Who would have ended up with more Slams, Djokovic with Fonseca's forehand or Nadal with Isner's serve?

[Megafanoftennis100]

Just like the title asks.

Imagine Novak Djokovic keeping everything else in his game the same except for his forehand. His FH gets upgraded to Joao Fonseca's FH.
Then imagine Rafa Nadal keeping everything else in his game the same except for his serve. His serve gets upgraded to Isner's serve.

And as for Federer, well, he remains as he is throughout the Big 3 era.

Who would then end up with more Grand Slam titles between Djokovic and Nadal?

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

BTW even though I am not a Fonseca fan (anymore), I cannot deny that his forehand is truly brilliant.

 

[The Guru]

Nadal loses like 5 matches in his career with Isner's serve

 

[StrongRule]

OP truly thinks Fonseca has a better forehand than Djokovic.

 

[helterskelter]

BTW even though I am not a Fonseca fan (anymore), I cannot deny that his forehand is truly brilliant.

Glory hunter.

 

[Born_to_slice]

Djokovic has better forehand than Fonseca and you can't have Isner serve without his height. 2 meters tall grinder wouldn't last long. Give him Federer serve instead and he'd be nearly unbeatable. Give Novak Fed fh as well while we're at it.

 

[TennisFan3]

Nadal loses like 5 matches in his career with Isner's serve

Not even that I really think. His biggest weakness was the serve.
He was almost always at the top of the tour in return stats.
Imagine if Nadal NEVER had to worry about holding serve - wow. With Isner's serve he would be EVEN more effective in serve games.
Most returns would NOT come back. And those that did would be dealt with Nadal's big forehand and 1-2 punch.

 

[Red Rick]

Djokovic with a downgrade or Nadal that never gets broken?

Tough question

 

[DSH]

Not even that I really think. His biggest weakness was the serve.
He was almost always at the top of the tour in return stats.
Imagine if Nadal NEVER had to worry about holding serve - wow. With Isner's serve he would be EVEN more effective in serve games.
Most returns would NOT come back. And those that did would be dealt with Nadal's big forehand and 1-2 punch.

Nadal had one of the worst ace conversion rates per match played.
He played more than 1300 matches, I think he had a little over 4000 aces, or something like that.
Let's imagine he could have doubled that number; if he had been a great server, he would have won more matches and therefore more titles, he would have played a hundred fewer hours on court, less wear and tear, fewer injuries, maybe he would still be playing at an acceptable level.

 

[Zeref123]

You are talking like Djokovic does not have a good FH, still Nadal with Isner serve.

 

[junkieballer]

AO23 Djokovic is the best forehand of all times

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

AO23 Djokovic is the best forehand of all times

Best backhand AND forehand ever and only 24 slams.

Must be mental. Or the smashes.

 

[junkieballer]

Best backhand AND forehand ever and only 24 slams.

Must be mental. Or the smashes.

27 Slams without COVID and UO20 DQ

 

[Mustard]

27 Slams without COVID and UO20 DQ

LOL. What if Nadal never has Mueller-Weiss syndrome, then? 11 tournaments won in 2005 would only be a taster, I'm sure.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

27 Slams without COVID and UO20 DQ

So you're just gonna assume Djoker wins those, including the US Open, his favourite capitulation ground? You're sillier than I thought.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Nadal loses like 5 matches in his career with Isner's serve

Exactly

 

[vix]

This has to be rage bait

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

OP truly thinks Fonseca has a better forehand than Djokovic.

As for forehand specifically, yes, Fonseca is miles better than Djokovic.
Or at least, has considerably more potential to develop a GOAT level forehand.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

AO23 Djokovic is the best forehand of all times

While I certainly agree that AO 2023 Djokovic had a fantastic forehand, Federer AO 2007 had a better FH.
And of course, so does RG 2026 Fonseca.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Djokovic has better forehand than Fonseca and you can't have Isner serve without his height. 2 meters tall grinder wouldn't last long. Give him Federer serve instead and he'd be nearly unbeatable. Give Novak Fed fh as well while we're at it.

LMAO
Look, I am not even a Fonseca fan (I am a Sinner stan), but still, too much is too much.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Best backhand AND forehand ever and only 24 slams.

Must be mental. Or the smashes.

Nope, Djokovic does not have the best backhand of all time.
That would belong to Nalbandian.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

So you're just gonna assume Djoker wins those, including the US Open, his favourite capitulation ground? You're sillier than I thought.

