Why do I just prefer aluminium rackets?

robbo1970

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Ok, let's go with the premise that the 'Racquets' section is for those who are very serious about their playing and perhaps play competitively to a fairly high standard.

Which makes me think that my views on rackets is probably more suited to this section. Although I do play in a competitive league and some of my opponents perhaps take it a bit too seriously, I on the other hand do not.

I love playing tennis and I have my moments when I play well and other times when I play down right awful. I have tried various rackets over the past year, but I keep returning to pretty basic aluminium rackets that I've either had for 15/20 years (Prince Titanium Integra) and a recently acquired Prince Pro 110. I even have a new cheap Prince racket that looks like its graphite but its basically a coated titanium alloy as well.

I keep reading that aluminium rackets are rubbish, are bad for your arm because of vibrations, etc, but I think theyre really nice to play with.

Maybe I am of a standard that means I do not have the ability to know the difference between good and bad or that I just have decent aluminium rackets.....I don't know.

Or maybe it stems back from being 12 years old and watching the rich people with their fancy aluminium rackets and wishing I had the same.
 
The original Prince Pro aluminium oversize was remarkable among aluminium or metal frames in that it had such a great ball feel, weight, and balance. I remember playing a few matches with that frame back in the 80's (usually as a loaner while my various racquets were being restrung), and it was surprisingly crisp and capable. Not as quick through the air as most graphite composites, due to that nylon yoke in the throat, but still a good instrument.

There were ATP professionals using that frame, too.

It seems as though Prince hit upon the right grade of tubular aluminium alloy, and the right tubular extrusion shape, to tune the frame to just the right vibration pattern and stiffness for good play. The Classic was too flexible. Only problem I noticed about the Pro was that it was often abused, and didn't deal with heavy court rash or racquet throwing well. In fact, it's now somewhat rare to encounter one that hasn't been a bit deformed in its head shape.

Right you are, Robbo - it's a good racquet. Keep on hitting with them, if it is your favourite tool - there's absolutely no disgrace in being content!:) Mind you, there are MANY aluminium or other alloy racquets made through the years that would motivate one to QUIT tennis, so unsatisfying they are for hitting tennis balls...
 
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Could it be that you prefer the specs?
Most of the metal and early graphite rackets were much closer in weight and balance to what everyone was accustomed to ... wood rackets.

See if you can weigh and get the balance points on the rackets you like, then compare the specs to various products on TW. That could be very telling.
 
Great to hear some agreeing opinions. I certainly am lucky with the Pro I have, it's nearly mint, next to no rash at all.

I like the head size and the weight, I don't seem to see many new rackets with the same weight with that head size, and I do like the feel of aluminium. The Integra is also about 12oz and has a 107 head.

The newer racket I have is also a Prince. It's just a cheap Titan Ti Control, looks like graphite but is actually titanium alloy so it has that same feel but is a bit lighter on the arm. But it's very well made.

I know it's very easy to go out and get an expensive game improving racket but I really don't need to. To me it's a state of mind and if I have fun and enjoy using my metal monsters then that's all I want.
 
I still enjoy my Red Head Pro and Yonex 8500, so not only am I using that much maligned aluminum, but an itty-bitty one/two at that! ;)

It's been a few years, but I was determined to use my YY8500 during an evening round robin. Against all but the very best players(against whom I was plenty challenged anyway), I saw many a jaw drop as I executed buggy-whip passing shots, booming serves, touch volleys and one fun slashing volley that hopped back across the net for a winner!

I was 'in the zone' and as long as the ball wasn't going TOO fast, I could hit all the shots I wanted AND enjoy the experience all the while! I was never too crazy about the oversize alu frames, but some of the mids were not too shabby...Power Ace, Vector, Prince 90 series and a few others.

I had one talented client who played a cheap Wilson alu that cost about the same as I charged him to restring it !(with NYLON! :) ). That guy got a lot of mileage out of that cheap racket that he said 'felt just right'. Different strokes...
 
Aluminum racquets can be perfectly good racquets. They were once the height of technology after-all. In general, compared to modern raquets the heads are not as stable as they twist easily.

The racquets they have at big box stores nowadays are even fine for the average player. Wilson Tour Slam is about 11.0+ ounces. It's stable enough and has some power and good control. Not worth restringing however.
 
