Why do so many people on this forum concentrate on putting players down?

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Unfortunately, far too many people on here seem to think that in order to support the player of their choice then they must denigrate, ridicule and put down anybody else who may be a possible rival!

Nadal gets it in the neck from Fed fans, Nadal fans reply in kind by sneering at Fed's poor record against their man, Djokovic gets it in the neck from both Fed and Nadal fans for intruding into their patch, Murray gets it in the neck particularly from Fed fans (how dare he presume to have a positive H2H against him) and also from Djokovic fans for daring to challenge their man!

But it's my impression that Nadal and Murray are, by far, the most abused and disrespected players on here. The number of constantly negative threads posted about them by 'fans' of rival players is truly staggering and eye-opening!

People who hate and try to denigrate other players just because they can't handle them beating their idols are simply immature and too emotionally unstable to engage in rational conversation. Having wasted too much time on here trying to reason with them, I speak from bitter experience! :twisted:

This post is so true. And there is no reason for it, at all.
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Yours was a joke in poor taste. As soon as Nadal lost at this year's Wimbledon, innumerable posts and threads mocking his career, majors chances, skills, etc., littered this board. The evidence is there for all to see, just as it was readily available in 2012 at the same event.

No one could have possibly missed that. At one point I counted 13 threads. Of course, they petered out when Roger promptly lost the next round, but they were there and it was beyond disgusting.
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
The usual suspects(Monfed, dudeski, tennis_pro etc) also troll Nadal's match threads to the point of making them unreadable, especially if he's losing. To even suggest that any player gets as much hate on here as Nadal is pure bull ****.

It makes you wonder what their angle is, because no one can be that blind.
 

fastgrass

Banned
First it was Murray and how terrible he was and how he would never win a slam. Then it was how the Olympic Gold was rubbish. Then it was how he would never win a 2nd slam.

Then it was the end of Nadal when he got beaten by Rosol, how he would never be back and never win anything again because of his knee.

Now its multiple negative threads about Federer.

Maybe he'll won't win an 18th. Maybe he will. Isn't it more interesting to wait and see? People were writing off Sampras before his final USO.

Way too much negativity and trolling from certani posters on this forum.

telling truth is not hating always
if u want to criticise any player from top guys to any
u need supporting stats
 

Praetorian

Professional
First it was Murray and how terrible he was and how he would never win a slam. Then it was how the Olympic Gold was rubbish. Then it was how he would never win a 2nd slam.

Then it was the end of Nadal when he got beaten by Rosol, how he would never be back and never win anything again because of his knee.

Now its multiple negative threads about Federer.

Maybe he'll won't win an 18th. Maybe he will. Isn't it more interesting to wait and see? People were writing off Sampras before his final USO.

Way too much negativity and trolling from certani posters on this forum.

Actually says a lot about the person. 99% of the time , people who post hate is just redirecting their anger from their own personal problems and shortcomings in life, that most are in denial of.
 

rafan

Hall of Fame
Actually says a lot about the person. 99% of the time , people who post hate is just redirecting their anger from their own personal problems and shortcomings in life, that most are in denial of.

Well yes. Also how many people are using tennis players as though they are horses in a race and bet on them?
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
The usual suspects(Monfed, dudeski, tennis_pro etc) also troll Nadal's match threads to the point of making them unreadable, especially if he's losing. To even suggest that any player gets as much hate on here as Nadal is pure bull ****.

It makes you wonder what their angle is, because no one can be that blind.

Don't be ridiculous. Nadal has excellent supporters from the Sampras fans, who jump on his bandwagon just to crucify Roger everyday. While Nadal has some hate, Fed gets hate by all fanbases....they are coming after him at every 360 degrees. It's no comparison !
 

Ellipses

Rookie
I love how everything becomes a flipping competition around here. The general thread topic is "why is there so much negativity and hate?" and not "who gets the most hate?"

