Why doesn't Kenin get media hype?

BH40love

Semi-Pro
Kenin won the Australian Open and ESPN and other media outlets could care less cause it’s not CoCo. If anything they will hype Coco more saying she lost to the champion.
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
#2 is the biggest one, by far. Bouchard had one good tournament and every company in the world started throwing money at her lmao. She's been off the map for YEARS now and still a bunch of droolers on TT follow her every first round exit. Serena is the women's GOAT, but could never touch Sharapova in endorsement $$$$.
Actually, Bouchard is superficially hot i.e. when you examine her better she is rather unattractive.

As far as Kenin, she does have a decent body. But that isn't enough for huge media hype of course. Not every Russian can be a Sharapova. Serena of course gets coverage coz she beats everyone, and because it's PC to support her.
 

luvly

Professional
Coco is way too hyped by the American media. She's a good player for sure and has potential, but I can't stand the all the talk of her being 14-15. Yes, she's technically that young, but physically she's a freaking grown woman. Her voice is also deep unlike a typical teenager. It would be amazing if she played the way she did as a typical physical teenager. Physically she's at no disadvantage at all, but her head is more mature than her age, so that I'll give to her.

CoCo is a 15 year old teenager period. Don't try and make her an adult or say that she has an adult body when she does not.
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru

Jobert

New User
We've been paying attention to Kenin this past year and saw her play in Cincy. What sets her apart from other players is the fire in her belly. I see that in Andreescu as well. I was hoping that Ash Barty was developing more of it because she seemed feistier in this tournament, but nerves got to her. I miss that combo of belly fire and mental toughness to back it up in women's tennis. Evert, Graf, Seles pre-stabbing, Navratilova all had it. Serena had it for awhile and now it has abandoned her. Will be interesting to see if Kenin and Andreescu can maintain it in the face of media pressure and expectations nowadays.
 

KG1965

Legend
The media are not very interested to tennis.
The media are not interested to women's tennis.
The media don't consider AO to be a slam like any other.

Summary: Kenin is a woman, therefore little considered, she won a little considered slam of a little considered sport.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
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Congratulations to Sofia Kenin! Now, the 4th American Lady active tour player to win a GS Singles Title! The other being Sloan, Serena and Venus!
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4-6, 6-2, 6-2!
 
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Deleted member 22147

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Serena has been marketable. You like curves more like that?

Serena's physique certainly does appeal to a lot of men, whether they like to admit it or not. Kenin is like "skinny fat" physique, with no curves whatsoever. Serena, without all of the plastic surgery and despite not really being very good looking, is still considerably better looking than Kenin.

She's the most successful player, almost ever, which also helps. She also had a presence, right from the get go, which Kenin doesn't have.

I'm just stating facts. I would much rather see Kenin win than Serena Williams!
 

NiCo515

Rookie
Serena, without all of the plastic surgery and despite not really being very good looking, is still considerably better looking than Kenin.
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Whew lad. Hard disagree. Serena is about as far from pretty as it gets. Kenin is somewhat average at least. She's by no means ugly.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Serena's physique certainly does appeal to a lot of men, whether they like to admit it or not. Kenin is like "skinny fat" physique, with no curves whatsoever. Serena, without all of the plastic surgery and despite not really being very good looking, is still considerably better looking than Kenin.

She's the most successful player, almost ever, which also helps. She also had a presence, right from the get go, which Kenin doesn't have.

I'm just stating facts. I would much rather see Kenin win than Serena Williams!
Bouchard also got no curves though.

I think Kenin looks pretty good! I liked the Fila outfits too! Not so spoiled in tennis when it comes to stunners ala model looking. In WTA it’s not many considering. In other sports there are more! Skiing for example, men and women.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Kenin's outfit was a half-size too small and it made her look like a plump sardine stuffed in a small can.

I hope that doesn't come across as too salty a remark.
 
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Bouchard also got no curves though.

I think Kenin looks pretty good! I liked the Fila outfits too! Not so spoiled in tennis when it comes to stunners ala model looking. In WTA it’s not many considering. In other sports there are more! Skiing for example, men and women.

the era of blonde + long legs + nice azz snow-white's long gone, now it's 7 female dwarfs' turn to be on the top:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D............not bad for tennis at all, eyes on the ball. not on player's butt, lolololololol:love::love::love::love::love:................
 
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Deleted member 22147

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Bouchard also got no curves though.

I think Kenin looks pretty good! I liked the Fila outfits too! Not so spoiled in tennis when it comes to stunners ala model looking. In WTA it’s not many considering. In other sports there are more! Skiing for example, men and women.