That is the benefit of racquets like the Wilson Tour Slam and the Prince titanium range; if a string goes or they get a bit beaten up, its easy enough to just go and get a complete new racquet.
 
Years ago, I loved hitting with the Prince Pro 90, but for some reason, I chose the Prince Original Graphite 90 instead. Both of em felt powerful, and somewhat easy on the arm.
Back in the late '80s, Jay Berger got up to #7 on the men's tour using the Prince Pro 110. When it got discontinued, he used to search in Florida stores like K-Mart, where they usually sold these "cheap" racquets, to buy some more.
 
Yes I heard about that and I think Pioline did the same.

I suppose even Pat Cash was using the Mag well into the graphite era in 1987 and he did ok.

I guess the benefits that go with graphite and other composites are not always a priority with some people, like me for example. Having used both, I just like the response and feel I get with metal.
 
Yep, Cash won Wimbledon in 1987 with the Prince Mag Pro 90. Pioline got to the 1993 US Open final with the same racquet, but painted white. When he played Sampras in the 1997 Wimbledon final, he used a Head graphite racquet.
 
Talking about the Mag....I have 2 different models; a Magnesium 110 and a Magnesium Pro (also OS).
Are there any differences?
 
Are any of these classic aluminium racquets comfortable or at least tolerable?

I have used a few cheap Walmart head aluminum racquets before and my word, they shake my bones even though I use full bed polyester with my normal stiff modern graphite racquets and have zero problems there.
 
Talking about the Mag....I have 2 different models; a Magnesium 110 and a Magnesium Pro (also OS).
Are there any differences?


I haven't had a chance to give the 90 a whirl yet, but for me the 110 is far to much of a trampoline(for me), like swinging a frying pan. Not that dissimilar from the silver/green alu prince but more solid. Having said that i this is mostly going from distant memory..
 
Are any of these classic aluminium racquets comfortable or at least tolerable?

I have used a few cheap Walmart head aluminum racquets before and my word, they shake my bones even though I use full bed polyester with my normal stiff modern graphite racquets and have zero problems there.

I played today alternating between the Prince Pro 110 and my 'cheaper' Prince titanium and both were great. The Prince Pro was great for chipping deep into the corners and following in with strong volleys, whilst the lighter racquet was so manouvrable at the net. All in all, great fun.

I just think that when you enjoy the game youve just played and you know youve played well, the result irrelevant. And who needs Roger Federer's or Rafa Nadal's racquet, when you can have Peter Doohan's!!:)
 
Tis true about enjoying the game.

Although I think Peter Doohan himself has sold out and is using the nadal racquet hahhaa.

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I played today alternating between the Prince Pro 110 and my 'cheaper' Prince titanium and both were great. The Prince Pro was great for chipping deep into the corners and following in with strong volleys, whilst the lighter racquet was so manouvrable at the net. All in all, great fun.

I just think that when you enjoy the game youve just played and you know youve played well, the result irrelevant. And who needs Roger Federer's or Rafa Nadal's racquet, when you can have Peter Doohan's!!:)
 
I know this is old, but I just had to add that I love the feel of aluminum/metal rackets. I have used just about everything in my day, but when I stopped playing about 15 years ago, I was alternating between a Volkl C-10 Pro and a PS6.0/85. As I am rebuilding my game..slowly...(the body doesn't want to cooperate! haha) I have noticed how much I enjoy the cheap titanium frames from Walmart. They are much lighter than the Prince Pro 110, Rossignol SVR, etc., but just feel good to me. And ... my arm thanks me after I have been trying to swing the Volkl for a while! I may check out some of the Wilson frames that are both light and flexible, like the Bold, until I get my swing/strenth back, along with the Titanium Whatevers. :-)
 
Great to hear many of us are still playing the metals.
I was never crazy about the t2000 but my friend had his with him at our latest dubs outing so I could not resist. It had some old soft nylon strings but still hit really well. Just take a big swing and hit that sweet spot and its wonderful.
 
It's too bad Yonex couldn't replicate the feel of the 7500/8500 in their mid-sized sticks. I never found one of their mids that felt as solid as the itty-bitty Greenie and Goldie.

