Why do carbs make me fat?

undecided

Semi-Pro
Irrelevant since the person can't micromanage all of that. There are no special snowflakes when it comes to energy turnover.

The person is either eating too many calories or their body is a self sustaining energy source. Occam's razor would point to the former.


LOL.
The human body cannot be reduced to be equivalent to a fireplace. That oversimplification just shows ignorance of the complexity involved. FUnny coincidence, I ran into this today

 

Crocodile

Hall of Fame
Then how do you explain the rise in average weight globally in the past 50 years? Is that when carbs or insulin was invented? Or both?
I do think that carbohydrates are misunderstood and demonised. The longest living people on earth eat high carbohydrate diets.
It's more to do with the type of carbohydrates and the level of processing. Whole grain bread with grains are great for you and provide sustained energy combined with fibre and you could say that about oats as well.
The thing with carbohydrates is that it's a very large area of food types including fruits, vegetables and grains. If you get stuff that is in its natural form I think you can't go too wrong.
The problem with low carb diets and hence high protein or fat diets us that they have other issues. To much animal protein may put more stress on your kidneys and uric acid levels and low fibre is not great for bowel health.
At present many advocate the Mediterranean and DASH diets as better options to follow long term.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
Carbs are fine if you are active

If you’re nit gonna be active on a day. go low on carbs (dont need to go as low as the keto craze)
I get at least 8 hours sleep each day, and I'm not even on my feet most of the day. My work is sitting at the computer as I teach piano, planning lessons, then now and then getting up to walk to the piano to demonstrate.

I'm very careful to run each night. I eat a lot of pasta, although it is Barilla with protein. According to the package every 2 ounces is 12% of what is recommended for protein, and I eat around 8 ounces a day. On that I put vegetarian sauce with crumbles (more protein), a lot of mushrooms, and lots of veggies in the sauce.

I have no weight problems. But if I start to drink juice, and kind of juice, my weight goes up. I stay away from cookies, deserts, sweets. My sugar is fine (no problems on tests.)

I think carbs are fine for most people if they are part of a balanced diet.

Keto may lose weight, but to me it sounds very dangerous.
 

OTMPut

Hall of Fame
Thought 1:
Would you say X is in excess calories state because he is “overweight” or X is overweight because he is in excess calories state?

My 2c: That’s where bro science /pseudoscience departs from science.

Thought 2:
The carb/fat/protein division of food is perhaps stretched beyond its usefulness.

My 2c: My suspicion is that the body is a lot more complicated feedback loop system and it gleefully craps on people armed with 2 variable linear models all day long and its fun to watch it.
 

Mac33

Hall of Fame
I've just thrown in the bin Frozen wholemeal Indian bread. It tastes great but I find its not good for my weight loss.

Here is my diet consisting of four main meals that I rotate daily.

Home made veg soup - spring onion,leek,onion,green beans,pumpkin,green chilli,one large silver beet leaves only,8 tomatoes diced finely and field mushrooms. Lots of spices and water. Lasts me three days eating two bowls a day.

Brown rice boiled with fried ginger,turmeric and onion - and lots of spices

Rolled Oats and unprocessed honey.

Boiled potatoes,broccoli,sprouts and carrots sometimes with beetroot.

I wake up in the morning and I eat some prunes,a passionfruit and a kiwi fruit.

Later in the day I have one organic boiled egg.

I drink 3-4 cups of organic herbal tea with honey a day.

Some other fruit like an apple or pear occasionally. Brazil and walnuts sometimes as they have the highest alkaline rating of all the nuts.

Once a week I pig out on a veggie pizza.

Rarely stray from this diet otherwise my belly protrudes.

No chocolate,bread,cakes,sweets,soft drinks alcohol etc,etc
 

GoldenMasters

New User
Going full keto as a lifestyle where you take high fat and almost 0 carbs is definitely not the healthiest option. I tried it once and yes it helps weight loss massively but there is definitely something wrong with that diet. Better to exercise and eat some carbs and of course protein.
 

