Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Claudius, Aug 6, 2009.
I'd imagine hard hitters like them would use poly, but why don't they?
What strings do they use?
They both use Wilson Natural Gut, Venus @68 and Serena @66 <even if she tried out 3 frames at RG at a strangely low 57/55>
Why do any of us use the strings we use? Because that's what works for us.
I have to agree. With their games you'd think at least a hybrid poly would be ideal. It's possible that they tried poly at one time and developed arm problems. Some people's arms just can't tolerate poly. A couple years ago Serena had the wrist problem at Wimbledon. Maybe she just doesn't want to risk it.
Explosive serving power is such a big part of their games. They don't seem to mind having stats sheets with 40winner/40UEs, so longs as they scare the turd out of their opponents with pace. Don't always like it much myself, but it works for them, especially at Wimbly.
I have a feeling they have found what works for them and I doubt anyone on here will be hired as a consultant.
Well pro dont really use strings for durability, they change strings per session of hitting. unlike us club players we change strings till it breaks.
But pros change whenever they want. Well you can too! if you have the Money and Manpower/equipment.
Thats old school to go with the full gut stringjob. You dont see that very often anymore.
You are so right.
Maybe Poly strings hurt their arms?
That's my guess to, not every player can handle the same kind of strings.
Sampras tried poly strings too and got wrist tendonitis after a few weeks.
Because they don't visit the string section on here and conform to the belief that they need to use poly strings strung at 70 pounds to contain their immense power.
According to many on this board it;s not the strings and Sampras should have "checked his technique".
LMAO yeah Sampras had terrible service technique looked like a damn club player!!!
You'll see and read it all here. Strings could NEVER cause tennis elbow it's all your technique.
I would not say never, but what caused tennis elbow in the days when all that was available was natural gut and maybe nylon? Technique must have played a significant role. I think the causes of tennis elbow are more complicated than saying it is due to the strings and not technique. Also, Sampras is getting older. His body will break down just like the rest of us.
The most common scenario on this board is the same as mine so I will give you mine. I NEVER once had an arm problem from 1986-1998. Then in 1999 I decided that my strings were popping too fast. I was using a Prince Thunderbolt Longbody with prince synthetic gut. I didn't know much about strings but I had heard Prince Endurance strings were durable. So I had three frames strung up with Endurance at my usual 57 lbs. I played once or twice and my arm was on absolute fire. The strings broke alright because I cut them the next day and went back to synthetic gut. I was out of action for 6 weeks and then never had a problem again.
I ain't a pro so my technique ain't perfect but it didn't cause my arm pain. Those strings did and the smartest thing I did was never play another minute with them.
Bad technique did not cause Sampras pain when he tried poly. I think we can agree on that. It's not always equipment but it seems from the situations here it almost always occurs when people try a) stiff strings or b) stiff lighter frames or c) a combo of both.
I do not know why Sampras had wrist pain and neither do you.
I still want to know what could have caused elbow, wrist, etc. pain in players in the days prior to poly strings and stiff racquets. Why is it that whatever caused it back then would not still cause it now?
I know what caused my pain back then (1999).
You're right he had bad technique
How very adult of you to respond this way (I am assuming you are an adult by age).
I am not saying it is technique or equipment. I am saying I do not know what caused it. You are saying it must be equipment. Nobody can be certain. Pros get injured all the time. Sometimes it is because they tweak something with their movement. Sampras is not perfect.
Those are fair points. Most of the posts I have seen are people who all of a sudden got tennis elbow after switching equipment (such as myself).
John Newcomb had tennis elbow in the 1970's. So did several other pros back then. In my early days players got TE & wasn't a switch to some ultralight super stiff frame or very stiff string, just plain old over use.
I had people get over TE by changing grip size & tension, both up and down, so you never know what will work for a particular player.
To conclude back on the topic, poly feels different, the Williams sisters must feel they don't need it.
If I hit the number of balls they do a week, I'd go full gut, too.
I've always wanted to try an all gut string job, perhaps I'll buy a pack.
As I said, it was because he tried poly string for a few weeks in 1997.
In this interview he mentions that he tried new strings, but had to switch back to his old ones after he got tendonitis: http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=12987
No, it's because he had bad technique LOL
Honestly, I think the reason was the fact that Sampras used such a heavy racquet. In combination with dead strings that puts a lot of stress on the wrist.
I think it's just a preference. I use full gut in a dense string pattern like the williamses. I gotta say, most of the pros that use poly (in a hybrid of full stringbed) are using open string patterns. (Federer, nadal, Roddick, Murray) Dense string patterns have less power, so it's better to use soft strings. (This is totally my opinion, don't want to step on anyones toes)
had the same thing happen.
i am former division 1 player, playes satelites, was a teaching pro for 10 years.
cannot use poly strings. I have eastern forehand, backhand grips and continental grip on the serve. it is not technique, I had never had problems before using poly strings.
I have gone back to using tecnifibre or vs gut and no arm problems again. I did switch to the dunlop aerogel 200 as well from the slazenger henman rackets and no problem with the new rackets either
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