I ain't no Djokostan, but to be fair, Thiem and Zverev played abysmally in the 2020 US Open finals. As someone on this forum once said, that match almost made his eyes bleed.
Heck, I bet even 2019 Federer would've beaten those choking mugs, let alone pre-2024 Djokovic.

BTW speaking of Zverev in a GS final, if he beats Mensik on Friday and advances to the finals, let us PRAY that he actually closes out the match this time (against Cobolli, most likely) instead of dragging it out for ages and giving us another "worst Slam finals of all time" candidate, lol.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

27 Slams without COVID and UO20 DQ

≤14 Slams if he and Federer were of the same age (or at least ≤2 years apart in age).

 

[helterskelter]

Djokovic has better forehand than Fonseca and you can't have Isner serve without his height. 2 meters tall grinder wouldn't last long. Give him Federer serve instead and he'd be nearly unbeatable. Give Novak Fed fh as well while we're at it.

Or give Fed Novak’s backhand. A player with Federer’s forehand and Novak’s backhand would rarely lose. A player with Federer’s backhand and Novak’s forehand would still be world class but might struggle against the likes of Bull or Calf.

 

[AO13]

Nadal loses like 5 matches in his career with Isner's serve

Djokovic loses none (with Isner's serve).

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Djokovic loses none (with Isner's serve).

As if Djokovic didn't have an amazing serve already.
Djokovic getting Isner's serve would only be a marginal improvement.
OTOH, Nadal getting Isner's serve would be a monumental transformation.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Nadal loses like 5 matches in his career with Isner's serve

Sinner loses like 5 matches in his career with Alcaraz's endurance

 

[Razer]

One thing that I can say is, Sinner is better off without the OP as his fan, good riddance.

Now stick to Fonseca ... Lol

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

One thing that I can say is, Sinner is better off without the OP as his fan, good riddance.

Now stick to Fonseca ... Lol

Umm, too late for that now.
In case you have not noticed already, I am back to being a Sinner fan
Fonseca is just overrated AF

 

[Razer]

Umm, too late for that now.
In case you have not noticed already, I am back to being a Sinner fan
Fonseca is just overrated AF

Sinner will continue being disliked as long as you, cagliate and some others are his fans.

You guys are not doing him any favor, just bringing bad name to him with the hyping ...

 

[AO13]

As if Djokovic didn't have an amazing serve already.
Djokovic getting Isner's serve would only be a marginal improvement.
OTOH, Nadal getting Isner's serve would be a monumental transformation.

I mean I know your main goal here is to troll, but I decided to leave a post just for the fun of it.

Djokovic is easily greatest returner of all time. Obviously he has good serve and everything else, he couldn't win billion of tournaments without being a complete package, but give this man 220 km/h serve and 200 km/h second serve virtually without a room for double fault, he would be a video game player with all stats maxed out.

Also you are highly overrating Fonseca's forehand.​

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Sinner will continue being disliked as long as you, cagliate and some others are his fans.

You guys are not doing him any favor, just bringing bad name to him with the hyping ...

Are you certain about that?
I have done nothing but sing praises about Sinner and root for him at every turn.
If that is not being a loyal fan... I don't know what is.

 

[Razer]

Are you certain about that?
I have done nothing but sing praises about Sinner and root for him at every turn.
If that is not being a loyal fan... I don't know what is.

Sinner does not need blindly loyal fans, he needs a bit rational fans.

 

[BlueB]

Isner serve is the greatest upgrade you can get in tennis, unless your name is Karlovic.

 

[Zeref123]

LMAO
Look, I am not even a Fonseca fan (I am a Sinner stan), but still, too much is too much.

In an another thread you said you stopped being a Sinner fan and started being a Fonseca fan.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

In an another thread you said you stopped being a Sinner fan and started being a Fonseca fan.

Yes, but in case you did not notice, I shortly afterward posted a thread declaring that I deeply regret my decision of ditching Sinner for Fonseca, and am thus now back to being a Sinner fan, like I always should have.
Here is the thread for your reference, btw:

Thread 'Sinner, please come back! I am so sorry!!'

Jun 2, 2026

OK, guys, PLEASE forget all the nonsense I said over the past week about switching from being a Sinner fan to being a Fonseca fan!

I deeply regret it.

No way in hell is Fonseca better than Sinner. No way in hell is Fonseca more naturally talented than Sinner (although he does have a better FH, I give you that). And no way in the deepest depths of hell would Fonseca ever even come close to threatening Rafa on clay.

Fonseca just had a fluke win against a 39 year old Djokovic, barely escaped a loss against a guy who was too nice to protest against being robbed of an entire set, and then...

