Why aren't you using Volkl?

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
I’m starting to like Volkl. I like the grip.
But damn it I wish they would use a t Ap door burr cap. Much easier to add lead. Come on now
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
I used Volkl for 15 years.

I left because they only have 1 good racquet, the c10 pro. While this is a great stick there is a problem with the bumper guard that they will not address. It doesn't come down far enough to actually protect the frame. Its basically useless. I hate replacing bumper guards and refuse to buy them all the time, rewarding volkl with my money because of their poor design.

I've been playing over 25 years and the c10 is the only racquet I've encountered with this problem.

As for grip shape I like it and the graphics are ok, although the black/yellow is pretty boring at this point.
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
I used Volkl for 15 years.

I left because they only have 1 good racquet, the c10 pro. While this is a great stick there is a problem with the bumper guard that they will not address. It doesn't come down far enough to actually protect the frame. Its basically useless. I hate replacing bumper guards and refuse to buy them all the time, rewarding volkl with my money because of their poor design.

I've been playing over 25 years and the c10 is the only racquet I've encountered with this problem.

As for grip shape I like it and the graphics are ok, although the black/yellow is pretty boring at this point.
Recall the Volkl Catapult 10 nearly had a CAP grommet strip, go figure
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
Don’t get me wrong I love Volk ..
Especially old Volk ..
I don’t know about you .
But I HATE the new Völkl emblem .
The old one looks way more modern and euro space cool .. the new one looks like they went backwards in time . It’s ugly and looks more like a road sign than a cool euro sports equipment emblem ...
But back to the frames ..
Völkl could right back in the game if they would be the only manufacturer to make a line of softer Frame offerings ..
Besides the clash there aren’t really any that come to mind ..
I think they should bring back the pb mid 10. But make it a v throat .. paint it candy apple red with some cool silver graphics ..
I would love it if they brought out a V 1 with a low low flex coupled with its already soft handle system and those fantastic grommets.’
It would be the most comfortable frame ever made..
I tell ya man the Völkl Dnx 8 frame was a complete sleeper stick . Man .. that frame did everything . Everything. Spin was amazing and it was the most comfy / yet stiff as hell stick I’ve ever used.
Some say it was too light .
But not me . A leather grip and a tad of lead up top .. took care of that ..
I wasn’t too crazy about the shape of the frame ‘ but the color way was right as rain !
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
I used Volkl for 15 years.

I left because they only have 1 good racquet, the c10 pro. While this is a great stick there is a problem with the bumper guard that they will not address. It doesn't come down far enough to actually protect the frame. Its basically useless. I hate replacing bumper guards and refuse to buy them all the time, rewarding volkl with my money because of their poor design.

I've been playing over 25 years and the c10 is the only racquet I've encountered with this problem.

As for grip shape I like it and the graphics are ok, although the black/yellow is pretty boring at this point.
I have been using the C10 Pro for more than two years now and I've never noticed any issue with the bumper guard. What do you mean by it not coming "down far enough"?
 

basil J

Hall of Fame
New Volkls are stiff and feel like cheap plastic compared to the models that were in circulation around 2010. I have been using the BB Melbourne since 2012 and have recently demoed some volkls hoping to upgrade and was very disappointed with the few frames I demoed. Melbourne is thin beamed, flexy with a great 18 x 20 string bed that offers excellent feel, power and control. They should just re-release this frame with a volkl paint job and it would be a big hit. Everyone who has ever tried my racquet, liked it. I feel like their current players frames are too stiff and the control is not very good on the 16 x 19 string beds. The mid with the 16 x 18 string bed was actually pretty nice, but I'll pass on volkl till they get back to making players frames.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
New Volkls are stiff and feel like cheap plastic compared to the models that were in circulation around 2010. I have been using the BB Melbourne since 2012 and have recently demoed some volkls hoping to upgrade and was very disappointed with the few frames I demoed. Melbourne is thin beamed, flexy with a great 18 x 20 string bed that offers excellent feel, power and control. They should just re-release this frame with a volkl paint job and it would be a big hit. Everyone who has ever tried my racquet, liked it. I feel like their current players frames are too stiff and the control is not very good on the 16 x 19 string beds. The mid with the 16 x 18 string bed was actually pretty nice, but I'll pass on volkl till they get back to making players frames.
I agree with everything you wrote. The simple solution is to stock up on the old player style Völkls and play on. You never know... they may just re-release some of the excellent oldies. TW already has the PB 10 Mid and the C10 Pro, and when Völkl realizes that the lower RA trend is truly back in... they may release lots of the oldies in a new paint job.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I left because they only have 1 good racquet, the c10 pro.
Personally, I found quite a few of their older models to be very good.

