Who's outfits are great and who's aren't?

SpinToWin said:
Fed's actually was okay (aside from the shorts, which were a bit too much for my taste). I agree that Kyrgios' outfit looks... Off.

I also really dislike the black Adidas outfits with the grey stripes at the rear. It looks so... Weird. Kinda clown-like.

I am also curious to see whether Djoko will use exactly that outfit, or whether a few details will be different. Looks cool though (perhaps a bit too plain though).
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This was boring
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He had same in Rome, Madrid, Istanbul
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and Monte Carlo
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Really liked Roger-Vasselin's get up today and Stanimal's is still terrible. Waiting to see what Caroline looks like tomorrow!
 
I actually think Berdych's outfit this year is pretty good. Certainly a lot better than some of his previous outfits.
 
Fed as usual has a truly ugly outfit with shorts that far too short. At least his racquets used to look sharp with the white and gold but he's lost that too now.
 
jwjh said:
Are Fed's shorts pink or orange? I see pink
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That is red.

To the topic: I usually love Nadals clothing choices and style, but it sucks this week. Not good at all.

Djokovic is nice though. I like berdych's aswell.
 
Don't like Fed's outfit. Why are so many wearing some sort of blue/purple and pink outfit?

Nadal's looks really good, usually like Fed's gear and not so much Nadal but great coulor choice with Nadal's
 
Many great ones. Djokovic has a nice one, in contrast to his usual Soviet-style attire. Nadal also has one of his best in a long time. A good match for him.

Fed looks like something you'd get in a smoothie bar, but it suits him anyways. Sorta' bold.

Oh, and Masha looking stunning.
 
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Kyrgios' and Fed's are the same colors but inverted. It's not pink, it's coral neon (I read somewhere). Halys used the same colors

Rafa's kit looks as if he was held by the vamp of his shoes by uncle Tony and submerged in a tank of blue humbaliness

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Towser83 said:
which is why he looks classy and good in a suit, while Nadal's beach bum looks suit tacky garish clothes more
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Rafa not choosing good suits most of the time. After all he isnt the type of person to work with Ana Wintor. Rafa has a better physic then Roger in my opinion even for suits.
 
mistik said:
Rafa not choosing good suits most of the time. After all he isnt the type of person to work with Ana Wintor. Rafa has a better physic then Roger in my opinion even for suits.
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It's not just about physique, Rafa has the wrong face and hair to look good in a suit. Fed probably looked terrible in a suit when he had a pony tail.
 
mistik said:
Sorry but big nose ugly smile Fed has a better face for the suits give me a break.
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Federer looks the best in a suit. Like him or hate him, you have to admit that. He has the best tailored and nicest suits. He has a great physique for suits. Tall, broad shoulders. He wins that contest amongst the Big Four hands down.
 
cc0509 said:
Federer looks the best in a suit. Like him or hate him, you have to admit that. He has the best tailored and nicest suits. He has a great physique for suits. Tall, broad shoulders. He wins that contest amongst the Big Four hands down.
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If you picture Federer as the hippie in 1999 he was, no he doesn't look good in a suit. He only fits the suit because of the image that he has promoted for himself over the years. Nadal, Djokovic and Murray could fit just as nicely into Armani had they promoted themselves as the suave gentlemanly Hugo Boss character that Federer's PR has created. Ain't about the suit or the man.
 
Inanimate_object said:
If you picture Federer as the hippie in 1999 he was, no he doesn't look good in a suit. He only fits the suit because of the image that he has promoted for himself over the years. Nadal, Djokovic and Murray could fit just as nicely into Armani had they promoted themselves as the suave gentlemanly Hugo Boss character that Federer's PR has created. Ain't about the suit or the man.
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There is no doubt that Federer's image is part of it. But it is what it is and he looks the best in a suit and his suits are the nicest amongst the Big Four. It is not even worth a discussion imo.
 
cc0509 said:
There is no doubt that Federer's image is part of it. But it is what it is and he looks the best in a suit and his suits are the nicest amongst the Big Four. It is not even worth a discussion imo.
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Doubtful. Again, picture that weird hippie kid in 1999 against Murray in a Hugo Boss. Murray pulls it off better, and I'm sure both Nadal and Djokovic can pull it off. It's entirely about what people see in Federer which translates to how they seem him in a suit.
 
