Who will win more slams, Jannik Sinner or Carlos Alcaraz?

[TheSlicer]

You should stop watching tennis is you think Rune has a higher ceiling than Z.

You obviously havent watched enough

 

[NeutralFan]

You obviously havent watched enough

Yeah sure!! Beating Oldovic at Paris masters is greater than Beating Novak at YEC , Rafa on clay and Fed at YEC and grass.

 

[FeroBango]

No way Teeth is winning more slams than Sinner.

No one can know for certain what the future holds but to this comment I retort by saying that there's no what that the uncharismatic borebot carrot wins more than Carlos Alcaraz.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Yeah sure!! Beating Oldovic at Paris masters is greater than Beating Novak at YEC , Rafa on clay and Fed at YEC and grass.

0 grand slam wins vs all 3. Zero

Big fat ZERO

 

[TheSlicer]

Yeah sure!! Beating Oldovic at Paris masters is greater than Beating Novak at YEC , Rafa on clay and Fed at YEC and grass.

You see, you Talk about results, you probably didnt even watch those matches, im talking about HIS GAME, and Its potential, just from a pure tennis perspective, besides youre talking about a result he did being a lot of years older than rune, nonsense

 

[nolefam_2024]

Andy Murray by age 27 had grand slam wins vs all the three in semifinal or above. And Andy isn't even an atg.

Tomas Berdych
Jo tsonga

Had wins vs all 3.

 

[dking68]

Medvedev is blocked by Rafole in slams
Thiem was blocked by Rafole in slams
Tsitsipas was blocked by Djokovic in slams

Zverev was blocked by Kohlschriber Ruud and post injury Raonic. He is that level guy. You might expect him to "figure out" tennis and become some unbeatable god but it's not going to happen, you know it. So all we are left with is this hypothetical peak Zverev.

Even Ruud has more slam finals than Zverev

 

[nolefam_2024]

Even Ruud has more slam finals than Zverev

Beating Zverev

 

[FeroBango]

Prizmic will win more than these two anyway. His loss against Djokovic>Sinner's SF win.

 

[TheSlicer]

Yeah sure!! Beating Oldovic at Paris masters is greater than Beating Novak at YEC , Rafa on clay and Fed at YEC and grass.

Ok look, i ll rephrase a bit what i said, im a bit sleepy, i think rune has a Big potential of making much better results than what zverev has done, i have to admit i watched zed at madrid from the stands and his wingspan and the way he hit those balls, with the right conditions he would be unstopable, his mental is a bit suspect tough, runes game is more complete and his mental is great for someone his age, so maybe "potential ceiling given the right conditionts" It would be more similar, talking about strokes, but their Game as a whole, well rune is more complete and has a better mindset, so i see him more able of winning on a bad day

 

[Adriano Panatta]

No way Teeth is winning more slams than Sinner.

I think Carlos is better than Sinner on clay(and a lot of players play better on hard than clay) and he has only 20 years.I hope will play better in the next years while Sinner now is in his prime.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Ok look, i ll rephrase a bit what i said, im a bit sleepy, i think rune has a Big potential of making much better results than what zverev has done, i have to admit i watched zed at madrid from the stands and his wingspan and the way he hit those balls, with the right conditions he would be unstopable, his mental is a bit suspect tough, runes game is more complete and his mental is great for someone his age, so maybe "potential ceiling given the right conditionts" It would be more similar, talking about strokes, but their Game as a whole, well rune is more complete and has a better mindset, so i see him more able of winning on a bad day

You don't even have to type such a large answer.

A guy who is 6 foot 6 and has clay as his best surface is all you need to know. His wingspan is for nothing. He is a passive player who thrives in clay conditions where his faulty forehand gets some more time. And still his forehand isn't attacking one. His serve is partially neutralized on clay which should be a bad thing for him but even with little worse serve the advantage he gets on fh is so much he loves playing on clay.

 

[Rovesciarete]

Jannik started at three and seemed to have focused more on skiing between ages 7 and 8. That Cult Tennis video that kickstarted this Sinner PR to the mainstream peddles a questionable narrative. That he turned pro at 14 despite the claim of his starting at 12 should make one incredulously cross-verify said claim!

