Why Don't You All Have Parts Cars?

TTMR

Hall of Fame
I never understood why people don't save themselves an enormous sum of money, and buy parts cars for all the cars they own. The price of an undriveable salvage car from the junkyard or auction is practically nothing, and it's so much cheaper than buying new parts or used parts or even picked parts from the junkyard. I own six cars and have a parts car for each, and people react as if I'm nuts. Even when I'm lazy or busy and can't be bothered to do the work myself, I just have the parts car towed to the shop along with my roadworthy car (thanks AAA!).

So why don't more people have parts cars?
 
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Slicehand

Guest
Lol because i dont have space and barely needed a new clutch in 20 years for my car, do you also buy wheels and break discs at junkyards?
 
I used to have rusty heap of car out on the front lawn just waiting for the day when I would need a part, but the neighbors complained that it wasn't white-trash enough. So I replaced it with an outhouse. Now whenever I need a ride I just hitchhike.
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
Lol because i dont have space and barely needed a new clutch in 20 years for my car, do you also buy wheels and break discs at junkyards?

I have, yes. Space issue? Ok you have your daily driver and your parts car. It's only two spaces. Just park the good car on the street if you only have one space. Also, so many guys waste their garage by ramming it full of junk and tools, or turning it into a "man cave". The result is that cars are in the driveway which is riskier for your good car and wastes valuable space.
 
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Slicehand

Guest
I was thinking, if i kick my lazy sons ass out of my house i could use that rooms space for a lot of things, including some engines and bumpers, you have just opened my eyes, ok, time for charles to become a man
 

jimmy8

G.O.A.T.
It might cost more in labor cost to extract a buried part than to buy a used part at the salvage yard and maybe even more than a new part. And some parts you should always buy new.

Sometimes you'll use a used part and it fails right away. Then you pay for a new part. Then you pay for the labor twice.

And a salvage car still costs some money. The part you need might have been damaged in an accident.

In the end, you might end up losing money.

Most people drive cars from age 0-4 years old. They don't need anything except oil changes and maybe a few other things like an air filter or some fluid changes.

Most of the rest of people drive cars from age 0-12 years old. They don't need much either. And most of what they need should be bought new.

The people who keep their cars really long might need used parts, but by the time they need it, the salvage car part will be so old that it's no longer able to be used.

I don't think buying a parts car would be economical for most people.
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
The people who keep their cars really long might need used parts, but by the time they need it, the salvage car part will be so old that it's no longer able to be used.
Not necessarily. Many parts don't deteriorate very rapidly if not used (such as being in a junkyard). Sure, tires, batteries and interior upholstery degrade from being idle and exposed, body panels as well depending on the car and geographic location, and possibly electronics depending on rodent penetration. But many internal parts, such as engine and transmission components barely degrade over years if not used.
 

jimmy8

G.O.A.T.
Not necessarily. Many parts don't deteriorate very rapidly if not used (such as being in a junkyard). Sure, tires, batteries and interior upholstery degrade from being idle and exposed, body panels as well depending on the car and geographic location, and possibly electronics depending on rodent penetration. But many internal parts, such as engine and transmission components barely degrade over years if not used.
Yeah, there are parts you can use, but there's still some risk in using a part that is that old. I guess it's good for people who do it all themselves, but most people don't have the mechanic skills and/or the tools, the risk would be too high for them.
 

Azure

G.O.A.T.
Thats why I prefer a horse cart. I got the horse from a farmer, stole one wheel from my neighbor (he still doesn’t know it) and another wheel is from my previous cart. Its amazing. All parts put together and saves me a ton of money. I just let the horse graze on my neighbor’s lawn which is still not all gravel and I also let a poor lad who was kicked out by his dad sleep in it every night. Also i am a sight to behold when I take my horse out shopping every Sunday.
 

tennis3

Hall of Fame
Thats why I prefer a horse cart. I got the horse from a farmer, stole one wheel from my neighbor (he still doesn’t know it) and another wheel is from my previous cart. Its amazing. All parts put together and saves me a ton of money. I just let the horse graze on my neighbor’s lawn which is still not all gravel and I also let a poor lad who was kicked out by his dad sleep in it every night. Also i am a sight to behold when I take my horse out shopping every Sunday.
I grew up with an Amish community not 2 miles away. They’re still there.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
I think I posted here once about a mechanical engineer I read about who in the 1970s thought cars were going to get worse and worse mostly in performance, as pollution controls were being added at the time and power was suffering (the standard 1975 Corvette had 165 horsepower). So he got a lot of money together and bought 14 Mercury Cougars (a fancier version of the Mustang), figuring these would last him the rest of his life, particularly as he could cannibalize the "used up" cars for parts.
 

