Why don't more (any?) players...

[RaulRamirez]

...use a two-handed backhand for return of serve, and then switch to a one-hander during rallies?

This idea grew out of another thread, and it may not make great sense to you, but I'm throwing it out there.
Assuming a player - whether recreational or pro - can hit both a one-hander and a two-hander effectively - but prefers to rally with a OHBH, would it have any merit to use a two-hander for (only) the ROS (as most see that as an advantage) and then rally with a OHBH?

Statistically...as you don't see it (or do you?), it may not make sense, but how hard would this be to incorporate, if the two-hander is only used for the return?
I would try it among the hackers I play with, but I simply can't hit a good two-hander.

 

[kevin qmto]

Stevie Johnson did exactly that. But only because he slices 99% of backhands during rallies.

 

[RaulRamirez]

Stevie Johnson did exactly that. But only because he slices 99% of backhands during rallies.

I didn't recall that.
While he won't be remembered as an all-timer, he still had a very good career.
I guess it worked for his game.

 

[Biotic]

Tsonga used to employ a one hander when going for dtl bh passing shots. It was classic clownery.

 

[socallefty]

I presume you are talking about topspin drives using both 1H and 2Hs? Many players have a 2HBH drive and 1HBH slice which seems to be the modern way of playing on the ATP tour.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Tsonga used to employ a one hander when going for dtl bh passing shots. It was classic clownery.

It really was comical, and he rarely made it.

 

[RaulRamirez]

I presume you are talking about topspin drives using both 1H and 2Hs? Many players have a 2HBH drive and 1HBH slice which seems to be the modern way of playing on the ATP tour.

Right, but more specifically talking about using a 2HBH just for the ROS.

 

[junior74]

Real Men (1hbh players) know 2hbh is for girls. Like Meat Loaf, we would do anything… but not THAT!

In seriousness; footwork, timing and contact point are different and I think it’s one or the other.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Real Men (1hbh players) know 2hbh is for girls. Like Meat Loaf, we would do anything… but not THAT!

In seriousness; footwork, timing and contact point are different and I think it’s one or the other.

Problem is repetition and feel. One could throw the other off, and one might not be as instinctive and as natural which leads to mistakes.

 

[ghostofMecir]

...use a two-handed backhand for return of serve, and then switch to a one-hander during rallies?

This idea grew out of another thread, and it may not make great sense to you, but I'm throwing it out there.
Assuming a player - whether recreational or pro - can hit both a one-hander and a two-hander effectively - but prefers to rally with a OHBH, would it have any merit to use a two-hander for (only) the ROS (as most see that as an advantage) and then rally with a OHBH?

Statistically...as you don't see it (or do you?), it may not make sense, but how hard would this be to incorporate, if the two-hander is only used for the return?
I would try it among the hackers I play with, but I simply can't hit a good two-hander.

The only type of person who would say something like this is one who has never held a racket in his life. You post a lot here so I’m assuming sometime or another you’ve had a racket in your life, which makes this type of comment even more starnge.

In any case, anybody who is teaching anyone to play with a one-handed backhand, knowing the extreme liability that it is on return should never coach/train/develop anyone. It’s a sad fact of the game that the most beautiful shot that there is a complete liability, especially on return..

 

[Lleytonstation]

The only type of person who would say something like this is one who has never held a racket in his life. You post a lot here so I’m assuming sometime or another you’ve had a racket in your life, which makes this type of comment even more starnge.

In any case, anybody who is teaching anyone to play with a one-handed backhand, knowing the extreme liability that it is on return should never coach/train/develop anyone. It’s a sad fact of the game that the most beautiful shot that there is a complete liability, especially on return..

As someone who played very little tennis I do think about it from time to time. But clearly there is a reason. At the highest levels you need complete focus and training on these skills.

It is rare to see switch hitters who are elite or golfers who can hit opposite side at pro level.

But yeah, I think even fed said his kids would have a two hander. One hand backhand is like a classic car, beautiful but not reliable for the gritty work.

 

[thrust]

...use a two-handed backhand for return of serve, and then switch to a one-hander during rallies?

This idea grew out of another thread, and it may not make great sense to you, but I'm throwing it out there.
Assuming a player - whether recreational or pro - can hit both a one-hander and a two-hander effectively - but prefers to rally with a OHBH, would it have any merit to use a two-hander for (only) the ROS (as most see that as an advantage) and then rally with a OHBH?

Statistically...as you don't see it (or do you?), it may not make sense, but how hard would this be to incorporate, if the two-hander is only used for the return?
I would try it among the hackers I play with, but I simply can't hit a good two-hander.

Makes sense to me, especially having to stretch wide to return any shot.

 

[RaulRamirez]

The only type of person who would say something like this is one who has never held a racket in his life. You post a lot here so I’m assuming sometime or another you’ve had a racket in your life, which makes this type of comment even more starnge.

In any case, anybody who is teaching anyone to play with a one-handed backhand, knowing the extreme liability that it is on return should never coach/train/develop anyone. It’s a sad fact of the game that the most beautiful shot that there is a complete liability, especially on return..

Did you even read what I wrote? It's almost the opposite of what you think you replied to. But keep the insults flowing.

 

[Rosstour]

...use a two-handed backhand for return of serve, and then switch to a one-hander during rallies?

This idea grew out of another thread, and it may not make great sense to you, but I'm throwing it out there.
Assuming a player - whether recreational or pro - can hit both a one-hander and a two-hander effectively - but prefers to rally with a OHBH, would it have any merit to use a two-hander for (only) the ROS (as most see that as an advantage) and then rally with a OHBH?

Statistically...as you don't see it (or do you?), it may not make sense, but how hard would this be to incorporate, if the two-hander is only used for the return?
I would try it among the hackers I play with, but I simply can't hit a good two-hander.

I've been a proponent of the 3BH solution for a while

The 2H's ace in the hole isn't that it's more stable on returns, it's that gripping the racquet with 2H on returns allows you instant ability to change grips for either wing. 1HBH players chip a lot of FH serve returns (Wawa) and 2H players don't have to do that.

But, there a lot of shots that can only be hit with one hand. And a player who can hit those shots will be at an advantage, all other things being equal

 

[socallefty]

You saw my posting already on the Federer interview thread. The only instance I can see it happening at the pro level is if someone switched from a 2HBH to a 1HBH as a kid which I don’t think will happen anymore with coached juniors.

I started tennis as a kid with a 2HBH, but switched to a 1HBH within a couple of years because it was in the 70s and we sliced a lot of BHs in those days and went to net a lot. But when I get jammed on returns by a hard body serve, I sometimes have reacted with a 2HBH block return throughout my life.

If it is a slower body serve I can hit well in front of me, I will hit a 1HBH slice, but if I can’t get out of the way the 2HBH block is easier for me. I’ll hit a 1HBH drive return if I have enough spacing laterally and vertically to hit the ball well in front and to my right.

 

[ghostofMecir]

Did you even read what I wrote? It's almost the opposite of what you think you replied to. But keep the insults flowing.

It isnt. If you had ever held a racket in your life, the reason is evident.

 

[RaulRamirez]

It isnt. If you had ever held a racket in your life, the reason is evident.

Well it was the opposite, but I won't waste more effort on someone of your low caliber.