Why are you a fan of Zverev?

FedFanBoy

Rookie
Are you a fan because of his game or his personality/looks? I don't get why everyone is going nuts for him. He seems boring. Nadal and Fed at his age had something about them that was exciting. So, if you are his fan I'd like to hear from you. Thanks. He has a great game but even if he wins multiple slams I don't see myself warming up to him.
 

K-H

Hall of Fame
Maybe because there hasn't been a 20 year old this good since the big 4.

It's not like there's a list of 20 year olds who are capable of winning big tournaments right now. There's only one player that fits that description and it's zverev.

Plus he can play on all surfaces and can go toe to toe with most players on the baseline. He's not your average joe(no offence to all joe's out there).

He's not necessarily the most exciting player. But I don't mind watching him play.
 
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Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
He's boring personality wise imo and can be Kyrgios level petulant at times but maybe I'll grow on him at some point. He definitely has a lot of talent.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
He does have good hair/style, but I like him because he's probably the first person his age since Del Potro to actually appear to have a set of testicles. Having had to suffer through the lamest generation of tennis players maybe ever assembled, watching somebody actually achieving what he's doing this year, and clearly hungry to do more, be so stupidly ambitious, is a breath of fresh air. His game is irrelevant, he's just turned 20, he has plenty of time to develop all that. Kyrgios has a comparatively massive arsenal, and look at what he's doing with it. At this stage it's the mental side that I think is infinitely more important, because it's been proven again and again that it ain't the strokes alone that are going to do it.
 

Noelan

Legend
His BH esp CC is excellent shot, that's almost everything I like abut him .
All in all ,I'm fairly neutral to him.
 

wangs78

Legend
He's hungry and wants to get to the top, which I respect. Too many of the young guys are meek and deferential to the Big 4 which I find unnecessary. Thiem, for instance, with his polite "oh we are a still a long way from the Big 4" just makes me groan with dread. At the end of the day it's what you do on court that matters and who knows Thiem could break through first. But I like to see a bit more outward ambition, not disrespect, but just more fire and desire, which we do see in Zverev.
 

TheOneHander

Professional
Fan is a bit extreme, but I like him bc he actually cares.

This. He's putting up some good results, with a Masters this year to back it up, and is making steady progress.

At this moment in time, he's more than just a flash in the pan. Who knows if that'll hold true in a few years, but as of now he's the most notable young player (if you're not counting Thiem) who's shown the most potential.

I agree that his game and his personality aren't flashy, but he's not dead on court and has a drive to win.

Not to mention people like an ascension story too. ;)
 
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Deleted member 23235

Guest
first saw him playing usopen quallies before he was winning anything.

at first i thought "another boring isner type"... but he moved really well for a big guy... played defense, tried to fight for points even if it lasted long (also why i liked boric when i saw him in the same quallies)

on the flip side you had a guy kirk kyrgios who i like, who has stated that he gets bored if the rally goes too long...
 

duaneeo

Legend
It's not like there's a list of 20 year olds who are capable of winning big tournaments right now. There's only one player that fits that description and it's zverev.

I like him because he's probably the first person his age since Del Potro to actually appear to have a set of testicles.

He's hungry and wants to get to the top, which I respect.

Fan is a bit extreme, but I like him bc he actually cares.

This, this, this, and this.
 

Notirouswithag

Professional
His game may not lack any wow factor but he's consistent and already has proven alot more of his worth than what the next gen guys are doing. Only other one I see worth watching is Thiem behind Z, but I still give Z the advantage. He has shown alot of improvement and maturity over the last year and already has a few titles under his belt compared to the others of his age group.

He may be cocky and arrogant at times, compared to what he was I would say he's improving in that department too. No one is perfect but he has matured quite a bit and I hop he continues to do so and be a contender in alot of events
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest

Nah, I couldn't care less about how he looks. I thought his game looked quite electrifying in Washington. It was easy on the eye. Just have to see more of that and hope for the best for the rest of the year. A good run at the US Open.

Like for the song. :)
 

darrinbaker00

Professional
Are you a fan because of his game or his personality/looks? I don't get why everyone is going nuts for him. He seems boring. Nadal and Fed at his age had something about them that was exciting. So, if you are his fan I'd like to hear from you. Thanks. He has a great game but even if he wins multiple slams I don't see myself warming up to him.
The primary reason why I like Zverev because he's the anti-Kyrgios, but now I have another reason: because you don't.
 

NothingButNet

Semi-Pro
He backs up a powerful, assertive game with body language and a look in his eye that makes me feel he was born for it.

It's an X factor.