Admittedly there are several different versions of when Sinner began (some say he began even later, at 13), but that he started at 3 playing both Tennis and the sport of skiing, while focusing more on skiing between 7 and 8 while he left home at 13/14 to soon turn professional in Tennis seems to be the most consistent tale. https://bhgo.fra1.digitaloceanspace...-age-birth-date-height-girlfriend-career.html

It's uncommon for elite athletes to not be pretty damn good at other sports from my understanding. Additionally his skiing background makes him a better Tennis player -- lending him a natural sliding ability even on grass much like skiing helped Novak, the best slider on grass -- than anything else. Ask Rafa about his shift to Tennis from football, or Novak as mentioned before about how as a mountain kid from a professional skiing family (like the sinner from the mountains), how skiing turned out to be total blessing to his Tennis game. https://www.essentiallysports.com/s...djokovic-and-his-love-for-skiing-tennis-2020/

Sinner just continues to remind me of Novak the more I think about it. It's uncanny as hell!

...
Addendum: I liken musicianship to excelling in sports. A musician who plays multiple instruments has advantages that someone who can play just one cannot come close to sniffing.

Sinner began playing a bit of tennis at four and continued with a few trainings hours until he went to Piatti. He focused more on skiing during the winter season which is long where he was born and played a lot of football in the summer. This is basically an agglomeration of his old club and two others, and the colour is just a case.

Despite little training he was winning pretty much everything at the regional level and many tournaments in which he participated before he made that switch to Piatti.

P.S: I noticed that two players have basically the same hair has Sinner, lots of blond and there are quite a few tall lads for an Under15.

 

[TheSlicer]

You don't even have to type such a large answer.

A guy who is 6 foot 6 and has clay as his best surface is all you need to know. His wingspan is for nothing. He is a passive player who thrives in clay conditions where his faulty forehand gets some more time. And still his forehand isn't attacking one. His serve is partially neutralized on clay which should be a bad thing for him but even with little worse serve the advantage he gets on fh is so much he loves playing on clay.

Well he has done good things off clay, just not enough to beat the top guys, that final at uso was hideous, also because the stands were empty, the thing is, had he won that slam, would we see him as so much different? Because we shouldnt, his Game is what It is

Sinner began playing a bit of tennis at four and continued with a few trainings hours until he went to Piatti. He focused more on skiing during the winter season which is long where he was born and played a lot of football in the summer. This is basically an agglomeration of his old club and two others, and the colour is just a case.

Despite little training he was winning pretty much everything at the regional level and many tournaments in which he participated before he made that switch to Piatti.

How much you think 5 year old kids train? Even fed said he barely trained 2 hours as a teen until he went pro, some players dont need to train as much, they just train intense, and a lot of players do many sports as kids, the fact that sinner focused solely on tennis at 13 is so overrated, if anything, It probably helped him building physical habilities as coordination and flexibility, and keeping his mind fresh

 

[nolefam_2024]

Well he has done good things off clay, just not enough to beat the top guys, that final at uso was hideous, also because the stands were empty, the thing is, had he won that slam, would we see him as so much different? Because we shouldnt, his Game is what It is

How much so you think 5 years old kids train? Even fed said he barely trained 2 hours until he went pro, some players dont need to train as much, they just train intense, and a lot of players do many sports as kids, the fact that sinner focused solely on tennis at 13 or so is so overrated

Without Djokovic default I don't see any way that version of Zverev even makes the final. Zverev barely reached the final. That match vs coric was a big case of who will choke more. Nole would not let him even go to the final.

 

[nolefam_2024]

You should stop watching tennis if you think Rune has a higher ceiling than Z.

Zverev can play role of a wild card better than rune I suppose. Because when we count on Zverev he will disappoint us and when there is no pressure or expectations he will win a big match because he can't handle even a little bit pressure.

Rune till now has not shown he is week in week out player but he is having issues with physicality which mostly will be better by age 22 (1.5 years from now).