I packed away a dozen or more of the mid-1980s Yonex metals when we moved...perhaps they will resurface soon ;)

Still the itty-bitty Yonex for me along with the Red Head, maybe a Vector or Edge to get just a smidge more hitting/missing area :)
 
It's too bad Yonex couldn't replicate the feel of the 7500/8500 in their mid-sized sticks. I never found one of their mids that felt as solid as the itty-bitty Greenie and Goldie.

I packed away a dozen or more of the mid-1980s Yonex metals when we moved...perhaps they will resurface soon ;)

Still the itty-bitty Yonex for me along with the Red Head, maybe a Vector or Edge to get just a smidge more hitting/missing area :)

I used "Greenie" for a while back in the day. So solid, with such feel too! Loved slicing with it.
 
Yeah, GreenOPS was the bomb.
Too bad they would crack in the welds at the junction between the head and the two throats. Golds were much worse, would crack in a month.
GreenOPS was used by both LowellBarnhardt and me, first and second place fast serve at GoldenGateway SF in 1978.
 
Yeah, GreenOPS was the bomb.
Too bad they would crack in the welds at the junction between the head and the two throats. Golds were much worse, would crack in a month.
GreenOPS was used by both LowellBarnhardt and me, first and second place fast serve at GoldenGateway SF in 1978.

I was able to serve, volley, and hit forehands with it very well, but at that point I wasn't strong enough to hit my one-handed topspin backhand with it, only my slice, which became a problem against better players. So I ended up moving to a PK Silver Ace, which felt like a feather! haha Years later though, I really enjoyed slugging from the baseline with the greenies! They felt like cannons, so solid! :-)
 
Another vote for the Gold Yonex - amazing feel... Ditto for the Head Master ( a 4 5/8ths, Medium beast)...

Read once that many thought that metal was he best all around material for most players, but the manufacturers hated it as people would not spend the big $s for a metal frame... So on to graphite...
 
I don't get it.
I went thru at least 6 green Yonex in 1.5 years.
My practice bud..No.2 for CCSF at the time, did a bit worse, maybe 8.
We couldn't keep a Gold working for more than 2 weeks without weld cracks and fractures.
 
I don't get it.
I went thru at least 6 green Yonex in 1.5 years.
My practice bud..No.2 for CCSF at the time, did a bit worse, maybe 8.
We couldn't keep a Gold working for more than 2 weeks without weld cracks and fractures.

I'm guessing we were the biggest Yonex dealer in South Carolina for the first couple of years. Really didn't send many back...those that did crack were also bent out of round from contact with the court...not the fault of the welds ;)

I never broke one and have the original Greenie used by my brother whose forearm looked like a tree trunk(pro bowler type) in the mid to later '70s. His even has the wood handle. Of course, it hasn't been used much since the early '80s, but we did some big hitting back then.
 
I wonder if it's got something to do with temps and humidity.
We normally used BlueStar synthetic at around 58 lbs., my bud around 50.
We play mostly in temps sub 62, oftentimes in sub 55, but not lower than the high 40's. Hot days would be in the 70's, as this is western SanFrancisco.
We played a few hot temp tourneys, WalnutCreek and Pleasanton, oh, and Sacto Opens. Racket felt very different, but I never went more than one round when temps reached the 90's or lower 100's.
Also, out in the fog belt, we played in foggy conditions a lot of the times, mostly late mornings, as fog was around till around 11 most summer days.
 
I wonder if it's got something to do with temps and humidity.
We normally used BlueStar synthetic at around 58 lbs., my bud around 50.
We play mostly in temps sub 62, oftentimes in sub 55, but not lower than the high 40's. Hot days would be in the 70's, as this is western SanFrancisco.
We played a few hot temp tourneys, WalnutCreek and Pleasanton, oh, and Sacto Opens. Racket felt very different, but I never went more than one round when temps reached the 90's or lower 100's.
Also, out in the fog belt, we played in foggy conditions a lot of the times, mostly late mornings, as fog was around till around 11 most summer days.

I seriously doubt that relatively minor weather variations could have any effect on a metallurgy of an aluminum racket.
 
As usual, the Yonex rep said he never heard of OPS frames cracking at the welds, totally disconnnecting the throat from the oval head after 2 months of part time play.
Both DexterLee and I could start a crack in a couple of weeks.
Lowell only used the Yonex for the fast serve contest, choosing ProStaff M's for point play. His serve was huge with PS, making mine look like a WTA serve compared to his. His 129.6 came with HUGE amount of topspin, as did Dexter's 124's.
 