A bit like Fred, no amount of future stardom will be too much for the junior Zverev to bear, he'll embrace it all.
 

kajzersose

New User
He still needs to wait about 4-5 years for big shots to retire after that its all his. Nick will probably battle all kind of injuries, Thiem might be another Murray playing cold and hot, so Zvererev most likely will be alone and collect a few GS due lack of competition. Untill then he will just chew the bones and leftovers. To me honestly nothing to wow about it, he is just a young version of Raonic. I got absolutely no problem betting against him anytime vs Federer,Nadal,Nick or Andy.
 

Goosehead

Legend
because he is so amazing and will only improve :) and then he will alter the oblong of the spherical.

his backhand is like a friendly thermonuclear airburst without the bad bits..i could go on but I can't be arsed.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Pros: Solid game, no nonsense attitude (no bs Krygios crap), doesn't cave in and choke against big 4 like most players

Cons: Seems cocky/arrogant, a little bland/not much personality, cant volley for sh*t

Conclusion…not sure what I think of him. I do like that he's there to compete, doesn't tank and takes it to the big players.

But I also like seeing him lose to lower ranked guys since he's cocky.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Zverev's cons are pretty big versus Federer:
1. Minimal attacking game and you just cringe when he's drawn into the net; it's that bad
2. Perpetual sour look on his face much of the time (which has little to do with his personality)

Pros:
1. Zverev is no Borg, but he's very well spoken and has an X factor that was filling the stands at the Citi Open better than any other player despite a game that makes Djokovic's look quite varied.:confused:
2. His first return game with its reach makes him hell on wheels for the dreaded and even more boring servebots. Zed is a one man wrecking crew for servebots in the draw. They want to go fairly big on 2nd serve well it works for that too.;) For that alone he gets 10 stars.:p
3. The first serve is slowly getting better, so right now it is the combination of percentage and power. For the first time against Anderson he seemed to hit another gear on serve and it is frightening how good he'll be in another year.
4. The 2nd serve game is off the charts. Often will serve over 125 mph on a 2nd serve.:eek: Probably will be setting records for points won on 2nd serves because of this and his first strike from both sides.
5. Simply the best backhand in the game when you consider the shots he can hit at full stretch and boy does the Zed stretch on the backhand
6. Great on all surfaces
7. The "weakness", the forehand, is turning into a strength. Definitely can run and gun with the shot and has become an excellent compliment to the mighty backhand leaving no escape for opponents.
8. The overall package worked on by Zed and his team is daunting. So much depth and power on all shots. The best baseline dominator leaving those who try to match him a wreck (Djokovic and Nishikori). An almost invulnerable player if he's on his game as even Federer won't be able to expose the Zverev forecourt game easily under such a barrage.

Zverev is vulnerable to speedy players who can expose his movement with a lot of game (Nishikori speedy, but little variation to expose Zed's movement.) Smaller players, younger players have the best shot outside of the elite. Hoping to see him hit Kyrgios who has come alive a bit at Rogers Cup and of course Fedal. The tables may be turned this time by the overwhelming power and depth of Zverev.

Zverev is simply a new breed of player and that alone makes him special accross the board. The stats he is amassing and the way his game is doing it are unprecedented. I like watching Thiem's individual shots and herculean efforts, but the whole Zverev package with all its subtleties leaves one in awe.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
He still needs to wait about 4-5 years for big shots to retire after that its all his. Nick will probably battle all kind of injuries, Thiem might be another Murray playing cold and hot, so Zvererev most likely will be alone and collect a few GS due lack of competition. Untill then he will just chew the bones and leftovers. To me honestly nothing to wow about it, he is just a young version of Raonic. I got absolutely no problem betting against him anytime vs Federer,Nadal,Nick or Andy.
You've nailed the players to which Zed is vulnerable. Kyrgios will have to find another gear if he wants to keep up with Zverev (he's been left in the dust since Miami). Zverev mentally at the later stages of events has become like ice.

Zverev isn't waiting 4 or 5 years. It's going to be more like months or even weeks. Nadal may still be safe on clay, but really only Murray in my mind can consistently stop Zverev (much like Kyrgios). Murray of 2017 is not up to the task, but in near peak form he'll be trouble for sure.:eek:
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
He does have an air of arrogance about him, that all greats have really, which makes me more excited about him. The results are coming in fast. 4th title this year. I enjoy his game as well. I largely agree with what Meles posted too...
Rogers Cup will be electric if we end up with Zed v Kyrgios, Zed v Nadal, and Zed v Fed.:p Zverev is going to have to maul his opponents to have the legs for the final. Historic matches if they go down.:D
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Zverev needs to cut his hair. At this stage in this career, he's like Fed was early on when he was sporting this 'do:
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If Zverev cuts his hair and loses the Robert Plant 1972 hairdo, he'll instantly go from "meh" to reasonably OK. That translates into 10 million dollars more into his back account in about 2 weeks.