And then I find it really funny that people start hating in order to prove that "their" player gets more hate. Kind of counter-productive...
 

Murrayfan31

Hall of Fame
Nadal and Federer are so easy to put down. Nadal is a cheater with OCD. Federer has a huge ego and is a poor loser. He also seems quite snobby.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal and Federer are so easy to put down. Nadal is a cheater with OCD. Federer has a huge ego and is a poor loser. He also seems quite snobby.

I think people misunderstood between hating and disapproval. Nadal is called out for on court coaching doesn't equate to hate, it's similar to criticizing Serena's outburst at the USO.
 

storypeddler

Semi-Pro
People have insecurity issues, It's the old "my dad can beat up your dad" argument rephrased on here over and over. People feel others HAVE to see their favorite as the best and they can't deal with it emotionally when they don't. SO they become aggressive and insulting and rude. It's the "I have to win" thing again, and this time it isn't even them playing. LOL.
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Don't be ridiculous. Nadal has excellent supporters from the Sampras fans, who jump on his bandwagon just to crucify Roger everyday. While Nadal has some hate, Fed gets hate by all fanbases....they are coming after him at every 360 degrees. It's no comparison !

:::Shaking my head:::

There's just nothing to say if you really believe this.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
:::Shaking my head:::

There's just nothing to say if you really believe this.

Some will say anything to make Federer appear to be a victim, when he's not subjected to the sickening hatred aimed at Nadal (and others) at the hands of Federer's fans.

His fans are so extreme, they are even threatening to leave the board...and mutilate themselves if Nadal wins another non-clay major. That is beyond disturbing. It is a dangerous level of hatred.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
:::Shaking my head:::

There's just nothing to say if you really believe this.

Are you saying there isn't any Sampras fans jumping on Nadal's bandwagon to attack Federer? 90's clay, TheNatural, NadalAgassi, Behappy, BrooklynNY, Cesc etc. ring a bell ?

Face it, Fed is surround by hate from many fanbases, even in the former pro player talk forum he gets attack. And fans from the WTA(eg Serena fans) also spent a great deal amount of time bashing Federer.

I'm shaking my head that you are unaware of what's going. Or perhaps you don't want to accept the truth.
 
M

monfed

Guest
Are you saying there isn't any Sampras fans jumping on Nadal's bandwagon to attack Federer? 90's clay, TheNatural, NadalAgassi, Behappy, BrooklynNY, Cesc etc. ring a bell ?

Face it, Fed is surround by hate from many fanbases, even in the former pro player talk forum he gets attack. And fans from the WTA(eg Serena fans) also spent a great deal amount of time bashing Federer.

I'm shaking my head that you are unaware of what's going. Or perhaps you don't want to accept the truth.

Please add kragster and The_Champ to that list too,thanks. Heck I think even SoBad belongs to the same bandwagon hopping tribe.

Oh yea you're right about the former pro player forum. That place is worse than this forum in some ways. Have you seen their best BHs of all time list? Fed's at 25 or something and Fed's not even INCLUDED in their greatest volleyer of all time list. LMAO! :lol:
 
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Incognito

Legend
Please add kragster and The_Champ to that list too,thanks. Heck I think even SoBad belongs to the same bandwagon hopping tribe.

Oh yea you're right about the former pro player forum. That place is worse than this forum in some ways. Have you seen their best BHs of all time list? Fed's at 25 or something :and Fed's not even INCLUDED in their greatest volleyer of all time list. LMAO! :lol

depends how long the list is.

Don't know about the 70s and 80s, but let's see, in 90s alone:

Edberg, Rafter, Sampras, Becker, Stich, Krajicek, Henman, Todd Martin, the woodbridges, Järryd, Björkman, Arthurs, Myrni, G. Forget, haarhuis, Eltingh, Pioline..

Fed is a capable volleyer but he doesn't belong among the best on that department.
 
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clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
You list Murray, Nadal and Federer. Why did you skip current #1 and the best player in the world Djokovic?