As usual, the Yonex rep said he never heard of OPS frames cracking at the welds, totally disconnnecting the throat from the oval head after 2 months of part time play.
Both DexterLee and I could start a crack in a couple of weeks.
Lowell only used the Yonex for the fast serve contest, choosing ProStaff M's for point play. His serve was huge with PS, making mine look like a WTA serve compared to his. His 129.6 came with HUGE amount of topspin, as did Dexter's 124's.

I never clocked a serve with the YY. Yamaha sponsored a fast serve contest at our place and the three rackets tied at the top with 126 were T3000 !, Kramer Auto wood DEMO ! and MY Fischer Superform. The Yamaha rep was none too happy!
 
I didn't know the Fischer, but I had a pair of their downhill C-4 skis, 225cm's.
I couldn't get the ball IN with T-2's or 3's. Maybe it went fast, but it went all over the map.
I was timed at 126 ...only 2 out of 7 went in, with KramerProStaffLights, 4 5/8th grip size and blue start at 62 lbs.
KramerAutographs's were too heavy for me to serve fast. I was 5'11" and maybe 132 lbs until I hit 35 years of age.
Head Pros, the Redhead, was excellent, but didn't serve hard. Possibly that plastic throat air drag.
Master's just felt too underpowered.
 
Sooner or later all the aluminum frames would crack at the welds or the nylon throat piece (depending upon design). All my 8500's cracked, but it took several years for that to happen.
 
Gotta be the cold weather we play in.
As you all know, MarkTwain wrote..."the coldest winter I've ever spent was a summer in SanFrancisco".....
And I lived 3 blocks from the Pacific Ocean, the deepest part of the fog belt. Average temps during the summer months was 58 at 3PM, colder in the mornings and evenings. Average temps around 4AM, when I finished my taxi driving shift, was 47 degrees in the summer months.
Winters would generally be slightly cooler, but not more than 3 degrees on average.
 
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Gotta love Blue Star in those traditional aluminum frames... PDP, Head Master and Red Head, Yonex 7500 and the list goes on...
 
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Gotta love Blue Star in those traditional aluminum frames... PDP, Head Master and Red Head, Yonex 7500 and the list goes on...
Blue Star in a Head Master. How many of those DID I string?????? I think I still have a YY with Blue Star....definitely have a Rawlings TieBreaker with (probably original) Blue Star. :)
 
I grew up with graphite I was a late 80’s kid . I never ever ever dreamed of even hitting a ball with an aluminum frame ever . Until one day few years back . I’ll never forget it . It was a head pro tour something or other from aca- y sports Store $19.99...
I was FLOORED at how good it played balance and weight were perfect once a leather was put on . So good in fact I’ve purchased at least 5 or 10 over the years for simple plain fun . They can be absolutely fantastic ball hitters I was amazed absolutely. I’m 5.0 on a great day teaching pro and a master racket tech and a fellow racket nerd and string junkie . It’s down right freakish the knowledge these gentleman on these boards have and have shared with me over the years . If there is one thing I’ve learned is that people like different things and nobody knows what you like best , no matter what . So I say if you play .. and when you play you lose but the racket you used gave you joy it’s Better to use that one than with one you play your best but don’t enjoy as much .i take that advice to heart .
I do that now . I play my best with a Wilson 6.1 but I enjoy playing with my ( whatever ) more even tho I don’t play my all time best , but I’m having more fun . And that’s what it’s alllllllllllll about man. Fun .
 
Likewise, I loved my aluminum racquets. First, I played with a hand-me-down Head Master and later with a ProKennex Power Dominator. I liked the flex and the racquet head speed plus the stability. They were a little short on power but had great feel. The first graphite and graphite composite racquets where very unsophisticated compared to the modern frames we have today. They had little feel and, initially, I could not play with them. Not only were aluminum and other metal racquets very playable, they were also very reasonably priced. I really miss them. It is a shame that modern aluminum racquets are designed for beginners who don't want to spend a lot of money and are built to a price. They are also too light.
 
AFAIK the last pro using an aluminum racquet was Cédric Pioline. He used the Prince Magnesium Pro 90 for a long time, not sure when he switched to a graphite frame but I remember he was still using his Prince when he made it to the USO final in 1994.
 
