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What is going on? There are more players over thirty in the round of 16 at Wimbledon than under 30. What's the reason for the success not only of big 3 but other veteran players? You can make multiple choices in the poll.
Shapovalov is the biggest offender of mindless ball bashing among the younger generation.1. Fedalovic being Fedalovic
2. Lack of variety. Tsitsipas and Shapo are the only ones with more than just mindless baseline bashing. The rest are just some version or another of a poor man's Lendl.
3. Lack of fight. Thiem is a big exception, but the rest just don't seem to have the grit of Nadal, Djokovic, Murray. De Minaur is another exception but he doesn't have the weapons to go along with it. This one I believe can change soon, unlike the other 2 problems.
@1990's GraphiteFognini threatening younger kids with explosives, Federer intimidating them with long chest hairs, Djokovic roaring like a lion, Nadal 's smelly fingers, Murray scaring them with metal hip stories, Karlovic launching nukes.... these kids have a reason.
I hope others appreciate the brilliance that is this post.Fognini threatening younger kids with explosives, Federer intimidating them with long chest hairs, Djokovic roaring like a lion, Nadal 's smelly fingers, Murray scaring them with metal hip stories, Karlovic launching nukes.... these kids have a reason.
No way. At least Shapo comes to net once and a while and has some good touch.Shapovalov is the biggest offender of mindless ball bashing among the younger generation.
They're bashers...I like Karen's serve and forehand a lot. Pretty lookingNo way. At least Shapo comes to net once and a while and has some good touch.
If you want the brainless basher poster children look at Khachanov and Rublev. Paleolithic caveman tennis at its finest.
That is actually a very interesting point.Nadal was born in 86, ND in 1987, and Fed in 81. So each one of them would have developed their games before the new racket and string technologies were developed.
This! The ‘modern’ forehand is a joke - coaches should go back to teaching Lendl forehands.The biggest weakness of the under-30 players is forehand. None of them have a Gonzalez/Delpo/Roddick forehand, and some, like Zverev and Coric, have trash forehands. The forehand is the stroke most affected by the new racquets. Most backhands are hit the same, but it's the form on the forehand that's changed *for the worse.* That's why I posted the video of Coric's forehand. There's no big forehands because they're not trained to hit the sweet spot in the racket, they're not trained for accuracy.
So how come none of the new gen have better forehands than Delpo or Gonzo? Sport has moved on, right? Backhands are better, serve is better . . . so what happened to forehands? Where are the monster forehands?This! The ‘modern’ forehand is a joke - coaches should go back to teaching Lendl forehands.
Evolution went in the wrong direction. Spin was emphasized over accuracy. The problem is that at the top of the rankings, accuracy matters more than anything else.So how come none of the new gen have better forehands than Delpo or Gonzo? Sport has moved on, right? Backhands are better, serve is better . . . so what happened to forehands? Where are the monster forehands?
Never heard this theory, I like it.I think the best explanation is the rackets. The old rackets required more accuracy, and juniors learned to hit accurately because there was immediate feedback. The new rackets are the equivalent of widening the basketball rim by a foot. Would shooting accuracy decline if young basketball players learned to shoot on the new, wider basket rim? Yeah, of course. It's the same with the rackets. New rackets encourage less accurate strokes. Look at Coric's windmill forehand.
Yeah, but the difference here is that they don't have collective force of the Fedalovic to deal with in their respective primes, like Berdychs, Nishikoris and Cilics did!...Something to consider! Which is why it is curious to actually see how all those Berdych/Nishikori/Cilic level players will do, when Big-3 inevitably retires sooner, than the last member of big-3 calls it quits! I am going to bet all my belonging that if Berdych, Cilic or Nishikori were next-gen players now they would LOVE their position without Fedalovic to have to deal with on regular basis! Especially Berdych! He would be probably 10 times grand slam champion if it was the case! LOLMedvedev, Khachanov, Zverev et al are Berdych, Cilic, Nishikori level players.
Any wonder why the same old are still doing the same old??
Exactly.Lansdorp knows as much about forehands as anybody and he's said that the player has to know how to hit the ball hard and flat right over the net, that's the core skill. Nobody does that any longer. Net clearance is now much greater than that. And if I sound like old man shouting at clouds, it's undeniable that the young players don't match up. They can't beat a 38 year old man! Thiem can't beat a Nadal who is a shell of what he once was. Imagine peak Nadal against Thiem, it would be no contest. Or peak Fed on clay against Thiem.