I remember purchasing the LM Radical MP years ago, a racquet I liked then and still do, and then having the chance to test the Völkl Catapult 10 and the Catapult V1 and thinking to myself... these are even better. At that time I had a very tight budget and had I tried the Völkls first, I probably would have bought one of them instead.

I also liked the C10 Pro (and still have several), the Tour 10 Gen 1 and Gen 2, the BB Melbourne (as mentioned before - and essentially a Völkl), the BB 11 Heavy version and the Special Edition. I even liked the V-engine Tour 10 MP.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Personally, I found quite a few of their older models to be very good.

I remember purchasing the LM Radical MP years ago, a racquet I liked then and still do, and then having the chance to test the Völkl Catapult 10 and the Catapult V1 and thinking to myself... these are even better. At that time I had a very tight budget and had I tried the Völkls first, I probably would have bought one of them instead.

I also liked the C10 Pro (and still have several), the Tour 10 Gen 1 and Gen 2, the BB Melbourne (as mentioned before - and essentially a Völkl), the BB 11 Heavy version and the Special Edition. I even liked the V-engine Tour 10 MP.
Yeah some of the older models are great. Current models are all too stiff though.

I have been using the C10 Pro for more than two years now and I've never noticed any issue with the bumper guard. What do you mean by it not coming "down far enough"?
The bumper guard doesn't extend to the edge of the frame enough so barely protects it. I have several c10s worn down to the graphite and past that because of this issue. If you haven't noticed any wear my guess it that you don't go to the net much or maybe all of your approach shots are winners and you never have to hit a low volley.
 
that 100% looks like they are taking a swing at the Prince Tour 100P. Not a bad spec to try and get into. MORE 100 INCH 18x20s!!!!




Found some pics on foro del tenis, this is one sexy looking paintjob. Release is supposedly scheduled for November.
I just bought 2 new Tour 100Ps and it's absolutely great but I might give that one a try for old times sake.
I used to play with the Quantum 10 Tour Gen. II (predecessor of the BB Legend) hence my nostalgic feelings towards Völkl.
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
The bumper guard doesn't extend to the edge of the frame enough so barely protects it. I have several c10s worn down to the graphite and past that because of this issue. If you haven't noticed any wear my guess it that you don't go to the net much or maybe all of your approach shots are winners and you never have to hit a low volley.
I practically live at the net :) Only time I would stay longer at the baseline is when I'm just hitting. But on dubs I hardly stay at the baseline. And I don't rush to the net. I come in slow and easy just a couple of steps at a time. So I'm always prepared and used to hitting from just past the baseline, no-man's land, service line whether pick ups or low volleys. Yes I do hit my racquet but very very few in between. I think I'm just careful and aware at my racquet position at all times. But yeah I understand what you're saying. My hitting partner's much newer Babolat Pure Drives (1 year old) head guards are all bashed up and she hits mostly from the baseline. I also have another friend who I string for. He always has the latest Head Speeds and that's because he gashes the bumper down to the frame all the time.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame




Found some pics on foro del tenis, this is one sexy looking paintjob. Release is supposedly scheduled for November.
I just bought 2 new Tour 100Ps and it's absolutely great but I might give that one a try for old times sake.
I used to play with the Quantum 10 Tour Gen. II (predecessor of the BB Legend) hence my nostalgic feelings towards Völkl.
Do we know the RA of this eye candy?
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame




Found some pics on foro del tenis, this is one sexy looking paintjob. Release is supposedly scheduled for November.
I just bought 2 new Tour 100Ps and it's absolutely great but I might give that one a try for old times sake.
I used to play with the Quantum 10 Tour Gen. II (predecessor of the BB Legend) hence my nostalgic feelings towards Völkl.