Rune has bad attitude just like Zverev so he might suffer the same fate as Zverev but his forehand is far better than Zverev and fh decides best players.

In past 30 hears it was the players with great forehands who won most slams. Only few players had their backhand better than forehand like maybe Cilic. Fh is basic shot which has to be great in tennis and Zverev sucks at that. Even Medvedev sucks but his game is so unconventional that it probably works for him.

Rune fh is good. It's not great YET but he is improving it and most likely will succeed.

 

[TheSlicer]

Zverev can play role of a wild card better than rune I suppose. Because when we count on Zverev he will disappoint us and when there is no pressure or expectations he will win a big match because he can't handle even a little bit pressure.

Rune till now has not shown he is week in week out player but he is having issues with physicality which mostly will be better by age 22 (1.5 years from now).

Rune has bad attitude just like Zverev so he might suffer the same fate as Zverev but his forehand is far better than Zverev and fh decides best players.

In past 30 hears it was the players with great forehands who won most slams. Only few players had their backhand better than forehand like maybe Cilic. Fh is basic shot which has to be great in tennis and Zverev sucks at that. Even Medvedev sucks but his game is so unconventional that it probably works for him.

Rune fh is good. It's not great YET but he is improving it and most likely will succeed.

What really impressed me from rune was his mental Game at times, he had no experience on Big stages and he looked totally unphased, both in the way he played and in the way he looked, also he has a good net and touch Game, something very rare in recent times, him and Alcaraz having that is a breath of fresh Air, every player was looking the same for s lot of years, specially remarkable that it seems to be in their adn, its not something they have developed after years on the tour, its just printed in their base game, and even tough in this poly era with huge spin and power is more difficult to reach the net over and over again, i stil think having a complete game can make the difference, and rune has a very good serve for his age

 

[nolefam_2024]

What really impressed me from rune was his mental Game at times, he had no experience on Big stages and he looked totally unphased, in the way he played and in the way he looked, also he has a good net and touch Game, something very rare in recent times, specially remarcable that it seems to be in their adn, its not something they have developed after years on the tour, its just printed in their base game, and even tough in this poly era with huge spin and power is more difficult to reach the net over and over again, i stil think having a complete game can make the difference, and rune has a very good serve for his age

All three guys are currently lacking physicality I think.

Rune is most behind. But even Sinner and Carlos will get physically better.

But all three have games who can dominate the Medvedev gen. Rune and Sinner both lacked alcaraz in completeness but they have improved the net game in past year. And both come to the net on their own. Although rune probably will get better at it if he listens to Boris and the coaches. He looks natural at the net.

 

[TheSlicer]

All three guys are currently lacking physicality I think.

Rune is most behind. But even Sinner and Carlos will get physically better.

But all three have games who can dominate the Medvedev gen. Rune and Sinner both lacked alcaraz in completeness but they have improved the net game in past year. And both come to the net on their own. Although rune probably will get better at it if he listens to Boris and the coaches. He looks natural at the net.

When i Saw Alcaraz at 17 making all those veteran plays at the net It totally blew my mind, i remember the first match i watched from him at 16, i tought god this kid is having the day of his life, then i watched the next match, and the next, and the next, and in everyone of them he was making crazier and crazier things, im spanish and i tought he was just gonna be another deffensive player, press here in spain was hyping him since he was 15 because he was beating 30 year old guys at Challengers, but when i Saw him play it really blew my mind, and the moment i realized that game Will translate just as good at the top of the game, was when he beat tsitsipas at uso being 18 years old, that was one of the most ballsy attacking tennis display i had ever seen, paired with an unbeliebable resilience and physical power being so young, he really set the bar so high from the beginning, thats why now we see making semis at uso or losing to djokovic in a masters final as a "big failure"

 

[nolefam_2024]

When i Saw Alcaraz at 17 making all those veteran plays at the net It totally blew my mind, i remember the first match i watched from him at 16, i thought god this kid is having the day of his life, then i watched the next match, and the next, and the next, and in everyone of them he was making crazier and crazier things, im spanish and i thought he was just gonna be another defensive player, press here in spain was hyping him since he was 15 because he was beating 30 year old guys at Challengers, but when i Saw him play it really blew my mind, and the moment i realized that game Will translate just as good at the top of the game, was when he beat tsitsipas at uso being 18 years old, that was one of the most ballsy attacking tennis display i had ever seen, paired with an unbelievable resilience and physical power being so young, he really set the bar so high from the beginning, that's why now we see making semis at uso or losing to djokovic in a masters final as a "big failure"

Yes alcaraz is the first bankable guy I saw. His talent can't be denied. I was never impressed with sinner to this extent even when the hype was high and Alcaraz had not played tsitsipas.