Neither has Boulter or Giorgi. But they are attractive. Kenin isn't attractive and her physique is "skinny fat". Pretty shocking for a pro athlete, I think. I can't get over how many women are in that kind of shape despite being a professional athlete. It's literally their job.

Kenin has just won the Australian Open. Imagine how much better she would be if she was physically where she could be.
 
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Deleted member 22147

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Whew lad. Hard disagree. Serena is about as far from pretty as it gets. Kenin is somewhat average at least. She's by no means ugly.

Look at Serena's plastic face.

Regardless, you're lying if you're saying you'd rather get behind Kenin over Serena Williams. You'll never convince me otherwise, bud.
 
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Deleted member 22147

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Then be happy you didnt watch women tennis in 90's, you would get eye cancer from hotties like Vicario and Martinez

What makes you think I didn't watch any women's tennis in the 90s? LOL
 

NiCo515

Rookie
Look at Serena's plastic face.

Regardless, you're lying if you're saying you'd rather get behind Kenin over Serena Williams. You'll never convince me otherwise, bud.
lol there's no way in hell I'd ever touch Serena. Maybe just to say I did because she's globally known, but if she wasn't famous, you'd have to pay me good money to get behind her. It's a shame really because she looked so much better before all the plastic surgery and whatever exogenous hormones that made her gain 30 pounds over the years. I'm shocked that you find Kenin that repulsive. She's just an average girl. Maybe even slightly cuter than average. Her fiery attitude really makes me root for her, and the little outbursts of emotion after holding serve in the final were hilarious.
 

JackSockIsTheBest

Professional
She is a young American in a grand slam final. Where is the constant ESPN hype? Where is the Tennis Channel Hype? Imagine Coco making a slam final at Sofia's age, or Serena, or Sloane Stephens. Why is there no publicity or hype for Kenin? I really can't figure it out. Is there an agenda or something?

But either way, I am super pumped!!!!
cuz people are stupid
 

pcft369

Rookie
Is she amazing though? Lots of 15 yo accomplished a lot more than gauff: seles, capriati, hingis, austin to name a few...
 
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oldmanfan

Legend
Is she amazing though? Lots of 15 yo accomplished a lot more than gauff: seles, capriati, hingis, austin to name a few...

Yes, Seles, Capriati, Hingis, Austin are unreal. Especially Seles with her 8 teenage-slams.

Gauff is amazing to me bc her level of tennis and athleticism at 15yo is very high. That doesn't meant she'll be as great as teenage Seles, Capriati, Hingis, Austin though. Those are separate points.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Neither has Boulter or Giorgi. But they are attractive. Kenin isn't attractive and her physique is "skinny fat". Pretty shocking for a pro athlete, I think. I can't get over how many women are in that kind of shape despite being a professional athlete. It's literally their job.

Kenin has just won the Australian Open. Imagine how much better she would be if she was physically where she could be.
My point initially was, if Serena is marketable Kenin is too.Kenins family from what I understood started w less than Serenas, so their background isn’t that different.
Zverevs parents are both Russian, but he says he feels 100% German and Europeans sees him as German. Europe doesn’t have an easier relationship to Russia compared to Russia and USA. Zverev is signing luxury brands. Tsitsipas is half Russian and he is now the youngest Rolex ambassador in history.
Nike is sponsoring all the Russian male youngsters. I think she is marketable! If not Nike signs here, maybe Adidas? They seem to catch the best players on the men’s side.
 
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Deleted member 22147

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My point initially was, if Serena is marketable Kenin is too.Kenins family from what I understood started w less than Serenas, so their background isn’t that different.
Zverevs parents are both Russian, but he says he feels 100% German and Europeans sees him as German. Europe doesn’t have an easier relationship to Russia compared to Russia and USA. Zverev is signing luxury brands. Tsitsipas is half Russian and he is now the youngest Rolex ambassador in history.
Nike is sponsoring all the Russian male youngsters. I think she is marketable! If not Nike signs here, maybe Adidas? They seem to catch the best players on the men’s side.

No disrespect to you, mate. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. But I think that is a ludicrous statement. They are completely different, worlds apart in so many ways.

And Nike has dominated the African American market for decades. There's a tonne of academic literature on the latter, which is an interesting read, if you can be bothered. This partnership has only benefitted both parties hugely for 15+ years.
 