RobS

Rookie
Stay away from the fad diets, anything that's extreme or anything that you can't sustain long term. For starters, you need to figure out how many calories you need on the daily to accomplish your goals, whether it's to lose, maintain or gain. Once you know your calorie target, track everything you eat or drink for a while until you have a good understanding of what and how much your putting in your body.....calories, protein, fats, carbs, etc. There are fitness/diet apps. that make it fairly easy to track and also give you a balanced breakdown targets for protein, carbs, fibre and fats and other key nutrients. If your honest with the process you'll probably find that your calories and carbs are higher than you expect and what you need and protein may be low. It's shocking what the small muffin or plain doughnut you grab at the coffee shop in the morning does to your numbers! That small glass of orange juice has twice the calories and sugar compared to eating an orange. The gatorade you drink after an hour of doubles is almost as bad for you as drinking a Coke. If you wing it and eat based on how you feel or what you perceive to be ok, you're almost always going to eat and drink too much. You have to know how much, or little, to eat so you know when to stop. If simply you eat until you feel 'full', you'll eat too much most of the time.

Get your calories from lean meat, fish, vegetables, fruits and whole grains. Carbs aren't bad but get them from fruits and whole grains and keep them low at dinner time if you're just going to be sitting on the couch for a couple hours before going to bed. Avoid or limit sugar and refined grains as your body quickly stores it in fat cells if you don't use it for energy. Stay away from snacking unless you're active enough that you need the calories and in particular, don't snack at night. Eat dinner at a reasonable time and put a lid on your eating for the night. When you avoid snacking, it allows you insulin levels to drop and if they drop low enough and long enough, you'll start burning fat for energy.

If you enjoy the finer things in life like I do......pizza, cheesesteaks and beers just plan on paying for it with your running shoes, in the gym or on the tennis court!
 

FiReFTW

Legend
If you wing it and eat based on how you feel or what you perceive to be ok, you're almost always going to eat and drink too much. You have to know how much, or little, to eat so you know when to stop. If simply you eat until you feel 'full', you'll eat too much most of the time.
Good post, but I disagree with this part.

Your not going to eat too much if you have a good understanding of food, know what kind of macro content and calorie content each food has, and have vast experience with this subject, and perhaps even tracked food in the past.

If you understand all that you know how much you need to eat, and you can easily control ur calorie intake by the type of food you eat, like eating lots of lean protein, and lots of vegetables.. basically food that has a high satiating value and not much calories.. its hard to overeat like that.

Now for someone who doesn't have a good understanding of all this, doesn't know alot about nutrition and just eats whatever, this doesn't apply and he will have an extremely hard time maintaining a decent body, might not really be very overweight, but highly unlikely he will be in very good shape.
 

ronnie

New User
I get at least 8 hours sleep each day, and I'm not even on my feet most of the day. My work is sitting at the computer as I teach piano, planning lessons, then now and then getting up to walk to the piano to demonstrate.

I'm very careful to run each night. I eat a lot of pasta, although it is Barilla with protein. According to the package every 2 ounces is 12% of what is recommended for protein, and I eat around 8 ounces a day. On that I put vegetarian sauce with crumbles (more protein), a lot of mushrooms, and lots of veggies in the sauce.

I have no weight problems. But if I start to drink juice, and kind of juice, my weight goes up. I stay away from cookies, deserts, sweets. My sugar is fine (no problems on tests.)

I think carbs are fine for most people if they are part of a balanced diet.

Keto may lose weight, but to me it sounds very dangerous.
I think you summed it up pretty well there
 

Curiosity

Professional
Then how do you explain the rise in average weight globally in the past 50 years? Is that when carbs or insulin was invented? Or both?
Over the last 50 years food became cheaper relative to incomes worldwide. Packaging and marketing, together with greatly increased fast-food locations, made "extra" eating more convenient. But wait, there's more: When I was a middle- and high-school student the government put out a Food Pyramid which advocated getting most of one's calories from carbs. In Europe it was the same. It was typical government intervention based on weak science provided by researchers and bureaucrats with an agenda or financial interest.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Over the last 50 years food became cheaper relative to incomes worldwide. Packaging and marketing, together with greatly increased fast-food locations, made "extra" eating more convenient. But wait, there's more: When I was a middle- and high-school student the government put out a Food Pyramid which advocated getting most of one's calories from carbs. In Europe it was the same. It was typical government intervention based on weak science provided by researchers and bureaucrats with an agenda or financial interest.
And you think people followed the food chart? Both the type and amount of food? And this is what made the worldwide population fatter? You really believe this?

I’d say that if people really followed those evil food charts, they’d be eating way, way, way healthier than they do. What do you think?

Can you point out specific recommendations you find objectionable (setting aside the issue of if people follow them). Not this vague “carbs are evil” argument. I want specific quotes as to what in the pyramid you find objectionable. And please, be as specific as you can.
 
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