I have heard it said that the manufacturers loved the switch to graphite because they could make little $ on metal frames. They were inexpensive to make and the population knew that.
Anyone who doubts the variety and control and power of a metal frame has not seen Goolagong, Cash or Rosewall play on... In my mind's eye, Goolagong's variety and control is breathtaking to witness. I believe that it was a Dunlop Volley with that superior Natty G ( some shorter sets , less than 33', were often made from Sheep, softer) of that era.
 
I have a handful of aluminum racquets. I haven’t played with one in many, many years. I have taken a T2000 out and played it a couple of years back.

I just picked up a Wilson Rally in near new condition. It felt good when I swung it and it was $1.50 at the thrift store. I couldn’t not buy it.

Fwiw, my first racquet was a Bancroft aluminum racquet purchased at the local Kmart. I loved that thing.
 
I may have mentioned this before...I was playing the Spalding Smasher aluminum back when everyone had a T2000 or 3000. Owned many many Red Head Pros over the years and even a cold-drawn aluminum Rawlings TieBreaker. Still have my brother's YY8500 from the mid-70s(last strung in '95)...one of the last rackets I hit with before I discovered Pickleball ;)
 
AFAIK the last pro using an aluminum racquet was Cédric Pioline. He used the Prince Magnesium Pro 90 for a long time, not sure when he switched to a graphite frame but I remember he was still using his Prince when he made it to the USO final in 1994.
Yes, he used this great racquet in white pj. The same used Pat Cash to win Wimby in 1987, the last player who won a GS title with metall.
 
Pioline! Wish to god I knew how he got a WHITE MAG PRO ? No one knows ! No one .... did he in fact paint it ? Don’t know .. did he EVER PLAY with the gun metal gray normal mag pro ? Anyone know this amazing trivia question?
 
I have heard it said that the manufacturers loved the switch to graphite because they could make little $ on metal frames. They were inexpensive to make and the population knew that.
Anyone who doubts the variety and control and power of a metal frame has not seen Goolagong, Cash or Rosewall play on... In my mind's eye, Goolagong's variety and control is breathtaking to witness. I believe that it was a Dunlop Volley with that superior Natty G ( some shorter sets , less than 33', were often made from Sheep, softer) of that era.
Yes, but even today you will find lower end racquets of aluminum alloy and a plastic bridge on head of racquet from the bigger companies but if I was going a cheaper route now, or most brands titanium is probably going to be your best bet because head will be more like a modern racquet in beam shape and a full one piece head, no plastic bridge, though I can find online some Chinese made models in same Aluminum alloy using same specs as a bigger brand titanium model going more modern in head design.

I use an aluminum racquet, ProKennex Jr Ace Pro Power Contour mainly Red & Blue version ih 4 &1/4 inch grip where I own 4 in Red and Blue here all but original from 2002--2003 were bought off e-Bay in 2023--2024 as made in Tawain. I have as well, 2 matte Yellow & Black models with 4 inch grip made in final run from Chinese factories 2024 becuse I thought I was getting a good deal $25 each no shipping for 2 bran new unused racquets but one had a well used string-bead and no big wear anywhere else. I plan on using my Yellow & Black smaller 4 inch racquets when I have sore hands. Original was a K-mart special as Yellow & Black matte model was replacing Red & Blue in ProKennex Jr Ace Pro Power Contour model.

I do my own thing for grip I have never seen anyone else do ever and for an over grip I am using black cloth hockey tape wide barely overlapping spiral of maybe 1/4 overlap at mots on a 1 inch/2.54 cm tape where on bottom open end I use a little Loctite Ultra Gel Control (waterproof) for keeping grip from unraveling as on op I wrap tape around again before doing spiral. To remove sticky grip issue, I use dirt/soil brushing of majority and then working in/lightly removing with a fully damp paper towel/rag rest of dirt/soil. I use tape over original failing vinyl grip, so I have sharp corners and do not add much in weight. I also have done to all Red & Blue models on head top part is carefully added some black spray on rubber for a protection on paint/metal scaping as paint/wrap is not good unlike matte primer paint Yellow & Black models have.
 
