Isn't it blindingly obvious?
Nadal and Murray are the only 2 top players to have a consistently positive H2H against Federer (currently 21-10 to Nadal and 11-9 to Murray).
What more reasons do you need?
Murray is not even in Novak's league, he is a non entity
Well Nadal I can understand for that. Murray I would think it would have to be more than that though. Murray has almost never beaten Federer in the really big matches, so he hasnt done the damage to Federer which Nadal has.
Federer fans are also scared to death Nadal will pass his slam record and surpass him as the greatest player of their era, both which are looking atleast 75% likely to happen at this point. That must make them burn with rage and hatred for Nadal, that reality.
So come to think I dont even need to ask why they hate Nadal. With Murray maybe the head to head is part of it, but he hasnt beaten Federer in enough really big matches for it to be just that. There must be something else to it too.
Defensive styles that rely on Fed's mistakes to win.
Beating their idol more times than he has been beaten is enough reason for many of them. Besides, Murray has won the last 2 'big' matches they have played ie. the Olympic final,denying Fed probably his last chance to win the much-coveted Olympic singles gold and in the AO semis denying him the opportunity to make at least one Slam final this year for the first time since 2002!
What's Novak got to do with anything? This thread is about why so many Fedfans hate Nadal and Murray! Novak evidently isn't worth hating!
But anyway, how come Novak has lost 2 of his last 3 Grand Slam finals to this 'non-entity'?![]()
Beating their idol more times than he has been beaten is enough reason for many of them. Besides, Murray has won the last 2 'big' matches they have played ie. the Olympic final,denying Fed probably his last chance to win the much-coveted Olympic singles gold and in the AO semis denying him the opportunity to make at least one Slam final this year for the first time since 2002!
Well Nadal I can understand for that. Murray I would think it would have to be more than that though. Murray has almost never beaten Federer in the really big matches, so he hasnt done the damage to Federer which Nadal has.
Federer fans are also scared to death Nadal will pass his slam record and surpass him as the greatest player of their era, both which are looking atleast 75% likely to happen at this point. That must make them burn with rage and hatred for Nadal, that reality.
So come to think I dont even need to ask why they hate Nadal. With Murray maybe the head to head is part of it, but he hasnt beaten Federer in enough really big matches for it to be just that. There must be something else to it too.
Murray is several rungs lower in accomplishment. No threat or nothing in his game that Federer would wish to have or envy. Murray is a human backboard, why should we hate him for that..
Murray is several rungs lower in accomplishment. No threat or nothing in his game that Federer would wish to have or envy. Murray is a human backboard, why should we hate him for that..
Lol...no threat in his game to Federer? So how come Fed has lost no less than 11 of his 20 matches against this guy whose game is no apparent threat to him? After all, he doesn't extend the same courtesy to the likes of poor Ferrer who he hasn't conceded a single match to in 14 meetings or barely anybody else on the tour other than Nadal.
Their H2H in big matches (which includes Slams, WTF, Masters and Olympics) is currently 9-7 in Murray's favour. IMO that's a tad on the dangerously close side for someone who you say is no threat to him!
You know very well that i meant 'no threat' , as in no threat to his records.. Fed won all the important matches that were needed. AO does not matter as Novak would have beaten Fed anyways.. Olympics is not a major and does not matter, how much ever people twist and turn.
Your opinion. Plenty of tennis players said they value Olympic singles gold as much as a major title.
Lol...no threat in his game to Federer? So how come Fed has lost no less than 11 of his 20 matches against this guy whose game is no apparent threat to him? After all, he doesn't extend the same courtesy to the likes of poor Ferrer who he hasn't conceded a single match to in 14 meetings or barely anybody else on the tour other than Nadal.
Their H2H in big matches (which includes Slams, WTF, Masters and Olympics) is currently 9-7 in Murray's favour. IMO that's a tad on the dangerously close side for someone who you say is no threat to him!
Agreed but you still have to stay Djokovic is Federer's 2nd toughest career opponent over Murray. Yes Murray has a slightly better overall head to head, but Djokovic has been a bigger threat to Federer in the slams. A way before prime Djokovic even spanked a prime Federer silly at the 2008 Australian Open (cue the Federer fan excuses, but Federer had just come off a 3 slam + WTF year so he was in his prime).
Murray I would give his 3rd toughest.
Actually it's the Nadal fans lowball Federer Olympic Gold and of course the 6 WTFs.
Federer fans doesn't lowball Nadal's achievement but you can't say the same for Nadal fans when they discredit just about every records Roger owned.
Murray has taken NOTHING from Federer.. Wins in inconsequential matches will be forgotten even before Fed hangs his boots.
Novak has several important wins over Fed, yet most Fed fans like him.
That is hysterical! Fed fans lowball Nadal achievements all the time!
Olympic Gold, a feat Nadal has and Fed doesn't! Nadal won it on indoor hardcourts to boot! Murray kept Fed from equaling Nadal in the gold medal, and on Nadals worst surface, to boot!
Because it is written in the book of Goat 17:13, "He who beat the goat, your idol, shalt be despised and hated for Goating the goat."
May the Goat bless you.
As a Federer fan, here's what I hate about Nadal and Murray:
* Obnoxious on court -- grunts, butt picking, time wasting, ...
* No personality
* 1-dimensional playing styles that exploit surface homogeneity and modern racket technology. This allows them to win Wimbledon without playing real grass court tennis. Federer has proved he has a grass game with his pure S&V against Sampras and his attacking tennis against Roddick.
* No elegance, no shotmaking ability, no reason I want to watch a highlight reel of them.
Actually it's the Nadal fans lowball Federer Olympic Gold and of course the 6 WTFs.
Federer fans doesn't lowball Nadal's achievement but you can't say the same for Nadal fans when they discredit just about every records Roger owned.
That is hysterical! Fed fans lowball Nadal achievements all the time!
We crowned Nadal as the greatest clay courter of all time, but Nadal fans doesn't accept Roger is an all time great.
That is hysterical! Fed fans lowball Nadal achievements all the time!
You know very well that i meant 'no threat' , as in no threat to his records.. Fed won all the important matches that were needed. AO does not matter as Novak would have beaten Fed anyways.. Olympics is not a major and does not matter, how much ever people twist and turn.
However much you may twist and turn, the Olympic title very much mattered and still matters to Fed. Had he won it, you would have counted it as one of his major achievements, as would Fed himself. It is only because he didn't win it and is now unlikely to ever do so that you and other Fedfans affect to dismiss it as of no importance.
Federer has a gold and a silver medals, so stop saying that he hasn't won it.
Quoted for truth...then, you have the Fed fans who try to gloss over Fed never winning Gold in singles, so they elevate his doubles medal as if it was on the same level as singles. Federer could not win Gold in singles, but the amusing part is that they now try to pump a doubles title when they had no use for doubles (of any kind) in trying (and failing) to crown Federer at any other time.
Federer fans seems to really hate Nadal and Murray.
Isn't it obvious why they hate Rafa?
The usual overgeneralization.Federer fans are also scared to death