Why doesn't Thiem have a more extreme backhand grip?

zill

Professional
#1
The great topspin one handed backhands have their knuckles on top like Gasquet, Henin, Guga.

Thiem however has a more conservative topspin backhand grip. His knuckle is not quite on top but on the side a little. This is the grip used by Federer, Haas etc who have slightly weaker topspin backhands.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Dominic_Thiem_(14523555506).jpg

https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3b95677ae0502012cd1f99cdd5e2d8e3-c&imgrefurl=http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/dominic-thiem-grips.618705/&docid=4cS6OtRQjnMA3M&tbnid=zuFZRL5Iwwrr5M:&vet=10ahUKEwinp9DCzefcAhWMybwKHa8tBsYQMwhMKAowCg..i&w=600&h=400&bih=759&biw=1536&q=thiem backhand&ved=0ahUKEwinp9DCzefcAhWMybwKHa8tBsYQMwhMKAowCg&iact=mrc&uact=8

Wouldn't it be better if he had his knuckles on top which would result in a more closed racquet face hence get better spin?


Here is what I mean by knuckles on top btw

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&...aw1nZt51zLK6F4hcodL5tnqe&ust=1534166630129837
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
#4
Thiem however has a more conservative topspin backhand grip. His knuckle is not quite on top but on the side a little. This is the grip used by Federer, Haas etc who have slightly weaker topspin backhands.
Edberg's grip was even more conservative (close to continental).

Would you call his topspin backhand "weak" ?
 
#7
The stanimal arguably has the best 1hbh ever. He uses eastern too. Imo much better bh than guga and gasquet, because he can hit through it so much more. Other wise it gets too spinny.
 

IowaGuy

Hall of Fame
#8
The stanimal arguably has the best 1hbh ever. He uses eastern too. Imo much better bh than guga and gasquet, because he can hit through it so much more. Other wise it gets too spinny.
I wouldn't call Guga's BH too spinny, he could definitely hit through the court with it (remember, his best surface was clay!).

This video has a couple nice slo-mo's of Guga's BH. The second one he really hits through with (IMHO) sweet BH technique. His big BH winners often look effortless!

 
#9
The stanimal arguably has the best 1hbh ever. He uses eastern too. Imo much better bh than guga and gasquet, because he can hit through it so much more. Other wise it gets too spinny.
I'm not sure I can call his the best overall, but it is easily the best offensive and most aggressive 1hbh ever. The problem is it is not very effective on grass because it's a bigger swing and takes better timing than most others. On clay he can sit way back and have plenty of time to swing big and adjust to awkward bounces, and on hard courts the bounces are predictable enough, but on clay it's faster and less predictable, so he struggles. If I was playing on grass (assuming I could choose any player's 1hbh), I would not want Stan's backhand, but being an offensive player, I would take it on hard and clay courts.
 

crazyups

Professional
#10
Being the 7th best player on the planet, it would be unwise for Thiem to change his backhand grip. Especially when he is pretty good at obliterating the ball on his backhand.
 
#11
Being the 7th best player on the planet, it would be unwise for Thiem to change his backhand grip. Especially when he is pretty good at obliterating the ball on his backhand.
I am old hack rec player and probably shouldn't offer Dom any advice. But, I will anyhow. Dom's grip is fine. Only things he needs to work on are shorten the back swings a wee bit, staying closer to the baseline and learning to volley. He really hacked a few volleys in the Nadal match.
 
#12
Grip is definitely a personal preference and subjective. I hit all my backhands with a grip closer to conti. When I try the extreme grip described I inevitably top the ball and dump it in the net. Better to hit a “weaker” ball than none at all.
 

Dragy

Professional
#13
Grip is definitely a personal preference and subjective. I hit all my backhands with a grip closer to conti. When I try the extreme grip described I inevitably top the ball and dump it in the net. Better to hit a “weaker” ball than none at all.
Obviously requires transition period and commitment. Did move from conti to EBH for topspin drive BH myself. Yes felt weird initially, but I never expected to just switch mid-match and be ok right away.
 
#14
Sometimes it's the angle of the hand across the top of the racquet that tells the story. Take Justine Henin and and Nicholas Almagro, they have all knuckles on top and straight Guys like Sampras, on the other hand are on an angle so some of the knuckles are on top but 2nd and third finger knuckles are getting further to the front.
 
#15
Obviously requires transition period and commitment. Did move from conti to EBH for topspin drive BH myself. Yes felt weird initially, but I never expected to just switch mid-match and be ok right away.
That’s quite impressive actually. Oddly I find myself using continental more and more because it’s so adaptable and saves me the trouble of switching grips. I’ll still occasionally use a more eastern grip on the bh but I just find I can be more consistent with the conti grip. I’ve even started hitting some forehands with it. Pretty soon I’ll be like a really bad version of Jonny Mac!
 
#16
The great topspin one handed backhands have their knuckles on top like Gasquet, Henin, Guga.

Thiem however has a more conservative topspin backhand grip. His knuckle is not quite on top but on the side a little. This is the grip used by Federer, Haas etc who have slightly weaker topspin backhands.
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his racket path...
 
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