jonesy]

Sinner. Can't believe this gif is almost 4 years old...

Kid was just too green to beat Rafa in that swamp, at least he did better than Novak. I still think he has some mental flaws, but matured a lot compared to that time.

 

[Dwell]

Kid was just too green to beat Rafa in that swamp, at least he did better than Novak. I still think he has some mental flaws, but matured a lot compared to that time.

He had the game to push Rafa to 5 sets, imo. He was fresh, with no scar tissue, he wasn't troubled by Rafa's loopy FH and he had return of serve that could compensate for a mediocre 1st serve on clay. But for some reason, he seemed to care more about hitting the ball nicely than playing the right shot. Unlike Carlitos against Tsitsipas during his epic USO performance, he would hit hard with no killing intent, like he was still discovering his powers. Too green indeed.

 

[mental midget]

It’s hard to say as of now.

The argument for Alcaraz is he’s proven he can do it and already won 2. He has proven himself better in BO5.

The argument for Sinner is he’s in much better form right now and will likely start 2024 with more confidence and momentum.

I lot with depend on how Sinner improves his fitness to hold up better in the longer matches and add bit more variety at times. Alcaraz needs to work on the serve and just get his mental edge back he lost. As well as cut down the silly errors at times.

I’d give the slight edge to Alcaraz due to recent history at slams but if Sinner starts showing it in slams then it can easily tilt to him.

I think Sinner can potentially do better in both HC slams next season if his body holds up and gets a decent draw. I expect Alcaraz to be better on the neutral surfaces again.

It’s going to be interesting for sure.

agree. edge to carlos on natural surfaces. sinner gaining upper hand on hc. fun dynamic at the top of the game (and novak floating around of course.)

 

[Rosstour]

Djokovic

 

[nolefam_2024]

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[Rovesciarete]

Alcaraz has already been there, done that. My personal take is quite unchanged from a year ago. Alcaraz was the more rounded and mature player at 20 than Sinner at 21 but had less room to improve. ..... Jannik has two big advantages compared to Charlie, easy power and height.

In years to come Jannik might become one, if not the hardest guy to break on the tour. Here we have the top guys in holding percentage on hardcourt. He is holding 88% of his game but Is clearly the second best at winning hardcourt games after the mighty Novak which is off the charts. I would argue that Jannik has still a lot more serve potential than Charlie. Combined with his weight of shot I'm quite certain that he will be among the top 3 in the next two years in this regard.

Didn't even remember my forecast but it sounds quite logical. In business as in life smart and hard work combined with basic logic usually pays off.

Lots of skills can be improved, height is a bit more difficult after 19.