why did the titanium racquets die out?

anirut

Legend
I think it's the "material fad" syndrome. In those days anything Ti could bring oohs and ahs to consumers. Today it's the nano.

In the past days of wood, when fiberglass lamination came out it caused the same effect as the Ti. Then came full fiberglass, fiberglass with Al laminate, full Al, boron, graphite, etc ... each caused oohs and ahs in their days

Hey, its all marketing trick.
 

vkartikv

Hall of Fame
They haven't died out. The rdx 500 has ti, the rds series is all about elastic ti. Prince still uses it in its triple threat or braid or whatever they call it. Wilson still uses it in its tweener and beginner frames. I really don't know which metal composes the liquidmetal.

To be honest, I didn't like ti. Just compare the PR 660 and the PR Ti. There's your answer.
 

jck01

Semi-Pro
anirut said:
I think it's the "material fad" syndrome. In those days anything Ti could bring oohs and ahs to consumers. Today it's the nano.

In the past days of wood, when fiberglass lamination came out it caused the same effect as the Ti. Then came full fiberglass, fiberglass with Al laminate, full Al, boron, graphite, etc ... each caused oohs and ahs in their days

Hey, its all marketing trick.
I agree.
 

Alafter

Hall of Fame
Well there's like a gazillion titanium sticks in store, all at uber cheap prices. Maybe they are good pick ups then?
 
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snoflewis

Guest
wyutani said:
titanium = recreational players...
are you serious?

come on now...in your sig, it says you have the RD-Ti 80...and what do you think the Ti stands for?

Ti isnt for recreational players. yes, there are Ti walmart rackets, but at the same time, there are player's rackets that have titanium in them too. that's like saying any racket w/ graphite is for recreational players. the recreational rackets at walmart and big-5 have graphite...so all rackets composed of graphite must be for recreational players.

honstly, you should really start posting some more meaningful threads rather than 16 bad ones and 1 semi-informative one (classic case of quality vs quantity)...and i have Andres Guazzelli to back me up on this one
 
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snoflewis

Guest
Alafter said:
Well there's like a gazillion titanium sticks in store, all at uber cheap prices. Maybe they are good pick ups then?
it would depend on what you need and what you're looking for. from head, the ti. fire pro edition, ti.classic, and ti.radicals are all good pickups imo...especially if they're at low prices
 

BaseLineBash

Hall of Fame
Just so you guys know, a racquet could could contain way less than 1% of titanium and still call it a Ti racquet. Gimmicks and marketing that is all. Just like Patagonia's Capilene, it's freaking polyester but since it contains a small % of the brands super breathable fabric, it's Capilene not poly.
 

louis netman

Hall of Fame
I hope it's on its way out. Volkl experimented with it one year and the Germans were done with it. Titanium's the stuff that sends vibrations right down into your bone marrow...
 

Bottle Rocket

Hall of Fame
When he says recreational players, he is talking about the class of players that are supposed to be using Wal-Mart rackets.

Next time you're at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, or Target, take a look at the tennis rackets. They are supposedly made out of titanium, that's why they are so good... :confused:
 

armand

Banned
louis netman said:
I hope it's on its way out. Volkl experimented with it one year and the Germans were done with it. Titanium's the stuff that sends vibrations right down into your bone marrow...
LOL, good one!

Anyway, titanium is still around, it's just not advertised as much simply because it's not new. I think it's still good.
Prince, HEAD, Yonex, Volkl all use titanium in many of their racquets.

Fischer, Dunlop, PK, Tecnifibre, Wilson, Babolat seem not to use titanium at all, though Wilson uses hyper carbon or whatever and I think that feels and works worse than titanium.
 

Alafter

Hall of Fame
I am referring to the racquets that actually feels metallic and cold to touch in stores, indicating titanium.
 

framebreaker

Semi-Pro
louis netman said:
I hope it's on its way out. Volkl experimented with it one year and the Germans were done with it. Titanium's the stuff that sends vibrations right down into your bone marrow...
haha i agree
 
MTChong said:
With respect to titanium, how are they for the arm compared to full graphite frames?
In general, they're slightly lighter. When I switched from full graphite Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 Classic to my PRTi, I had some arm trouble for the first few weeks, even though it was lighter. Anyhow, time passed by, and never really had any injury to the arm unless I hit nothing but kick serves the entire match :mrgreen:
 
There's very little titanium in any tennis rackets that are claimed to be Ti something. Even the famous Ti series from Head a few years ago were no exception. I don't know exactly how much but no rackets contain more than 5 to 10% of titanium. It's alloy with mostly aluminium. Titanium is simply too expensive to be used 100% to make rackets, even if it's the ideal material.

Graphite has proved to be THE material for rackets. The majority of the rackets being sold these days are made from Graphite. If you read what the manufacturers say about hyper carbon, Ncode, DNX, etc, you'll see they are all carbon, which is what graphite is, yes, the very same chemical element as charcoal.
 

PBODY99

Legend
The use of Ti in frames takes two formulations. The Alloy frames are AL +Ti, making the Al a little stronger. This has been marketed skince the 1970's.
The Ti in a Graphite frame is a small part of the lay up that helps to reduce weight by strenghting the carbon matrix.:cool:
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
I really enjoy playing the Volkl T10MPGen1 which is a Graphite/titanium layup..not harsh at all. I think the TiRadical was one of Heads' best efforts in years. Titanium went out of vogue..doesnt mean it was evil. It certainly was a better material to be used in tennis frames than was the short lived ceramics craze (with a couple exceptions)...that stuff is nasty and best used as tiles on the space shuttle. ;O I think they found cheaper lighterweight materials to use other than titanium.
 
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