generous50
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Who is your favorite current male tennis players right now? What are their upsides and downsides to the sport? What is their risk/reward factor for the sport?
Who's your favorite current male tennis player? What are their pros and cons?
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Mayonnaise
Banned
Nadal:
Upside: More shouting, grunting, biting, and picking
Downside: More stalling, MTOs, cheating, and bumping
Djokovic:
Upside: More chest-thumping, attention-seeking, clapping, and splitting
Downside: More domination because of weak era
generous50
Rookie
What are MTO's?
tipsa...don'tlikehim!
Talk Tennis Guru
Berlocq:
Pros: fighting and best attitude on the court
Cons: NONE
Pros: fighting and best attitude on the court
Cons: NONE
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Medical time out's
Rock Strongo
Legend
Current favorite is Raonic.
Pros: Great serve, good forehand, great volleys.
Cons: Just about everything else.
BUT. Despite his many flaws, I like him. There might be much better players, but I like him.
Pros: Great serve, good forehand, great volleys.
Cons: Just about everything else.
BUT. Despite his many flaws, I like him. There might be much better players, but I like him.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Other than Fed I like Gilles Simon:
Pros: Aesthetically pleasing game(especially backhand), consistency when playing, whacks the ball for winners unexpectedly.
Cons: Can get pushed around, usually not enough firepower, serve.
Also looks like Cedric Diggory from Harry Potter at times.... I'll leave that up to you to decide if that is a pro or con..
Pros: Aesthetically pleasing game(especially backhand), consistency when playing, whacks the ball for winners unexpectedly.
Cons: Can get pushed around, usually not enough firepower, serve.
Also looks like Cedric Diggory from Harry Potter at times.... I'll leave that up to you to decide if that is a pro or con..
triforce defender
Semi-Pro
Rafael Nadal
Pros: Competitive fire, fantastic personality, exciting to watch
Cons: Too injury-prone
Richard Gasquet
Pros: Beautiful all-court game, fantastic backhand, reliable pigeon for Nadal
Cons: Failed to close out Kyrgios at Wimbledon and pave way for Nadal to make Wimbledon Final this year
Pros: Competitive fire, fantastic personality, exciting to watch
Cons: Too injury-prone
Richard Gasquet
Pros: Beautiful all-court game, fantastic backhand, reliable pigeon for Nadal
Cons: Failed to close out Kyrgios at Wimbledon and pave way for Nadal to make Wimbledon Final this year
SamprasisGOAT
Hall of Fame
John Isner because I always root for Americans.
pros- his serve is the best around, hes a decent bloke, nice lacoste kit,hes from north carolina the same place as eric church
cons-he'll never win anything,his movement and double backhand, he chokes
out of the big 4 its federer
pros- his serve is the best around, hes a decent bloke, nice lacoste kit,hes from north carolina the same place as eric church
cons-he'll never win anything,his movement and double backhand, he chokes
out of the big 4 its federer
AssaultJoker
Banned
:lol::lol::lol:
You make Fed look bad with bringing up weak era argument since he dominated an era when Ljubicic was №3. No era cannot be weaker than Fed's 04-06 era.
Gonzo_style
Hall of Fame
Mayonnaise
Banned
Deeper field. Look at Ferrer. He wasn't able to do anything in the strong era of 2004-2007 even though he was in his prime. Now, as a 30 year-old grandpa in 2012, he was doing so much better because of weak competition :lol:
Definite proof of 2010-2014 being a weak era
Gonzo_style
Hall of Fame
Deeper field. Look at Ferrer. He wasn't able to do anything in the strong era of 2004-2007 even though he was in his prime. Now, as a 30 year-old grandpa in 2012, he was doing so much better because of weak competition :lol:
Definite proof of 2010-2014 being a weak era
LMAO Ferrer was in Top 5 in 2007, you really don't watch tennis, do you?
Mayonnaise
Banned
LMAO Ferrer was in Top 5 in 2007, you really don't watch tennis, do you?
Yes, he was top 5 in the strong era in his prime. And top 3 in 2013 as a grandpa :lol:
President
Legend
Deeper field. Look at Ferrer. He wasn't able to do anything in the strong era of 2004-2007 even though he was in his prime. Now, as a 30 year-old grandpa in 2012, he was doing so much better because of weak competition :lol:
Definite proof of 2010-2014 being a weak era
To be fair to Ferrer, he did change his game around 2011. In his early years on tour, he really was a genuinely defensive player. He has become much more aggressive over the years, to the point where he almost plays like Davydenko or Agassi (takes the ball very early, dictates the point from the beginning off the return of serve, runs the opponent around). It's not like the field magically got so much worse that he found himself in the top 5 by accident.
tipsa...don'tlikehim!
Talk Tennis Guru
@President and @Gonzo, you won't convince him. We tried 10 pages on the other thread, if you guys succeed, I pay you both a pint if you get around my place
and lol @Mayonnaise bringing the weak era discussion in every damn thread around, obsession (he's actually probably trying to convince himself of what he's writing !!
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and lol @Mayonnaise bringing the weak era discussion in every damn thread around, obsession (he's actually probably trying to convince himself of what he's writing !!
Mayonnaise
Banned
@President and @Gonzo, you won't convince him. We tried 10 pages on the other thread, if you guys succeed, I pay you both a pint if you get around my place
and lol @Mayonnaise bringing the weak era discussion in every damn thread around, obsession (he's actually probably trying to convince himself of what he's writing !!)