That red new Völkl looks great , but I still prefer this red Völkl / IMHO the old red tr ‘s and t 9’s are the best red pant on any racquet EVER .
 

sargeinaz

Hall of Fame
Volkl is my favorite racket company. Love the C10 and Tour 10 Gen 1 MP and the V Engine 10 MP. Echoing what many others have said, I feel they’ve moved in the wrong direction. They need to make a racket similar to or rerelease under a new paint job and sell as a “new model” the Tour 10 Gen 1 MP. It has specs that fall in line with where most sticks are at now. Mid 320s swing weight. About 5 points headlight and weighs about 11.8oz strung. Plus it has full RAP grommets.

Or bring back the V engine 10 MP which had more pop than a traditional players frame. Love the V shaped throat on Volkls.
This was when volkl was at their best....ESPECIALLY the tour 10 Gen 1 MP.

I haven’t hit theV Sense 10 Tour. It looks close enough to the Tour10 Mp spec wise and has a similar beam shape/width. Might be a sleeper.

I used to recommend Volkl to everyone, lately they haven’t given me a reason to which is sad. I hope they turn it around.

With that being said that New V8 Pro has a beautiful, clean understated paint job. Hopefully that’s a sign of things to come at least paint job wise.

maybe release the T10 Gen 1 MP as a V10 Pro and make it all black with yellow inside the hoop?
 
I have been playing with Volkl for 20 years. Used to play with the V1 OS - in my opinion the best oversized on the market as it plays like a mid and is headlight. Now playing with the VSense V1MP and love them (2 matched racquets). I like the Volkl grips - can’t play with round grips. I agree that would be best if they could reverse somewhat thei march toward increased stiffness. Nevertheless the racquets are very arm friendly. One point of information - TW performed a playtest review of the new VFeel V1MP and the feedback I read on the message board from reviewers were very positive however TW never published the review. Do t understand it.
 

tennis347

Semi-Pro
Volkl has went away from making flexible frames which is the main reason I would not play with one. I did play with the C10 Pro for many years but it’s now too heavy for my shoulder. Wilson, Prince and I guess Techifibre are making flexible racquets these days. If only Volkl would go back to what they’re are known for which is flexible buttery frames. The BB Delta Core London definitely was one of those classic frames I used but now outdated and low powered.
 
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max

Legend
I used the C-9 for almost 20 years. Very useful frame, when adjusted to your specs. The C-10 is a true classic: would be nice to find the same frame in a lighter package. Or perhaps 95 sqinch headsize.
 

sargeinaz

Hall of Fame
I used the C-9 for almost 20 years. Very useful frame, when adjusted to your specs. The C-10 is a true classic: would be nice to find the same frame in a lighter package. Or perhaps 95 sqinch headsize.
I’ve read that the V Sense 10 Tour is basically close to a lighter c10. Maybe Rabbit can chime in, I believe he used it briefly?
 

Crocodile

Hall of Fame
Interested to see what Volkl have done with the new V8 Pro frame. Does anyone have any details of the frame.
I do like the more traditional feeling Volkl's to what they have done with the V Feel range, so hope to see a resurgence in their product moving on.
 

aussie

Professional
Number 1 reason I can't gel with Volkl is the grip shape. Doesn't matter if everything else about a racquet is superb, if the grip is not comfortable there is no connect with the racquet.