Inanimate_object said:
Doubtful. Again, picture that weird hippie kid in 1999 against Murray in a Hugo Boss. Murray pulls it off better, and I'm sure both Nadal and Djokovic can pull it off. It's entirely about what people see in Federer which translates to how they seem him in a suit.
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I am saying that Federer's image is a part of it but who cares what it is? He has the best tailored suits and looks the most comfortable in them amongst the Big Four. Some things just ARE. Nadal beats the crap out of Federer on clay, Novak has underachieved at the slams since 2011, and Federer looks the best in a suit. :mrgreen:
 
Inanimate_object said:
Doubtful. Again, picture that weird hippie kid in 1999 against Murray in a Hugo Boss. Murray pulls it off better, and I'm sure both Nadal and Djokovic can pull it off. It's entirely about what people see in Federer which translates to how they seem him in a suit.
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Well, clearly he was different in 1999, but that doesn't mean it's the same today.

And secondly, yes, Fed's image-machinery certainly helps. But it's plainly not random that they have chosen to mould this image to such an extant precisely for Federer. He has qualities, looks and an aura that suits this style. This is how branding works.

And besides, it's not merely an illusion of expectation—Fed's image-machinery also supplies him with the consistently sharp outfits and suits. Rafa on the other hand has often come out like this (although he too has improved with added fame/help):

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mistik said:
Sorry but big nose ugly smile Fed has a better face for the suits give me a break.
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Still looks bettr in a suit yes. Pig nose, donkey teeth Nadal looks best with long hair in beach wear. I will give him that. Hair is not right for a suit either, too messy.
 
Inanimate_object said:
If you picture Federer as the hippie in 1999 he was, no he doesn't look good in a suit. He only fits the suit because of the image that he has promoted for himself over the years. Nadal, Djokovic and Murray could fit just as nicely into Armani had they promoted themselves as the suave gentlemanly Hugo Boss character that Federer's PR has created. Ain't about the suit or the man.
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I disagree. Some people suit certain looks better than others, that's just how it is. Federer did not look good with his pony tail, but he does suit the smarter look, wearing suits or polo shirts on court. Djokovic and even Murray look pretty good in suits, but they look a tad too gangly and awkward. They do both look better for having a tidy hairstyle though (Well Murray sometimes does) Nadal looks like a slightly scruffy beach dude you put in a suit but he doesn't like it. But he is the one with the most "cool" image. Certain people can do both but that's rare. None of these guys are Jame Dean or Steve McQueen.
 
Rafaisdabest said:
I'm re starting this thread for RG Who's liking Nick Kyrgios' outfit? I am :)
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I liked a whole lot -- real good branding -- before he opened his mouth and ruined it.

:roll:

I do like Rafa's ombre kit, though. Very much. And Roger's - with those "neon coral" shorts, LOL - is growing on me.
 
Just want to say I love Carla's new outfit. I thought the old one didn't suit her style at all (the black frilly one) but the new one looks perfect on her.
 
Towser83 said:
I disagree. Some people suit certain looks better than others, that's just how it is. Federer did not look good with his pony tail, but he does suit the smarter look, wearing suits or polo shirts on court. Djokovic and even Murray look pretty good in suits, but they look a tad too gangly and awkward. They do both look better for having a tidy hairstyle though (Well Murray sometimes does) Nadal looks like a slightly scruffy beach dude you put in a suit but he doesn't like it. But he is the one with the most "cool" image. Certain people can do both but that's rare. None of these guys are Jame Dean or Steve McQueen.
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Fair enough, but you are proving my point. Nadal looks like he doesn't fit a suit because you don't expect him to - because he hasn't made you expect to. Federer doesn't look smarter. He promotes himself as being smarter. THAT is what you are seeing when you see Federer in the suit. You are seeing him as he desires to portray himself. It has nothing to do with the suit. You see this alot from people who wear suits often , that they wear them well. It's not because they got used to the suit, it's because people around them got used to them in a suit.
 
Sysyphus said:
Well, clearly he was different in 1999, but that doesn't mean it's the same today.

And secondly, yes, Fed's image-machinery certainly helps. But it's plainly not random that they have chosen to mould this image to such an extant precisely for Federer. He has qualities, looks and an aura that suits this style. This is how branding works.

And besides, it's not merely an illusion of expectation—Fed's image-machinery also supplies him with the consistently sharp outfits and suits. Rafa on the other hand has often come out like this (although he too has improved with added fame/help):

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Lol that is indeed pretty bad, I wonder what he (or his team) was thinking. It's not like he couldn't afford a better fitting suit...
 