I gave you definite proof of why this era is weak
Gonzo_style
Hall of Fame
Ferrer was a late bloomer, and yes #3 in 2013 with GS final, SF and 2 QF, whats wrong with that?
Ljubicic was #3 in 2006 with RG SF (LMAO draw) and Zagreb title
AssaultJoker
Banned
OK, let's go by you limited logic. Davydenko was top 3 in 06, in 2013 he was outside top50. 04-06 era - weakest ever.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-from-a-weak-era-can-we-discount-his-gs-tally
tipsa...don'tlikehim!
Talk Tennis Guru
I gave you definite proof of why this era is weak
that was not a proof by any mean :-|
Tennis sensation
Legend
Fognini.
The only pro is that he has so many cons.
The only pro is that he has so many cons.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
simon... aesthetically pleasing game ??? :shock:
well, tastes and colours......
generous50
Rookie
Nadal basically doesn't have so many downsides...he won some big games and lost some big ones, but I guess his biggest downside is that he's lost some winnable games, but he's low-risk, low-reward.
generous50
Rookie
Nadal doesn't detract fans from the game...he adds fans, just like Federer and Djokovic, he's simply do no harm.
Mayonnaise
Banned
Davydenko was in his prime in 2006, and an old man in 2013. If we were to follow your logic:
Djokovic ended 2006 ranked #16.
Djokovic ended 2011 ranked #1.
Hence, 2006 was a lot stronger than 2011 :lol:
Mayonnaise
Banned
Prime 24 year-old Ferrer could only finish #14 in the strong era of 2006. 2012/2013 were so weak that he able to get to #3 as a 31 year-old grandpa :lol:
Deep and strong field. Even top players had trouble making it deep in Slams because there were so many dangerous players around
Unlike today's black hole era where there is no competition at all and grandpas like Federer and Ferrer can get to #1 and #3 :lol:
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Prime Ferrer could only finish #14 in the strong era of 2006. 2012/2013 were so weak that he able to get to #3 as a grandpa :lol:
Deep and strong field. Even top players had trouble making it deep in Slams because there were so many dangerous players around
I tell you something Mayo- if Ferrer really is a grandpa, he has to be the fittest one I've ever seen!
Mayonnaise
Banned
I tell you something Mayo- if Ferrer really is a grandpa, he has to be the fittest one I've ever seen!
He looks fit because this a weak era for fitness
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
He looks fit because this a weak era for fitness
I love you! :razz:
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
simon... aesthetically pleasing game ??? :shock:
well, tastes and colours......
Yeah definitely! To me at least! I absolutley LOVE his groundstrokes, especially when goes to put a little bit more juice on them!
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
He looks fit because this a weak era for fitness
Mayonnaise and Djoko2011 sitting on a tree......k..i..s...s..I..n..g ..........:twisted:
Mayonnaise
Banned
I think you should go to the Nadal News thread, where everyone is... ahem... excited... about Nadal going sleeveless for the USO :twisted:
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer:
Pros: Beautiful game, astounding touch and a great guy.
Cons: ... Convert your breakpoints and chances Roger... Please...
Dimitrov:
Pros: Exciting game with ridiculous improvisations/demonstrations of his talent.
Cons: Stop sliding like you're walking on ice and get some consistency and a good gameplan for crying out loud
Pros: Beautiful game, astounding touch and a great guy.
Cons: ... Convert your breakpoints and chances Roger... Please...
Dimitrov:
Pros: Exciting game with ridiculous improvisations/demonstrations of his talent.
Cons: Stop sliding like you're walking on ice and get some consistency and a good gameplan for crying out loud
Mayonnaise
Banned
Gonzo_style
Hall of Fame
You're a troll. I'm done with you.
Mayonnaise
Banned
I gave you facts, I'm sorry they disturb you so :lol:
Gonzo_style
Hall of Fame
Mayonnaise
Banned
What facts? That Ljubicic lost 2 times in a row to GOAT Lopez?
Better to lose to Lopez than Darcis/Rosol :lol:
Gonzo_style
Hall of Fame
Mayonnaise
Banned
You forgot Swarovski crystals
Exactly. A grandpa that lost to Stakhovsky in 2013 makes the final next year and almost wins it :lol:
What a pathetic field :lol:
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Gonzo_style
Hall of Fame
almost doesn't count
Africanus played 2 USO finals in 2010 and '11........almost! :twisted:
Mayonnaise
Banned
almost doesn't count
Yep. Even a grandpa can do so well because this is a weak field :lol:
Mayonnaise
Banned
Last year's Wimbledon was around the time the strong era ended.
How is 2012, when a 31 year-old became #1, and the #3 went missing for half the season, a strong era?
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Are you saying that you've been expecting Federer to go out in the early rounds of every slam since 2010? :shock:
Mayonnaise
Banned
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
Why would I expect that in such a weak era?
The competition isn't just djokovic and nadal you know. there are other great players out there
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Why would I expect that in such a weak era?
You can't have it both ways then.
Mayonnaise
Banned
Are you serious? When was the last time there was no Slam winner below the age of 26? There is absolutely no resistance from the field or the young players.
I ask again: when was the last time there was no Slam winner below the age of 26?
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