He needs handlers for his looks. Rock the clothes and cut the freakin' hair ASAP.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
I like the fact he's a young player who has the right attitude and is having success.

Not really a fan of his style of play. Boring ball basher with no net game.
 

Alba Barragan

Professional
What I love the most about Zverev is the fact he's a complete product of and for tennis. His parents were tennis players, his brother is one, he grew up playing tennis (he says there are pics of him aged 1 already holding racquets) and a considerable part of his youth was spent on tour with his brother. One would think he may have gotten tired of the sport at this point but he didn't. He has said he never doubted he wanted to be a tennis player, he never even considered other options and that shows a real passion and love for this sport, especially considering he saw in first hand how tough and painful it can be with all the struggles his brother went through.

Is he cocky? Yes. Is he arrogant? Probably. But he is so in an un-annoying way. It's the kind of cockiness that comes when you know you've done your homework and finally get good grades, and it's exciting to watch him behave with such confidence and tenacity on the court. He's ambitious and has the balls to try to change the status quo but, unlike some players out there, he's respectful while doing so and is putting the work to achieve it.

I frankly don't give a damn if his game isn't the coolest, flashiest and more entertaining out there. It's what's in his mind: the ambition, passion, respect, and compromise for the sport, what I like about him. Plus he's the closest thing we have to the full package: he has an effective game, great potential, the fire and resolution in his eyes when he plays, a decent personality off the court (his Cinci speech was great), and good looks ;)
 

Alba Barragan

Professional
If Zverev cuts his hair and loses the Robert Plant 1972 hairdo, he'll instantly go from "meh" to reasonably OK. That translates into 10 million dollars more into his back account in about 2 weeks.

He needs handlers for his looks. Rock the clothes and cut the freakin' hair ASAP.

You've got to be kidding me! That hair is one of the best things he has, it's an integral part of who he is and what will push him to international stardom. I'm secretly praying for him to leave the early Bjorn Borg hairstyle and fully embrace the Iconic Borg Look ®

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BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
You've got to be kidding me! That hair is one of the best things he has, it's an integral part of who he is and what will push him to international stardom.

I'm not kidding and I guarantee you he'll have his hair cut by the end of the year if he keeps having results. And to compare this guy to Borg is just plain sacrilegious. Zverev would never look this good in 400 million years (note Borg's short hair):
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Alba Barragan

Professional
I'm not kidding and I guarantee you he'll have his hair cut by the end of the year if he keeps having results. And to compare this guy to Borg is just plain sacrilegious. Zverev would never look this good in 400 million years (note Borg's short hair):
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Zverev is never going to look like this, play like this or ever be mentioned in the same sentence as this man.
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Well, Zverev seems very fond of his hair as well, he dismissed a reporter's suggestion of having a haircut by telling him to have one as well :D so I don't see him cutting it for now.

And I was just talking about the hair length and only that, I'll never compare Zverev to Borg regarding looks... damn, I'll never compare anyone to Borg, he was in a league of his own. That hair:
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Those eyes:
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Those muscles:
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That posture:
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Meles

Bionic Poster
Zverev needs to cut his hair. At this stage in this career, he's like Fed was early on when he was sporting this 'do:
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If Zverev cuts his hair and loses the Robert Plant 1972 hairdo, he'll instantly go from "meh" to reasonably OK. That translates into 10 million dollars more into his back account in about 2 weeks.

He needs handlers for his looks. Rock the clothes and cut the freakin' hair ASAP.
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Meles

Bionic Poster
Zverev is never going to look like this, play like this or ever be mentioned in the same sentence as this man.
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LOL. Good chance Zverev will exceed the Borg slam count as he's a better hard court player.

Isn't the rock star like Borg, but he's got the same ice in his veins. The Ice King Zvero is rapidly gaining momentum with a surging serve game the likes of which has never seen before.o_O That serve game is going to be a leap forward in slam stamina that will take prince all the way to the throne within the year. The cavalry charge is heading for ********* and the other greats and you guys don't even see it.
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TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
You've got to be kidding me! That hair is one of the best things he has, it's an integral part of who he is and what will push him to international stardom. I'm secretly praying for him to leave the early Bjorn Borg hairstyle and fully embrace the Iconic Borg Look ®

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Agree.
Sashas hair is going to be epic. Hope he grows it more. Federers hair when he was young was so bad. Sasha is looking great. Really classy looks. Better than the big 4, thats for sure.
Hope he wins slams. He could be what tennis needs for it to grow again.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
LOL. Good chance Zverev will exceed the Borg slam count as he's a better hard court player.