 

[TheSlicer]

Yes alcaraz is the first bankable guy I saw. His talent can't be denied. I was never impressed with sinner to this extent even when the hype was high and Alcaraz had not played tsitsipas.

Exactly, i mean, the first matches i Saw from sinner i was totally uninpressed, yeah i Saw he had good fluidity in the groundtrokes and a serve that would potentially get much bigger, but he was just another baseline guy, and not even a specially consistent one, he obviously has worked very hard and now is more complete, but talking about base game, man he is nowhere near alcaraz, power today is very important, thats why once he developed a bit he can take full advantage of that, but the day conditions are not to his liking or he has to choose between many options to win points, he will have far less available than Alcaraz, once carlos learns to use properly his full arsenal i cant see them at the same level

 

[FeroBango]

Sinner began playing a bit of tennis at four and continued with a few trainings hours until he went to Piatti. He focused more on skiing during the winter season which is long where he was born and played a lot of football in the summer. This is basically an agglomeration of his old club and two others, and the colour is just a case.

Despite little training he was winning pretty much everything at the regional level and many tournaments in which he participated before he made that switch to Piatti.

P.S: I noticed that two players have basically the same hair has Sinner, lots of blond and there are quite a few tall lads for an Under15.

Yes seemingly football was also favored over Tennis during several stretches by young Jannik. His natural talent for striking the ball is absolutely off the charts. A true sportsman.

 

[Rovesciarete]

How much you think 5 year old kids train? Even fed said he barely trained 2 hours as a teen until he went pro, some players dont need to train as much, they just train intense, and a lot of players do many sports as kids, the fact that sinner focused solely on tennis at 13 is so overrated, if anything, It probably helped him building physical habilities as coordination and flexibility, and keeping his mind fresh

The intriguing part is his success at one sport and now another which are very different. Maybe some don't know that Italy is a top5 nation in Alpine skiing, so winning a national title at that age isn't easy.

For me the outstanding part is that he switched to tennis in part because he remained too light to compete against the more precocious teenagers.* At 18 he was still growing, after he won his first challenger. In short you have great talent, success and athletic capability in two different sports in a slowly maturing body.


*Kids ski usually on not too steep slopes, where weight is a big advantage. We are talking young athletes here, not overweight kiddies

 

[nolefam_2024]

The intriguing part is his success at one sport and now another which are very different. Maybe some don't know that Italy is a top5 nation in Alpine skiing, so winning a national title at that age isn't easy.

For me the outstanding part is that he switched to tennis in part because he remained too light to compete against the more precocious teenagers.* At 18 he was still growing, after he won his first challenger. In short you have great talent, success and athletic capability in two different sports in a slowly maturing body.


*Kids ski usually on not too steep slopes, where weight is a big advantage. We are talking young athletes here, not overweight kiddies

If sinner is Berdych like (he is very much) the movement is going to be such a difference maker. Sinner is still improving and has already become virtually unbeatable. He is top 3 player today easily maybe even top 2 along with Nole. And he is improving. The skiing background will most likely help him just like Nole.

 

[Eureka]

Go back six months and sinner would have no slam no masters 6 or so titles. And the comparison made sense then. It's not just because both are tall. They both lacked something in rallies. The x factor.

Thanks for the clarification. Hence why I can't make sense of it now, as Jannik has achieved more.

Both were tall guys, who stayed behind the baseline and hit the ball hard all of the time. Both had limited ability against top level talent. Both guys wore baseball hats and have curly hair. Both were sponsored by Nike.