How come you never mention Djokovic who gets by far the worst treatment, the most negative comments and is put down by hater posters the most?

Why?

Perhaps because you, in particular, are responsible for the number of hate posts about Nadal which helps to put him on top of the tree of the players with the most hate-posts. Djoker doesn't get so many hate posts because as one of the culprits of hate posts you are a fan of his.
 

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
depends how long the list is.

Don't know about the 70s and 80s, but let's see, in 90s alone:

Edberg, Rafter, Sampras, Becker, Stich, Krajicek, Henman, Todd Martin, the woodbridges, Järryd, Björkman, Arthurs, Myrni, G. Forget, haarhuis, Eltingh, Pioline..

Fed is a capable volleyer but he doesn't belong among the best on that department.
Yes totalement agree

Guys, have you watched the last match of Federer against Brands and all these easy volleys into the net ? That was pathetic... IMO Federer's volley is fine but not amazing, he doesn't volley better than Guillermo Coria.
 

HughJars

Banned
To all the haters on this forum: hows your professional tennis career going????

Now go cry yourself to sleep
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
To all the haters on this forum: hows your professional tennis career going????

Now go cry yourself to sleep

Heh, it's funny because it's accurate. There's no one angrier than an armchair, caps-lock, flame warrior with aspirations to mediocrity.
 
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THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
depends how long the list is.

Don't know about the 70s and 80s, but let's see, in 90s alone:

Edberg, Rafter, Sampras, Becker, Stich, Krajicek, Henman, Todd Martin, the woodbridges, Järryd, Björkman, Arthurs, Myrni, G. Forget, haarhuis, Eltingh, Pioline..

No question about it: it is impossible to count him among the high levels of the list, and let us not forget a player like Leconte and masters in the technique such as Laver or John McEnroe, et al. The list can go on and on.

Fed is a capable volleyer but he doesn't belong among the best on that department.

Agreed.
 
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Gonzalito17

Banned
It is weird how there can be pure hate for certain players who are just grinding to make a career. Respect to them all, it's a tough life to even get to the top 500, then it's even harder to stay there or move up.

A good site for honest tennis talk where players are not harshy criticized, ripped or savaged is www.tennis-prose.com
 
When Ralph loses I dont see a lot of threads popping up but yea there are the obligatory troll posts.
monfed, are you serious? When Nadal lost at Wimbledon, people were gleefully tripping over themselves in a rush to post one thread after another of Nadal ridicule. Not having a dog (Fed or Nadal) in the fight, I found a lot of it funny, but funny at some of the absurd overboard nonsense that some fanatics actually seemed to believe.

. As soon as Nadal lost at this year's Wimbledon, innumerable posts and threads mocking his career, majors chances, skills, etc., littered this board. The evidence is there for all to see, just as it was readily available in 2012 at the same event.
^^^
This is what I saw.

Don't know what you're talking about and No Ralph didn't get anywhere near the same amount of flack Fed got when he was ejected in the second round of Wimby 13,there were retirement/RIP threads all over the place.
come on monfed, the topspin monkey got raked over the coals in numbers that dwarfed the flack Fed got.




Don't be ridiculous. Nadal has excellent supporters from the Sampras fans, who jump on his bandwagon just to crucify Roger everyday. While Nadal has some hate, Fed gets hate by all fanbases....they are coming after him at every 360 degrees. It's no comparison !
^^^
Quoted for bullshit.

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TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Some will say anything to make Federer appear to be a victim, when he's not subjected to the sickening hatred aimed at Nadal (and others) at the hands of Federer's fans.

His fans are so extreme, they are even threatening to leave the board...and mutilate themselves if Nadal wins another non-clay major. That is beyond disturbing. It is a dangerous level of hatred.