Isn't the rock star like Borg, but he's got the same ice in his veins. The Ice King Zvero is rapidly gaining momentum with a surging serve game the likes of which has never seen before.o_O That serve game is going to be a leap forward in slam stamina that will take prince all the way to the throne within the year. The cavalry charge is heading for ********* and the other greats and you guys don't even see it.
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Is this Spartacus? Too quick for me to tell.....
 

vanioMan

Legend
He's got balls and attitude. And the game to back it up.

It's a bit like watching the young Steve Austin power his way through the top of the WWF world. Let's hope Sascha reaches it just like Stone Cold did ;)
 

Colin

Professional
Boring personality, arrogant at times and solid game but nothing special which doesn't excite me. Not a fan
I agree with this — solid and nothing special are the right descriptions for his game. Solid, yet boring, a tennis robot (a servebot with better groundstrokes and return). Maybe he could be like the next Djokovic with few weaknesses once he hones his mental game. But there's no flair, no excitement. Say what you will about Djokovic's cheesy personality and metaphorical heart exercises, but at least it's something.

Fed has his artistic style and creative genius, Nadal has his passion and sometimes-amusing underwear-adjusting tics, Murray has crafty play and bizarre diatribes in which he scowls at his friends, family and team like a cornered rabid marsupial. These No. 1 players can keep it interesting in some way. But what does Zverev have besides a slight sense of entitlement (as if he's been reading the hype on these boards) and that ungainly mop on his head? Perhaps it's the latter that's most distracting to me, an aesthetic hindrance or just superficiality on my part. But every time I see him play, I imagine sneaking into the men's locker room (well, I was already kind of imagining doing that anyway, I guess) and lying in wait with a pair of oversize garden shears to give him an extreme makeover.

When people talk about Zverev as the next generation's top prospect, it makes me recoil a bit. I guess he's better than Raonic at least? I'd much rather watch someone less consistent but more interesting — Thiem, Dimitrov, even Kyrgios and Bernie the Tank Engine. At least they keep me invested wondering when they might come to words with an on-court official, disparage an opponent or maybe just retire out of nowhere.
 

reaper

Legend
LOL. Good chance Zverev will exceed the Borg slam count as he's a better hard court player.

Isn't the rock star like Borg, but he's got the same ice in his veins. The Ice King Zvero is rapidly gaining momentum with a surging serve game the likes of which has never seen before.o_O That serve game is going to be a leap forward in slam stamina that will take prince all the way to the throne within the year. The cavalry charge is heading for ********* and the other greats and you guys don't even see it.
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I'm not so sure about the ice in his veins. He barely won a point after holding match point and losing it against Nadal early last year..perhaps at Indian Wells. No one doubts he can play, but the two big queries are stamina in long matches and temperament when it's tight.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
I'm not so sure about the ice in his veins. He barely won a point after holding match point and losing it against Nadal early last year..perhaps at Indian Wells. No one doubts he can play, but the two big queries are stamina in long matches and temperament when it's tight.
Long time ago IW with Nadal. His finals this year have been dominations save Halle where he'd had some rough matches coming into the final.

Zverev's physical stamina is slowly improving, but that's not the same as slam stamina. Let's compare him to Roddick:
1. Zverev at Washington 2017 put up 75.5% serve points won and 37.9% on return points for 55.5% points won. 6.5 hours on court
-- Roddick at Washington 2005 put up 79.0% serve points won and 33.4% on return points for 54.5% points won. 8 hours on court
-- Roddick at Indy 2003 is better with 76.3% serve points won and 39.6% on return points for 57.0% points won. 5.5 hours on court

The whole run of hard court events for Roddick through the 2003 US Open is very much the model for Zverev with very efficient match times for Roddick all the way. Zverev is off to an excellent start and he should have the stamina as long as his serve game gives him quick match times. Zverev has the added advantage of byes at Rogers and Cincy.:p
 

Roddick85

Hall of Fame
I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Zverev, but I do see a lot of potential in him and he's earned a bit of my respect this year, which is quite impressive because it's tough to earn that from me. It's not so much that I find his style of play particularly exciting, but for his age, winning a MS-1000 title is impressive. Especially when you consider the extreme dominance of the top 4 at that level over the last decade, it's impressive. When you look at Zverev from a year ago or even from 6 months ago, you can see he's progressing, improving his game and fitness. He's made more progress in the last 6 months than the "Aussie bad boys" have cumulated together over the last 3 years. I think he carries himself well off the court, seems like he's got a decent head and genuine love for the game, so for all those reasons, he's got my respect. Will I ever be a fan of Zverev? Probably not, unless his game evolves and he's able to distance himself from the generic "power baseliner" play style that's so common on the tour. If he wants to make me a fan, he needs to incorporate more net game and develops his own identity to make his game unique and perhaps a bit flashier?
 
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