Sinner is Berdych and Alcaraz is Rafa lite.

Welcome to the 2024 tennis season (also known as The Bizarro World.)

Lool. I enjoy your part tongue in cheek/part serious responses. What do you anticipate will unravel in Bizarro World?

Yeah, well, I can't really fault you for having more faith in Sinner than Alcaraz. Call it recency bias but you feel what you feel. Sinner has indeed put things together.

I personally have faith in Carlos coming back from this slump having been a keen observer of his game for a long time. I have a reasonable faith in Alcaraz putting his range together into a formidable package soon enough. Contrary to the opinions of many, the upside to Alcaraz is immense with the sky itself being the limit.

I would generally find it odd to say that a 20 year old kid is in a slump. He's only starting his journey. Yet, given his extraordinary achievements to date, I can understand why the hiatus in title wins is considered a slump. He has set a high bar for himself, and like all who excel, that bar is seen as their 'norm'.

I believe that Carlos will excel further, but it is not a given / certainty. Similarly for Sinner.

 

[Eureka]

Idk why people pick Alcaraz. 2 out of four slams are hard court. Sinner is so much better than Alcaraz on hard court, and I think he’ll be better than Alcaraz on grass with the height difference

They've each won a hardcourt slam, Carlos winning the USO at 19. So they are currently on a par. Hope that helps.

 

[nolefam_2024]

They've each won a hardcourt slam, Carlos winning the USO at 19. So they are currently on a par. Hope that helps.

And Nadal was ahead of Nole by USO 2010 with 2 slams on hc.

Novak won 3/3 of the next hc slams. Increasing his tally from 1 to 4 and leapfrogging claydal.

 

[djokovic the conqueror]

Sinner.

Alcaraz is done winning slams. Many players already have a blueprint on how to solve his one dimensional tennis.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Nadal vs Nole hc slams
0 1
1 1
2 1
2 2
2 3
2 4
2 5
3 5
3 6
3 7
3 8
4 8
4 9
4 10
5 10
5 11
5 12
5* 12
5* 13
5* 14

That's what we are worried about Carlos. At least I am.

 

[dking68]

Nadal vs Nole hc slams
0 1
1 1
2 1
2 2
2 3
2 4
2 5
3 5
3 6
3 7
3 8
4 8
4 9
4 10
5 10
5 11
5 12
5* 12
5* 13
5* 14

That's what we are worried about Carlos. At least I am.

48-9 vs 28-9

7-0 vs 4-1

 

[BeatlesFan]

Yeah sure!! Beating Oldovic at Paris masters is greater than Beating Novak at YEC , Rafa on clay and Fed at YEC and grass.

Zverev is almost 27. Feel free to compare Rune's career and results to Abuserev when he's 27. Just think, you only have to wait seven years! And spare us the tired, predictable reply, "yeah, well at 27 Danebrat will be playing challengers in Portugal and ranked 400!"

Yeah, yeah....

 

[nolefam_2024]

48-9 vs 28-9

7-0 vs 4-1

What is 7-0 4-1 ?

 

[NeutralFan]

Zverev is almost 27. Feel free to compare Rune's career and results to Abuserev when he's 27. Just think, you only have to wait seven years! And spare us the tired, predictable reply, "yeah, well at 27 Danebrat will be playing challengers in Portugal and ranked 400!"

Yeah, yeah....

I said so far!! Btw Z achieved those feat till when he was 19-21-22

 

[TheSlicer]

Sinner.

Alcaraz is done winning slams. Many players already have a blueprint on how to solve his one dimensional tennis.

Ground control to Major tom, youre floating on a tin can, faaaaaaar above the world lol

 

[NeutralFan]

Sinner.

Alcaraz is done winning slams. Many players already have a blueprint on how to solve his one dimensional tennis.

Son, have you joined the Sinner train?

 

[FeroBango]

Ground control to Major tom, youre floating on a tin can, faaaaaaar above the world lol

Got his thinking capacity conquered too.