Inanimate_object said:
Fair enough, but you are proving my point. Nadal looks like he doesn't fit a suit because you don't expect him to - because he hasn't made you expect to. Federer doesn't look smarter. He promotes himself as being smarter. THAT is what you are seeing when you see Federer in the suit. You are seeing him as he desires to portray himself. It has nothing to do with the suit. You see this alot from people who wear suits often , that they wear them well. It's not because they got used to the suit, it's because people around them got used to them in a suit.
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No. Nadal looks like he doesn't fit a suit because he doesn't fit a suit.Nadal's physical appearence does not look good in a suit as much as Federer, just the way Federer's physical appearence doesn't look as good in neon colours and wouldn't look good in long shorts and sleevless shirts no matter how much he wore them.

It's nothing to do with expecting him to wear suits or not. Certain looks suit certain people. 99% of the time you see Federer he is not wearing a suit, he is wearing sports gear. It's not like I'm so used to seeing him in a suit. And it's not just a suit, but generally smart looking apparel.
 
ruerooo said:
Also, if those are your most recent representations of Rafa in a suit then you haven't seen him lately.

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He looks better since he cut his hair shorter but still doesn't suit the look as much as his on court look imo. Love his outfit this year at RG. Fed's is to loud and garish.
 
Towser83 said:
No. Nadal looks like he doesn't fit a suit because he doesn't fit a suit.Nadal's physical appearence does not look good in a suit as much as Federer, just the way Federer's physical appearence doesn't look as good in neon colours and wouldn't look good in long shorts and sleevless shirts no matter how much he wore them.

It's nothing to do with expecting him to wear suits or not. Certain looks suit certain people. 99% of the time you see Federer he is not wearing a suit, he is wearing sports gear. It's not like I'm so used to seeing him in a suit. And it's not just a suit, but generally smart looking apparel.
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Sleek fitting Armani suits for the graceful and affluent. Sleeveless shirts and shorts for the work-horse. Athletic wear for the man with no distinct fashion identity and serviceable upper-class suit jackets for the man hailing from a country rich with heritage of such things. You cannot separate how you see these men from how you want to see them, and how they choose to be seen. It's simply not done.
 
Inanimate_object said:
Sleek fitting Armani suits for the graceful and affluent. Sleeveless shirts and shorts for the work-horse. Athletic wear for the man with no distinct fashion identity and serviceable upper-class suit jackets for the man hailing from a country rich with heritage of such things. You cannot separate how you see these men from how you want to see them, and how they choose to be seen. It's simply not done.
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You certainly have a point, and there's no doubt that our expectations and what the marketers convey shape our perceptions, but alluding that it's fully and wholly an illusion of expectation, and that we aren't capable of distancing ourselves to make a fair judgement on who has the best suits and who looks better in them—that's pushing it very far. Do you not agree that Fed on average gets the most fashionably outfits?
 
Inanimate_object said:
Sleek fitting Armani suits for the graceful and affluent. Sleeveless shirts and shorts for the work-horse. Athletic wear for the man with no distinct fashion identity and serviceable upper-class suit jackets for the man hailing from a country rich with heritage of such things. You cannot separate how you see these men from how you want to see them, and how they choose to be seen. It's simply not done.
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Sorry dude, your class based sob story babble doesn't hold much water. People are diffferent. Certain people look better wearing certain things. There's a reason the images has been cultivated in the first place. You favour what you look good in.

End of story.
 
Sysyphus said:
You certainly have a point, and there's no doubt that our expectations and what the marketers convey shape our perceptions, but alluding that it's fully and wholly an illusion of expectation, and that we aren't capable of distancing ourselves to make a fair judgement on who has the best suits and who looks better in them—that's pushing it very far. Do you not agree that Fed on average gets the most fashionably outfits?
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I cannot or should not speak to how you perceive things. All I can say is that it is clear to me that Federer looks better in suits because it looks authentic and natural. And the authenticity has been cultivated and carefully crafted for years to achieve this. If 1999 Federer were to wear the clothes he wears now, it would be nonsense. We would say: "What is he doing? This kid looks like a goofball." This echoes the common notion of Nadal in suits: "He clearly looks uncomfortable wearing this black-tie attire and would rather have a tee and loose shorts to pick his bum to his content."

Should Nadal/Djokovic/Murray have wanted the same image as Federer, I guarantee they could pull the suit off like Federer. Someone previously mentioned Federer is no James Dean, and that is true. How then can Federer pull off this style? Because we buy it. And because everything we know of Federer and that he wants us to think of him, makes the idea of Federer and Armani seem right. For myself, I can't objectively assess how Federer looks in suits. I've already bought into his mythos too deeply
 
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