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lol there's no way in hell I'd ever touch Serena. Maybe just to say I did because she's globally known, but if she wasn't famous, you'd have to pay me good money to get behind her. It's a shame really because she looked so much better before all the plastic surgery and whatever exogenous hormones that made her gain 30 pounds over the years. I'm shocked that you find Kenin that repulsive. She's just an average girl. Maybe even slightly cuter than average. Her fiery attitude really makes me root for her, and the little outbursts of emotion after holding serve in the final were hilarious.

You'd be missing out. I'm sure Serena would be great fun.

Kenin is in the same league as Halep, for me. Euchhh.
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
Actually, Bouchard is superficially hot i.e. when you examine her better she is rather unattractive.

As far as Kenin, she does have a decent body. But that isn't enough for huge media hype of course. Not every Russian can be a Sharapova. Serena of course gets coverage coz she beats everyone, and because it's PC to support her.
I agree with bout Bouch but Kenin has no way anything near a good body its balance is Butch
like her father and the overly short skirt is revolting she has no butt just bones there its off!
her bladder sticks out more than her chest all the bulges are in the wrong places.
Her arms are so short they come up to her waist and her face is like first stages of rabies.

At least Bouch has a great feminine body, good smile but nothing spectacular its just being
so many blue moons since Kournikova and those smitten by her are now to old and too blind
to notice that Bouch is just another girl next door vs true beauty.

I rate Bouch's looks on par with Muguruza. Mug has a beautiful smile an cute face a feminine
body and mannerism of a lady.

Apart from looks love the variety Kenin has and when you look at Muguruza she could only
wish she had such ability and heart. Mug's fh, bh and serve are such failures it surprises
me she could beat a red hot Halep by using her pace then fall apart at new opponents.
Anyone notice how shoulderless Mugs closed FH stance is with such a western grip?
Also her BH has such little extension its so cramped. Totally amazing she gets so far.
 
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UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
I agree with bout Bouch but Kenin has no way anything near a good body its balance is Butch
like her father and the overly short skirt is revolting she has no butt just bones there its off!
her bladder sticks out more than her chest all the bulges are in the wrong places.
Her arms are so short they come up to her waist and her face is like first stages of rabies.

At least Bouch has a great feminine body, good smile but nothing spectacular its just being
so many blue moons since Kournikova and those smitten by her are now to old and too blind
to notice that Bouch is just another girl next door vs true beauty.

I rate Bouch's looks on par with Muguruza. Mug has a beautiful smile an cute face a feminine
body and mannerism of a lady.

Apart from looks love the variety Kenin has and when you look at Muguruza she could only
wish she had such ability and heart. Mug's fh, bh and serve are such failures it surprises
me she could beat a red hot Halep by using her pace then fall apart at new opponents.
Anyone notice how shoulderless Mugs closed FH stance is with such a western grip?
Also her BH has such little extension its so cramped. Totally amazing she gets so far.
I meant Kenin is well-built for a pro, not compared to hot women on the internet...

Muguruza is hot? She is quite manly. If she were a guy she could play 007.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
No disrespect to you, mate. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. But I think that is a ludicrous statement. They are completely different, worlds apart in so many ways.

And Nike has dominated the African American market for decades. There's a tonne of academic literature on the latter, which is an interesting read, if you can be bothered. This partnership has only benefitted both parties hugely for 15+ years.
Nike has sponsored Fed and Rafa, Sharapova, Phelps etc too. So it’s not like they only sponsor people of colour.
 

Lumber

Rookie
She got a lot of hype with one of my non tennis friend. He called her skirt an over sized belt. :D

It seems skirts are getting shorter all the time. They could just skip them soon and do away with all pretenses.
It's all for sponsor purposes.
 

tennis24x7

Hall of Fame
Kenin's outfit was a half-size too small and it made her look like a plump sardine stuffed in a small can.

I hope that doesn't come across as too salty a remark.
Love the comment, I think one full size smaller. I think it may be lucky outfit or something
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
No disrespect to you, mate. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. But I think that is a ludicrous statement. They are completely different, worlds apart in so many ways.

And Nike has dominated the African American market for decades. There's a tonne of academic literature on the latter, which is an interesting read, if you can be bothered. This partnership has only benefitted both parties hugely for 15+ years.