Likewise, I loved my aluminum racquets. First, I played with a hand-me-down Head Master and later with a ProKennex Power Dominator. I liked the flex and the racquet head speed plus the stability. They were a little short on power but had great feel. The first graphite and graphite composite racquets were very unsophisticated compared to the modern frames we have today. They had little feel and, initially, I could not play with them. Not only were aluminum and other metal racquets very playable, they were also very reasonably priced. I really miss them. It is a shame that modern aluminum racquets are designed for beginners who don't want to spend a lot of money and are built to a price. They are also too light.
I would go titanium over aluminum if I was starting today as they have modern beam shape and are heavier nearer to modern tennis specs. However, a 25 inch long Jr racquet is a tick hard to find for my size in titanium as they go really cheap beginner aluminum or same as carbon fiber adult model only made smaller in all specs. Head has a few models of titanium as does Wilson and Dunlop.

Also, this Chinese brand below is using a modern beam shape on an aluminum racquet here is 310 grams strung up so probably 280 grams unstrung if we do not count 30 grams of string.
https://www.amazon.com/TENGAOSI-Beg...YQQWJL/ref=sxin_16_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa
 
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I would go titanium over aluminum if I was starting today as they have modern beam shape and are heavier nearer to modern tennis specs. However, a 25 inch long Jr racquet is a tick hard to find for my size in titanium as they go really cheap beginner aluminum or same as carbon fiber adult model only made smaller in all specs. Head has a few models of titanium as does Wilson and Dunlop.

Also, this Chinese brand below is using a modern beam shape on an aluminum racquet here is 310 grams strung up so probably 280 grams unstrung if we do not count 30 grams of string.
https://www.amazon.com/TENGAOSI-Beg...YQQWJL/ref=sxin_16_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa
Amazon the model above is going fast, 13 left is only +/- 10 grams

Also, on tennis-warehouse seller page there is a 27 inch aluminum frame Dunlop Nitro with a 100 square inch head in the Jr racquet section made for bigger teens--beginner adults here you have a 275 gram head minimum for most players and I am sure you can find model on Amazon or somewhere else.

Also, if smaller a 26 inch Ektelon Rogue is 244 grams and is all aluminum but looks more like a cheap/kids racquet so probably only for kids and small adults
 
I preferred aluminium back in the day when the other option was wood because the aluminium frames felt more lively and easier to play with but had more vibration. Back in the day wood racquets felt very dead and heavy.
I would like to have a hit with the new frames from Sweden- the Epork with its mid plus design and thicker beam construction - the price is up
there though,
 
I preferred aluminum back in the day when the other option was wood because the aluminum frames felt more lively and easier to play with but had more vibration. Back in the day wood racquets felt very dead and heavy.
I would like to have a hit with the new frames from Sweden- the Epork with its mid plus design and thicker beam construction - the price is up
there though,
Also, on AliExpress for $100 before tax is a classic wood and bamboo racquet like a similar style of an older wood Prince using Bamboo and wood. Seller says model is not or play when company is saying is made taking specs of a few old models and using best of each one for durability.

Yeah, I would love to try new wood racquets in 98 square inch frame made as an older Jr 25 inch length model but yeah price is one of the more expensive made at 1,500 Euros.

All I can say is aluminum has got to be better then an unpainted stainless steel 95 square inch frame 27.5 inch length frame Wilson my parents or I as a young kid had in early 1990's before racquet failed and as falling apart due to age around 1995 10 years in on model. Model was some kind of Wilson Pro Staff Y300/Y3000 below saying on same sticker, Jimmy Connors model. Yes, racquet was a real model my parent found in apartments we were living in at the time. I remember 1 time using said racquet as a kid and hurting my shoulder so bad even a friend who had final run wood Spalding 1960's models made by Japan factories as a Prince clone were easier to use.
I assume but could be wrong, that Jimmy Connors he liked steel going back to his older Wilson T2000/T2500 models and was never going to switch unless he could find a steel racquet given how much vibration old Wilson model had with a leather grip as why model was made.

I imagine old Steel for a modern feel is like using titanium racquet with a leather no padding or single layer cloth tape grip right on the metal with thin cheap stiff poly string racquet came with and no dampener.
 
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I started playing in middle school with a generic red aluminum racquet I got at a dime store for like $8. It was a decent frame, but aluminum has that pesky permanent deformation problem. Eventually that aluminum frame became lopsided from court impacts to the point it was noticeable and I had a preferred way of holding it, which I think just made the problem worse. It was a great frame for $8 new though. I loved the look of it at the time.
 
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