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[helterskelter]

Sinner does not need blindly loyal fans, he needs a bit rational fans.

@Megafanoftennis100 is not blindly loyal (though he is irrational). Just the other day, he said that Sinner is to Fonseca as Anakin Skywalker is to Luke Skywalker. Now, of course, that in fact means that Sinner is more talented than Fonseca, and if that's what megafan meant, it would have been being blindly loyal. But he meant that Fonseca might become an upgrade on Sinner, which is hardly showing blind loyalty to Sinner.

 

[Zeref123]

Yes, but in case you did not notice, I shortly afterward posted a thread declaring that I deeply regret my decision of ditching Sinner for Fonseca, and am thus now back to being a Sinner fan, like I always should have.
Here is the thread for your reference, btw:

Thread 'Sinner, please come back! I am so sorry!!'

Jun 2, 2026

OK, guys, PLEASE forget all the nonsense I said over the past week about switching from being a Sinner fan to being a Fonseca fan!

I deeply regret it.

No way in hell is Fonseca better than Sinner. No way in hell is Fonseca more naturally talented than Sinner (although he does have a better FH, I give you that). And no way in the deepest depths of hell would Fonseca ever even come close to threatening Rafa on clay.

Fonseca just had a fluke win against a 39 year old Djokovic, barely escaped a loss against a guy who was too nice to protest against being robbed of an entire set, and then...

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Please tell me you are more than 12 years old and you are simply trolling...

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Please tell me you are more than 12 years old and you are simply trolling...

I am 36 years old.

 

[Zeref123]

I am 36 years old.

Then you must be trolling. And even in that case, at 36 trolling this much...

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Then you must be trolling. And even in that case, at 36 trolling this much...

Look, in case you didn't notice by now... I am not really living my best life at 36.
Sure, I did peak during high school and during college and all that... but afterward... let's just say, life has been harsh on me.

 

[Mustard]

Isner serve is the greatest upgrade you can get in tennis, unless your name is Karlovic.

Ivanisevic?

If Nadal had Ivanisevic's serve, the question would be if Nadal wins by baseline rallies or by a load of aces/service winners.

 

[BlueB]

Ivanisevic?

If Nadal had Ivanisevic's serve, the question would be if Nadal wins by baseline rallies or by a load of aces/service winners.

Yeah, I guess Goran qualifies, along with Rodick, Sampras, even Fed... But I still think Ivo and John are head and shoulders (pun intended) above the rest of servbotting crowd.

 

[messiahrobins]

Just like the title asks.

Imagine Novak Djokovic keeping everything else in his game the same except for his forehand. His FH gets upgraded to Joao Fonseca's FH.
Then imagine Rafa Nadal keeping everything else in his game the same except for his serve. His serve gets upgraded to Isner's serve.

And as for Federer, well, he remains as he is throughout the Big 3 era.

Who would then end up with more Grand Slam titles between Djokovic and Nadal?

Me with Isner's serve...Zverev would have hated our FH-FH exchanges...

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Me with Isner's serve...Zverev would have hated our FH-FH exchanges...

??
Sir, with all due respect, aren't you currently 51 years old?
Even one of the absolute GOATs with one of the very best forehands of all time (Roger Federer) at 44 (7 years younger than you) would lose badly to Zverev in FH-FH exchanges.

 

[messiahrobins]

??
Sir, with all due respect, aren't you currently 51 years old?
Even one of the absolute GOATs with one of the very best forehands of all time (Roger Federer) at 44 (7 years younger than you) would lose badly to Zverev in FH-FH exchanges.

What makes you think that? I look 31 btw....

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

What makes you think that? I look 31 btw....

Oh sorry, my bad.

When I look at your profile info, it says:

G.O.A.T. · 51
Joined May 21, 2023

That is why I inferred that you are 51 years old right now.

 

[messiahrobins]

Oh sorry, my bad.

When I look at your profile info, it says:

G.O.A.T. · 51
Joined May 21, 2023

That is why I inferred that you are 51 years old right now.

51 the new 31...

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

51 the new 31...

Ohh so you are in denial? (no offense)
Look, I get it myself as well. We hate aging and would love to stay young and in our prime forever.
I am currently 36 y.o. but I just wish that I could go back to being 17-18 years old again. I keep dreaming about it every day.
And in fact, when I first registered on this forum back in Summer of 2023, I even indicated my age as being "17" because I myself was also unwilling to accept the sobering reality that I am an old man who has far passed his prime.

 

[Racquet_smash]

Djokovic with a worse forehand than his own.

I wonder i wonder