Dominating the African American market was very important not just for $$$
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
There is nothing to see there except the girl next door trying to look sexy
Looks like a skin laced fridge with limbs and jaw like an older Dolf Lundgren

Sloane Stephens has a way better curves and sweet full teeth smile
 
Lets face it, she plays an ugly boring game, has an unlikeable horrible personality, is a huge whiner on court with an even worse attitude than Simona Halep which is saying something. Her successes also come not from her own tennis but form other players badly underperforming, like her frankly lame Australian Open title which only came through a cupcake draw, beating a 10% Barty and maybe a 40% Muguruza. She will NEVER be popular even in the U.S, even if in some fantasy never happen scenario she won 5 or 6 majors in a row. And it isn't reverse racism or bias, it is for some very obvious reasons, she just isn't likeable or fun to watch period. There is absolutely no reason to like or celebrate her, and thus she won't be. Someone like Gauff winning the Australian Open would have been about 30 times better for American tennis.
 

daddy

Legend
Not really sure she's got the persona nor the looks. Also didn't like the way she was going about it, she's a proper tennis player and a fighter and no arguments there. She's just not lovable enough imo.
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
Lets face it, she plays an ugly boring game, has an unlikeable horrible personality, is a huge whiner on court with an even worse attitude than Simona Halep which is saying something. Her successes also come not from her own tennis but form other players badly underperforming, like her frankly lame Australian Open title which only came through a cupcake draw, beating a 10% Barty and maybe a 40% Muguruza. She will NEVER be popular even in the U.S, even if in some fantasy never happen scenario she won 5 or 6 majors in a row. And it isn't reverse racism or bias, it is for some very obvious reasons, she just isn't likeable or fun to watch period. There is absolutely no reason to like or celebrate her, and thus she won't be. Someone like Gauff winning the Australian Open would have been about 30 times better for American tennis.
Did you say she had an easy draw?

That kinda proves that you ARE very biased against her. Your description would be more befitting for a demon, than a gal trying to do her best on a tennis court.

She beat Barty (no 1), Mugu (multi-slam-champ, former no 1), and Gauff.

There have been FAR easier slam wins in recent years on the WTA to pick this one as a joke draw.
 
Did you say she had an easy draw?

That kinda proves that you ARE very biased against her. Your description would be more befitting for a demon, than a gal trying to do her best on a tennis court.

She beat Barty (no 1), Mugu (multi-slam-champ, former no 1), and Gauff.

There have been FAR easier slam wins in recent years on the WTA to pick this one as a joke draw.

Lets see, she opened with 2 straight qualifiers, then proceeded to win 4 of her final 5 matches against unseeded opponents, including an unseeded opponent in the final. Yes easy draw by any objective measure that isn't full of excuse making.

As for comparing Kenin to a demon, I would never do that, demons are far more likeable and charismatic. Probably have more fans than Kenin too. :-D
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
Lets see, she opened with 2 straight qualifiers, then proceeded to win 4 of her final 5 matches against unseeded opponents, including an unseeded opponent in the final. Yes easy draw by any objective measure that isn't full of excuse making.

As for comparing Kenin to a demon, I would never do that, demons are far more likeable and charismatic. Probably have more fans than Kenin too. :-D
So using this logic all the top players who lost to Ivanisevic in W01 are chumps because he was unseeded?

You do realize that seeding is not an EXACT science?

Humans play tennis, not numbers.
 
So using this logic all the top players who lost to Ivanisevic in W01 are chumps because he was unseeded?

You do realize that seeding is not an EXACT science?

Humans play tennis, not numbers.

Well Muguruza played like an unseeded tennis player in the final, thus it fits in this case. Of course she didn't play like an unseeded player all tournament, only in the final, but that only benefitted Kenin hugely. For instance if Muguruza had played the exact same way in the semis vs Halep as she did in the final vs Kenin what now happens? Obviously Halep now wins her semi final 6-2, 6-0 and goes on to destroy Kenin in the final. So Muguruza playing like an unseeded player for the final itself, but much better than an unseeded player for some other matches, particularly the semis, only benefitted Kenin that much, so you really have no point.
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
Gosh, Kenin is taking a battering in some posts. Personally, I'm glad she won because she may build on this success. Muguruza rocks up rarely to play a good tournament- in fairness, she normally capitalises on reaching a major final. But she's so in and out that there is a chance Kenin might be more consistent and challenge for titles on a regular basis.
 
Gosh, Kenin is taking a battering in some posts. Personally, I'm glad she won because she may build on this success. Muguruza rocks up rarely to play a good tournament- in fairness, she normally capitalises on reaching a major final. But she's so in and out that there is a chance Kenin might be more consistent and challenge for titles on a regular basis.

The WTA has truly hit a new all time low if a player like Kenin is regularly in contention for majors. They will be giving away tickets to fans for attendance at that point, as nobody will be watching womens tennis anymore, especialy once Serena retires.
 
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