It actually scares me. There are many posters on this board that I would be afraid of in person. I can't understand the vitriol and glad that I can't.
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Are you saying there isn't any Sampras fans jumping on Nadal's bandwagon to attack Federer? 90's clay, TheNatural, NadalAgassi, Behappy, BrooklynNY, Cesc etc. ring a bell ?

Face it, Fed is surround by hate from many fanbases, even in the former pro player talk forum he gets attack. And fans from the WTA(eg Serena fans) also spent a great deal amount of time bashing Federer.

I'm shaking my head that you are unaware of what's going. Or perhaps you don't want to accept the truth.

Why do you make the assumption that they're jumping on Nadal's bandwagon as a way of attacking Federer? It seems that anyone who doesn't worship at the altar of Federer is accused of being Sampras fans, jealous of Federer's records, scared that he will be the GOAT, etc. around here.

Most of the non-Federer fans have little problem with his game or his achievements, they don't like his attitude (throughout his entire career). Some people just like Nadal better. That shouldn't be that hard to understand.
 

Eragon

Banned
So when Fed fans like Magnus, Smashup guy, The Viv, Dafinch, fedisgod etc etc say they hate Nadal, it means they really love him huh. Your logic is as sound as your worship for Fed..............:twisted:

His logic is sound. Are you a Beiber hater or do you just disapprove of his music? :lol: I guess saying you disapprove of his music would mean that you love him, by your asinine logic :twisted: You are ridiculous.
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
TheTruth doesn't want to accept the truth :)


No, some people are just more comfortable with lies. Anyone who's been on this board knows that some of the stuff being spouted is untrue.

i guess you can be forgiven for not having been here that long, but then again...
 

Eragon

Banned
No, some people are just more comfortable with lies. Anyone who's been on this board knows that some of the stuff being spouted is untrue.

i guess you can be forgiven for not having been here that long, but then again...

I was just acknowledging his play of words. I didn't mean anything by that comment :) Cheers!
 

moonballs

Hall of Fame
First it was Murray and how terrible he was and how he would never win a slam. Then it was how the Olympic Gold was rubbish. Then it was how he would never win a 2nd slam.

Then it was the end of Nadal when he got beaten by Rosol, how he would never be back and never win anything again because of his knee.

Now its multiple negative threads about Federer.

Maybe he'll won't win an 18th. Maybe he will. Isn't it more interesting to wait and see? People were writing off Sampras before his final USO.

Way too much negativity and trolling from certani posters on this forum.

There are a lot of negative stuff going around but the root of all this "evil" is 17>14>12.
 

Hood_Man

G.O.A.T.
Right! New Rule! Obviously the mods won't do anything about this, so I'm going to have to take matters into my own hands.

Any more hating on another player, any more negative comments with no substance or logic behind them, any more deliberate attempts to wind each other up, and I drown a kitten.

I don't want to, but you've forced my hand, starting with this little fella:

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Look at him, you want to see that struggling in the deep end of a swimming pool? Look into your hearts people, only you have the power to stop this madness.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Why do you make the assumption that they're jumping on Nadal's bandwagon as a way of attacking Federer?

It's not an assumption. 90s clay for example is a die-hard Sampras fan and he jump on Nadal's ship to disparage Federer. They rather supports Nadal because Roger broke many of Pete's records. And I know you don't like Roger breaking Pete's records either.

It seems that anyone who doesn't worship at the altar of Federer is accused of being Sampras fans, jealous of Federer's records, scared that he will be the GOAT, etc. around here.
No it's not just Sampras fans, but many fans from all fanbases - Nadal, Serena, Laver, Rosewall dislike Federer because of his achievements, his goat claim by most fans/experts.

Most of the non-Federer fans have little problem with his game or his achievements, they don't like his attitude (throughout his entire career). Some people just like Nadal better. That shouldn't be that hard to understand.
Many fans don't have a problem with Federer, but all I'm saying is on this board he has the most numbers of hate fans, more than Nadal, Sharapova, Serena, Murray, etc.
 

Eragon

Banned
You live up to your username.

