Who would win? Federer 2006 v Djokovic 2011
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Going into the final Federer was in better form in 2008 than in 2007. What happened in the final also depends on the opponent, who definitely improved his level from 2007 to 2008.
In 2010 and 2011 US open he played close to his best against Djokovic. In general, matches against Djokovic brings the best out of Fed.
Nadal won Queens and had a better Wimbledon in general until the final. It is also a natural progress for a player at that age. Besides some of us actually watched those matches and felt it ourselves.
You can say whatever you like. It is an opinion. Everyone has one.
I don't agree. I felt Federer was playing better in the grass season in 2008 than in 2007. He did not start the final well, I agree with that but after that he was good enough to stretch it to 5 sets. Also 26-27 is pretty much the same age range. Players don't necessarily decline from 26 to 27.
Michael88
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Yeah, it's a classic case of assuming the conclusion. In other words, circular reasoning.
Yes a year can be a huge difference when you are growing. For example 2003 Federer was much better than 2002 Federer.
First of all I was talking about the matches against Djokovic. Yes in those matches he was quite close to his peak level. I mean the guy can still get back to that level occasionally(Shanghai last year). So it should not surprise anyone that he played at a high level in 2010/11 USO against Djokovic, could have won both of those matches.
Nadal's prime in general is 2008-2013, however his grass peak was slightly different. I would say 2007-2012. In 2012 it was a shock defeat. He was playing well enough to beat Rosol but Rosol just played an unbelievable fifth set. From 2013 he has definitely declined on grass.
ICYMI I was talking about the grass season not the whole year.
Michael88
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augustobt
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Federer 2011 post-US Open is the closest Federer played to resemble his 2006 peak, but still far away.Who would win 2011 Federer vs 2006 Federer?
Don't come with this "Djokovic straight settled federer at AO 2011". This is bullcrap said by who has not watched that match and only reads the result on wikipedia and go with that. Federer had MULTIPLE chances on the first set and even served for the set in the second. Not to mention the multiple break points that he blew in such a pathetical way in the third.
"What about canada 2007" ***** pls... Federer straight setted him in the US Open final. AO 2008, the major Federer entered with mono, seriously? Then we go again to the US Open, where Federer toyed with ND for two years in a row (smash lob in 2008 and the gran willy in 2009).
But getting back to 2011, we're talking about a 30yo guy way post his prime, 4 years after his peak, against someone else in the beginning of his absolutely peak. Not to mention that tennis class Novak suffered in roland garros semi-final (the finger wag) and the fact that Federer was one point away from bashing him away in the US Open.
Not to mention that a year latter, an even older Federer bageled ND in Cincinatti final. I think that is pretty clear that Federer 2006 would dismantle Djokovic 2011 in little pieces no matter what court they'd play, but on Cincinnati or Wimbledon would be just pitiful for nole.
Hey, it was circular, but it was fun.
Fed didn't have to play vs himself, so his competition was weak. Others had to play Federer, they had it much tougher.
Is the glass half full or half empty?
Talk about hypocrisy LOL.
I can't keep up with so many Fed fans at once. I did not change my opinion that peak Djokovic would match up with any version of Federer on hard and clay courts.
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Nah done, just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy.
djoker of darkness
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Not a fan of these peaks vs peaks mainly down the fact they faced different opposition. But heres my opinion anyway
Ao- peak djokovic 8/10 wins
french open-peak fed 6/10 wins
wimbledon-peak fed 8/10
us open-peak fed wins 6/10 wins
btw to me this whole fed when he was 33 took djokovic to 5 setw blah blah, or he beat djokovic in 2011 at french open and he was a point away from beating him at the us open, well guess what he never accept it.
also its ironic how literally has been brought up of when djoker who was 20 at the time schooled fed in straight sets in feds prime and that in feds prime a 34 yr old agassi took fed to 5 sets. But overall yes fed is a problem match up for djokovic part from at the ao where djokovic wins comfortably
Ao- peak djokovic 8/10 wins
french open-peak fed 6/10 wins
wimbledon-peak fed 8/10
us open-peak fed wins 6/10 wins
btw to me this whole fed when he was 33 took djokovic to 5 setw blah blah, or he beat djokovic in 2011 at french open and he was a point away from beating him at the us open, well guess what he never accept it.
also its ironic how literally has been brought up of when djoker who was 20 at the time schooled fed in straight sets in feds prime and that in feds prime a 34 yr old agassi took fed to 5 sets. But overall yes fed is a problem match up for djokovic part from at the ao where djokovic wins comfortably
augustobt
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Did you watched that match? Djokovic only had real chances in the first set in that match, where in fact he served for it - and had 5 set points in his serve - he served 40-0 to begin with.
On the second that break of serve was written all over it as Federer was struggling with his kick on the second serve, but he bounced back just to level 4-4. Had a couple of set points of Federer serve (saved with an ace, the swiss saved almost every single break point he faced with winners or aces), and then eventually lost that set in a DTL backhand winner from Federer.
Curiously, that's kinda how the first set tie-break in the AO2011 ended, but with the ball stopping in the net. It represents well the difference between Federer in his prime to his elderly version.
Michael88
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I wouldn't call a mono-stricken Federer prime Federer.
It's funny people mention this one match with Agassi, forgetting that Federer beat Agassi 8 times in a row. Or the 2005 Australian Open match, where Federer beat Agassi in straight sets. When you play someone 8 times, some matches will be closer than others, like the US Open match was. What's important is that prime Federer NEVER lost to old Agassi. 33 year-old Federer led 27 year-old Djokovic 3-2 in the head-to-head.
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Nathaniel_Near
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Well Stan seems to be a late bloomer capable of peaking in his mid-late 20's.
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Deleted member 307496
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He's an exception.
Players that peaked earlier on, like Sampras, Federer, ect. generally don't keep improving after the age of 26. In Wawrinka's case his initial peak came late for him.
Tsebadoyswonk
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AO: 9/10 Djokovic
FO: 6/10 Djokovic
W: 7/10 Federer
USO: 5/5
FO: 6/10 Djokovic
W: 7/10 Federer
USO: 5/5
vanioMan
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Wake me up when Djokovic pushes 2005-2008ClayDal like Federer did.
More like 6-4 or 7-3 in favor of Fed.
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Lmao..
AO: 7/10 - Djokovic.
FO - 6/10 - Federer.
W - 10/10 Federer.
USO - 7/10 Federer.
Tsebadoyswonk
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Are you by any chance telling me Federer pushed Nadal more on clay than Djokovic? Im not convinced and Djokovic career aint even over.
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