I've used many different brands over the years and I've never had any problems with Prince grips. Squarish with well defined butt flare fits perfectly in my hand, my little finger resting comfortably on the start of the flare.

The dampening technologies in the various Volkl handle systems which are effective at reducing vibration and shock, unfortunately for me, also result in a disconnect for feeling the ball impact. I've found that Volkl frames are great for TE/GE sufferers but there is no feeling for the ball from the stringbed. I have very little sense of where the ball is going after the ball leaves the strings.

Other dislikes of Volkl are minor and have been mentioned - colorways are mostly ordinary at best and the new logo is grating.

I concede however that we're all different and what doesn't work for one user is a perfect fit for another.
 

tom4ny

Professional
I am still using my Super G Mid 320's and have no interest the F-feel line. I thought that the V-Sense line didn't perform as well as the SG line but was Volkl's attempt to bring more "feel" and "feedback" into their line as the SG line was very dampened and muted. The SG line though (at least as far as the 10's and V-1 Pro that I have had a great balance of power and control with the shock protection from the handle system.

fwiw: I still have a few Tour 10 V-Engine MP's that I still enjoy hitting with along with a Volkl Tour 10 Gen II and old c10 and c9 pro's. They are still fun to hit with after all of these years.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Just got a C10 Pro Xtended... hopefully, it will be on its way to me shortly... can't wait... a lower weight, lower SW, lower RA C10 Pro that I can modify. It is also Extended, as the name suggests, so I get to try that too.

It's 34g lighter unstrung (11 oz. instead of 12.3 oz.)... I will probably add 2-3g at 3,9, and 12 o'clock (which adds 6-9g), add a leather grip, maybe 6g at 7" above butt cap, and an Overgrip. This should still be lower than the static weight of the standard version.
 
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NLBwell

Legend
I've tested various Volkl rackets many times over the past 20 years and never liked any of them.
Not saying anything negative about them, just not a fit for me.
 

Bhagi Katbamna

Hall of Fame
1) Rest of the world has caught up. No more comfortable than some models from the other makers and their racquets keep getting stiffer and more jarring.
2) Quality control has gone to hell. Have had some that were way off spec and numerous posts on this site about poor spec adherence.
3) Stubbornly continue to use a grip shape almost nobody, self included, seems to favor.
4) Engineering reputation is a joke. Optispot? Really?? Celullose in a frame so it's organic? Do tell. They're so idea-challenged that the cellulose is being brought back from the Organix line into the new Feel line, same garbage recycled.
5) Graphics look like they were created by a 7 year old with a (large) collection of crayons.
6) Engineered by a country that's 0-2 in World Wars.
7) Logo just went from bad to worse.
8) Ever use their leather grips? Wear a glove so your hand doesn't become the same color.
9) Can no longer say "hey, Martin Damm plays with one!"
10) "can't wait to see if the new C10 paint is yellow with black or black with yellow"

and these are only the Top Ten reasons
My number one reason for choosing rackets. lol
 

JustTennis76

Professional
I have tried a couple of Volkl frames before but never got to like them because they feel too brassy hitting outside the sweetspot and felt too unpredictable response. Besides that, the #1 reason I don’t like is their grip shape. Maybe this contributes to the other factors I mentioned.
 
I love the Volkl grip. May be partially due to fact that gravitate between a continental and an eastern. Nevertheless, I occasionally use a semi-western. I don’t understand some of the negative comments that have appeared in this chain. What I have found is that the racquets are extremely string sensitive and play much better at the lower end of the range. As far as quality control, when I bought my two VSense V1 MP’s, I weighed and checked the balance of five racquets. Four of the five were IDENTICAL, the fifth was a few grams heavier. All I know is that my arm is healthy and every time that I hit with another brand I can’t wait to return to my Volkl.
 

sargeinaz

Hall of Fame
I never had QC issues with my Volkls personally, but that doesn’t mean other people haven’t. And it’s my preferred grip shape, but I use an eastern forehand grip.
 