 

[DSH]

Alcaraz :
AO 1
FO 5
W 3
USO 2

Sinner:
AO 3
FO 0
W 4
USO 2

Do you think Sinner will do better at Wimbledon than at the US Open?

 

[CHillTennis]

Lool. I enjoy your part tongue in cheek/part serious responses. What do you anticipate will unravel in Bizarro World?

Sadly, I believe it will just be a continuation of what we've been getting over the last few years.

The world's strangest rivalry between 20 year old Carlos Alcaraz and a man that's nearly old enough to be his father, will now be expanded to include the ATP's replacement for Tomas Berdych.

I think we'll be in store for many "Epic" battles between Alcaraz and Sinner, with the geriatric Djokovic making his way way into the fray and managing to cause the occasional upset.

The tennis analysts will be there to remind us that Djokovic, even despite his age, is in fact playing the best tennis of his entire career. Without question.

Logic goes out the freakin' window when it comes to Paul Annacone and Mats Wilander. They're owned by the media and they just do what they're told. "Kool-aide drinkers" as I call them.

I think the game is going to be perhaps a bit stale going forward. Especially after all of the excitement that the Big 3 generated over the last 15 years.

But don't tell that to The Bizzaro Superman. He has front row tickets for the *epic* (well not really) Sinner vs Alcaraz match.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Sadly, I believe it will just be a continuation of what we've been getting over the last few years.

The world's strangest rivalry between 20 year old Carlos Alcaraz and a man that's nearly old enough to be his father, will now be expanded to include the ATP's replacement for Tomas Berdych.

I think we'll be in store for many "Epic" battles between Alcaraz and Sinner, with the geriatric Djokovic making his way way into the fray and managing to cause the occasional upset.

The tennis analysts will be there to remind us that Djokovic, even despite his age, is in fact playing the best tennis of his entire career. Without question.

Logic goes out the freakin' window when it comes to Paul Annacone and Mats Wilander. They're owned by the media and they just do what they're told. "Kool-aide drinkers" as I call them.

I think the game is going to be perhaps a bit stale going forward. Especially after all of the excitement that the Big 3 generated over the last 15 years.

But don't tell that to The Bizzaro Superman. He has front row tickets for the *epic* (well not really) Sinner vs Alcaraz match.

Please expand on this. There are 4 men at the top of men's game right now. Don't discount medvedev. You are painting very good picture. Add medvedev as well.

 

[CHillTennis]

Please expand on this. There are 4 men at the top of men's game right now. Don't discount medvedev. You are painting very good picture. Add medvedev as well.

Medvedev is the man on the island. He wants to join Sinner and Alcaraz as part of the "epic" new rivalry. But after winning the 2021 US Open, he suddenly forgot how to swim and thus remains stuck on the island.

Be that as it may, he's still miles closer to Alcaraz and Sinner than any other Next Gen player.

Perhaps one day he will remember how to swim again.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Medvedev is the man on the island. He wants to join Sinner and Alcaraz as part of the "epic" new rivalry. But after winning the 2021 US Open, he suddenly forgot how to swim and thus remains stuck on the island.

Be that as it may, he's still miles closer to Alcaraz and Sinner than any other Next Gen player.

Perhaps one day he will remember how to swim again.

He will win another slam I think. Soon. Knocking at the door again and again.

 

[Midaso240]

Zverev is actually a lower ceiling guy. He has always played his worst in big matches. Someone like Wawrinka would do the opposite many a times in slams. But Zverev is probably the worst at handling pressure. Probably because he is not good enough a tennis player.

This is actually true, because he pulls some match out of a hat once in every 200 matches like at the AO vs Alcaraz, people forget about all the times he choked or just plain got thrashed. Recency bias drives me crazy

 

[CHillTennis]

He will win another slam I think. Soon. Knocking at the door again and again.

He should have a few slams by now.

He definitely should have beaten Sinner in that final.

The guy is clearly too good to be a one slam wonder.

Yet he seems to have Roddick problems.

 

[nolefam_2024]

He should have a few slams and definitely should have beaten Sinner in that final.

The guy is clearly too good to be a one slam wonder.

Yet he seems to have Roddick problems.