And you live up to the opposite. We've all seen your posts from 4 or 5 years ago where you said you loved watching Federer play and that he was on his way to becoming the GOAT by winning the most Slams. Now you treat Federer like the second-coming of Adolf Hitler and have conveniently moved the goalpost to suggest that only the CYGS matters and nothing else :lol:
 

RafaIsBack

Professional
Some will say anything to make Federer appear to be a victim, when he's not subjected to the sickening hatred aimed at Nadal (and others) at the hands of Federer's fans.

His fans are so extreme, they are even threatening to leave the board...and mutilate themselves if Nadal wins another non-clay major. That is beyond disturbing. It is a dangerous level of hatred.

I agree :-?
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
It's not an assumption. 90s clay for example is a die-hard Sampras fan and he jump on Nadal's ship to disparage Federer. They rather supports Nadal because Roger broke many of Pete's records. And I know you don't like Roger breaking Pete's records either.


No it's not just Sampras fans, but many fans from all fanbases - Nadal, Serena, Laver, Rosewall dislike Federer because of his achievements, his goat claim by most fans/experts.

Many fans don't have a problem with Federer, but all I'm saying is on this board he has the most numbers of hate fans, more than Nadal, Sharapova, Serena, Murray, etc.

Honestly, you can't take what you view as perfection and apply that same logic to everyone else. I doubt very seriously that Pete fans would be holding a grudge five years later about broken records. What would be the point of that?

A lot of people don't like Federer and it's not because of his records, it's because of his condescending attitude.
 

Top Jimmy

Semi-Pro
The hating doesn't surprise or bother me. It's the "Player" lovers who need to get a grip. They act like these players are personal friends that need to be defended. I saw one post say something along the lines of "I'm not gonna let you bash so-and-so and get away with it, I'm going to stand up for them!" Like some player really gives a crap about some post on some nothing message board.

Just look at the first page of most of the forum topics, it's Nadal of Federer sycophants that just can't help themselves.

Wow, just checked the first page and see this beauty of a post:
"Federer fans: Why did you love Federer and become a Federer fan in the first place?"

I think there needs to be more ripping on players after seeing that.
 

NEW_BORN

Hall of Fame
The hating doesn't surprise or bother me. It's the "Player" lovers who need to get a grip. They act like these players are personal friends that need to be defended. I saw one post say something along the lines of "I'm not gonna let you bash so-and-so and get away with it, I'm going to stand up for them!" Like some player really gives a crap about some post on some nothing message board.

Just look at the first page of most of the forum topics, it's Nadal of Federer sycophants that just can't help themselves.

Wow, just checked the first page and see this beauty of a post:
"Federer fans: Why did you love Federer and become a Federer fan in the first place?"

I think there needs to be more ripping on players after seeing that.


Why don't we start with your favourites then, Jimmy?
Hating on your favourite player is like bashing someone you like.
Only a gutless wonder would sit idly by and let someone rip your favourites apart.
 

Sorana fan

Banned
I think Ferrer is the most abused player on this boards.
Really difficut to understand when he's such a nice and genuine guy.
 

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
I think Ferrer is the most abused player on this boards.
Really difficut to understand when he's such a nice and genuine guy.

+1

but most people here don't know anything about tennis, if they did they would have watched the greatest matches of Ferrer last year, vs Murray FO, vs Berdych Davis cup, vs Tipsarevic US open...
 

rajah84

Semi-Pro
First it was Murray and how terrible he was and how he would never win a slam. Then it was how the Olympic Gold was rubbish. Then it was how he would never win a 2nd slam.

Then it was the end of Nadal when he got beaten by Rosol, how he would never be back and never win anything again because of his knee.

Now its multiple negative threads about Federer.

Maybe he'll won't win an 18th. Maybe he will. Isn't it more interesting to wait and see? People were writing off Sampras before his final USO.

Way too much negativity and trolling from certani posters on this forum.

Welcome to earth.
 
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