Bhagi Katbamna

Hall of Fame
Oh, you mean the country that engineers BMW, Mercedes, Porsche and Audi?
I unfortunately bought a Mercedes at my kids' insistence and even the simplest repair and part becomes an adventure that has no upper limit on the cost.
What I was laughing about was how that particular poster had snuck in that line about 2 world wars in the middle of the reason why he won't use Volkl. I thought it was a funny joke.
 
I bought volkl v-sense 325 gram. I read all the rave 'bout Volkl been so Arm-Friendly but it gave me instance Tennis Elbow.... It was about a year ago... Since then, played with multiflament at lower tension (52/50) adde lead at 3,9,10,2,12, and learned how to almost love it.... Yesterday, I whipped it (in the living room!) along Prince O3 MP, Head PT660, KBlade tour 93 and..... They all feel different, and Volkl felt like less smooth than HEAD PT660 and PRINCE 03 (TOO SMOOTH), but more than KBlade tour 93... I like to play with this raquet because it seems stable and good at net, and even able to create nice spin.... BUT: Serves are not so powerful, and groundstrokes are not lethal, no matter how much you try.....
Conclusions:

1. IT IS STRING / TENSION SENSATIVE.
2. MUST ADD LEAD, TO MAKE IT STABLE AND ADD SOME POWER.
3. IT CAN BE FUN TO PLAY WITH - NICE ANGLES.
4. YOU REALLY NEED TO WORK HARD.
 

t_pac

Rookie
I would love to try some of their frames but none of them come particularly close to my preferred specs - not least no 18x20 patterns.
 

Antónis

Semi-Pro
20140725_200322_zps2f0c3d68 by António Duarte, no Flickr

This is the only Volkl I ever had, Tour 10 V Engine mid, very control oriented 18x20 93 sq.i. racket, I bought it because the price was very low, and I never had the chance to hit with a 10 series Volkl before.
It was a fun hit, very nice flex feeling, and a volley machine, but the grip shape is a big issue for me, and to make things worse, it was 4 1/2, and I'm a 1/4 or 3/8 round shaped handle user. I know I could change pallets, but I preferred to sell it since I already have some small headed tight string pattern rackets, and at this size, I rather go with 16x18 or 19
 
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20140725_200322_zps2f0c3d68 by António Duarte, no Flickr

This is the only Volkl I ever had, Tour 10 V Engine mid, very control oriented 18x20 93 sq.i. racket, I bought it because the price was very low, and I never had the chance to hit with a 10 series Volkl before.
It was a fun hit, very nice flex feeling, and a volley machine, but the grip shape is a big issue for me, and to make things worse, it was 4 1/2, and I'm a 1/4 or 3/8 round shaped handle user. I know I could change pallets, but I preferred to sell it since I already have some small headed tight string pattern rackets, and at this size, I rather go with 16x18 or 19
It seems.... Broken? Or am I delusioning
 

Antónis

Semi-Pro
It seems.... Broken? Or am I delusioning
You mean the throat looks like it's broken? that's the "V" thing from Volkl, they have a bunch of rackets with a "V" shaped throat, I believe it's supposed to make the two central main strings a bit longer, compared to a convencional shaped throat, adding a bit more power. Every brand has his bull**** to make us spend money on them, I guess...
 

basil J

Hall of Fame
Just picked up the PB 10 mid and am quite impressed with the quality and feel. Hit for 90 minutes yesterday and absolutely loved the feel and accuracy. Played with a guy that was using a Warwinka Yonex 330 and he thought I was really wailing my ground strokes. I didn't even take out My Melbourne at all because I was enjoying the feel and pop I was getting with this frame. Plays like a 95" sized head. You can play real loose with this frame and get all the power and spin you need. Volkl should go back to these kind of frames, not so much mids, but flex and weight. really fun hitting session. Will play real points later this week to see how I fare with it in real points.
 
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