I don't know about Roddick but all I know is you keep knocking on a door for too long, someone is going to answer someday.

 

[CHillTennis]

I don't know about Roddick but all I know is you keep knocking on a door for too long, someone is going to answer someday.

Roddick got close to winning a second slam a bunch of times. He really should have beaten Federer at Wimbledon in 2009.

But for some reason he just couldn't get the job done against Roger Federer. Not even once, when it really counted.

Medvedev doesn't have limitations like the ones that Roddick faced. Djokovic is still a force, but he's getting old.

Alcaraz is vulnerable against hard hitting baseliners and Sinner, could be someone's dinner, if they would simply move the bloke around the court a bit more.

Meddy has the game to win another slam, but he's going to have find "it" again, if it's going to happen.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Roddick got close to winning a second slam a bunch of times. He really should have beaten Federer at Wimbledon in 2009.

But for some reason he just couldn't get the job done against Roger Federer. Not even once, when it really counted.

Medvedev doesn't have limitations like the ones that Roddick faced. Djokovic is still a force, but he's getting old.

Alcaraz is vulnerable against hard hitting baseliners and Sinner could be someone's dinner if they would simply move the bloke around the court a bit more.

Meddy has the game to win another slam, but he's going to have find "it" again, if it's going to happen.

Ok let's see. Next year by February if Medvedev has won a slam. He is never counted in winners. But he has gone back to back slam finals and was in Wimbledon semis (got thrashed by Carlos).

 

[CHillTennis]

Ok let's see. Next year by February if Medvedev has won a slam. He is never counted in winners. But he has gone back to back slam finals and was in Wimbledon semis (got thrashed by Carlos).

He has one pattern that I really don't like.

At the 2022 Australian Open he was up 2 sets to love against Nadal and lost in 5.

This year he was up 2 sets to love against Sinner and lost in 5.

Medvedev also lost to Nadal in 5 at the 2019 US Open.

The guy is a fighter. I don't understand why he keeps losing all of these matches in the deciding set.

In fact, the only slam final that he won (2021 US Open) his opponent did not play well.

I would say that there is a mental issue that's going on with Medvedev. Until that has been fixed, he's not going to win a slam.

 

[nolefam_2024]

He has one pattern that I really don't like.

At the 2022 Australian Open he was up 2 sets to love against Nadal and lost in 5.

This year he was up 2 sets to love against Sinner and lost in 5.

Medvedev also lost to Nadal in 5 at the 2019 US Open.

The guy is a fighter. I don't understand why he keeps losing all of these matches in the deciding set.

In fact, the only slam final that he won (2021 US Open) his opponent did not play well.

I would say that there is a mental issue that's going on with Medvedev. Until that has been fixed, he's not going to win a slam.

Maybe but I don't think its right way to look at things.
Medvedev lost to Rafa in Rogers cup 2019 just a month back and was rookie top player in 2019. I think him pushing Nadal to five is his mental strength.
2023 final was straight sets because Nole outsmarted him but if he had taken set 2, then the match would be just in 3rd hr and 1 set all.
This year his run to the final was very bad. He should have gone out in R2/SF if not for his mental strength.
It seems to be that he is not able to distinguish himself among great players (ELO 2200 + easily) and that's not bad at all.

 

[taster]

Alcaraz is clearly a more athletic and dynamic competitor. But Sinner could just be better built for tennis in terms of his physiology.

Absolutely - think you've nailed it there. Sinner is all arms and legs which is good for tennis, Carlos is fast and has explosive power, but crucially uses the racquet like a wand - which is why i prefer him.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Roddick got close to winning a second slam a bunch of times. He really should have beaten Federer at Wimbledon in 2009.

But for some reason he just couldn't get the job done against Roger Federer. Not even once, when it really counted.

Maybe because Roddick played peak Fed, with 13 of their matches taking place between 2004-2007, Fed's absolute greatest years. In those 4 years, Fed lost a grand total of only 23 matches... over 4 years. There's no mystery why Roddick couldn't get the job against Fed in those years. The only person who could was Nadal and then generally only on clay.