TTMR

Hall of Fame
I think I posted here once about a mechanical engineer I read about who in the 1970s thought cars were going to get worse and worse mostly in performance, as pollution controls were being added at the time and power was suffering (the standard 1975 Corvette had 165 horsepower). So he got a lot of money together and bought 14 Mercury Cougars (a fancier version of the Mustang), figuring these would last him the rest of his life, particularly as he could cannibalize the "used up" cars for parts.

His plan probably worked, depending on how long he lived. Might still be working if he lived and drove in the southwest.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
I never understood why people don't save themselves an enormous sum of money, and buy parts cars for all the cars they own. The price of an undriveable salvage car from the junkyard or auction is practically nothing, and it's so much cheaper than buying new parts or used parts or even picked parts from the junkyard. I own six cars and have a parts car for each, and people react as if I'm nuts. Even when I'm lazy or busy and can't be bothered to do the work myself, I just have the parts car towed to the shop along with my roadworthy car (thanks AAA!).

So why don't more people have parts cars?

Streets, driveways, parking lots, and garages are full of cars with every part you might need. Why would you waste money buying your own parts cars when car parts are readily available for free?

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5 Most Stolen Car Parts​

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Published onMay 10, 2021

Wherever you find cars, you’ll find people keen to steal them. It’s just a fact of modern life. But since stealing a whole car can be risky, thieves will often focus on removing specific car parts or accessories. This can be easier to accomplish and actually, more profitable. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), a skilled thief can strip a car of its major parts in half an hour, then turn around and sell the individual items for two-to-four times the vehicle’s value.
Read on to discover which 5 items in or on your vehicle are most at risk and more importantly, how you can keep them where they belong.

Catalytic Converters

A catalytic converter, or Cat, converts the toxic gases and pollutants expelled from your car’s engine through the exhaust into cleaner material. But that’s not the reason Cats get stolen so often. This environmentally friendly part is popular with the bad guys because they’re easy to steal and the materials they’re made with – platinum, palladium, and rhodium -- are currently more valuable than gold.
Protect It: As many U.S. car owners have learned the hard way, it can be difficult to keep the catalytic converter safe. A brazen thief can slide under your car with a hacksaw and be away with the Cat in minutes. Experts suggest welding a metal plate over the catalytic converter or etching your VIN onto it to make it easier to identify. Other safety measures: when you h veto park on the street, pull close to another vehicle or next to a wall. This makes it harder for anyone to access the underbelly of your car.

Air Bags

According to the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB), it’s estimated that 50,000 airbags valued at $50 million are stolen every year. This life-saving car part needs to be replaced once it has been deployed in a collision or been stolen. Criminals sell them to unscrupulous suppliers who go on to install them in the vehicles of unsuspecting owners.
Protect them: Steering wheel locks will prevent your airbags and your car from being stolen. And when it’s time to buy replacement airbags, make sure you only buy from the manufacturer, a certified recycler, or a dealer. Check that the airbag package is sealed so you know it wasn’t taken from another car illegally. If there’s no market for stolen airbags, thieves will stop stealing them!

In-Car Systems

Car stereos no longer have the appeal they once held to thieves, as they don’t carry the street value they once did. Today’s cars tempt thieves with much more sophisticated and desirable options. Aftermarket DVD players and navigation systems can be resold for thousands of dollars.
Protect them: Some models come with a removable face that you can hide in the glovebox. For those units without a removable face, your best bet is to park your vehicle with all its bounty in a garage — if possible. If you have to park on the street, choose a well-lit area and cover items up.

Tires and Wheels

Unlike a GPS or sound system, tires and wheels are not optional. (That is, if you want your ride to actually move.) Long a favorite with car thieves, tires and rims are easy to remove with only a few tools and some cinderblocks. And they’re easy to re-sell.
Protect them: For a visible deterrent, you can buy a circular wheel lock that will prevent the wheels from being removed. But the lock also prevents the car from being driven, so that’s not always a practical solution. Locking your lug nuts will also help keep your wheels where they belong. And keeping your car tucked up at night in a garage

Batteries

Your car battery is the only thing under the hood that can be taken easily and is worth something at the scrap yard. One battery is not worth much, but thieves will usually target multiple cars in the area at one time.
Protect it: You can buy after-market hood locks for your car to make it hard for thieves to get access. Also, park in busy, well-lit areas where anyone messing with the hood of your car would arouse suspicion.
https://www.wawanesa.com/us/blog/5-most-stolen-car-parts

‘Like a sitting duck’: The catalytic converter theft spree is hitting old Toyota Priuses​

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Nam Trinh knew something was wrong one morning in October when she turned on her 2008 Toyota Prius and heard a throaty roar, like a plane taking off.

Trinh had her wedge-shaped car repaired. But she heard the telltale growl again in January while she was in Sacramento. And again in February, in the parking garage of a Las Vegas casino. And again in March, at home in Los Angeles.

“By the fourth time, I was numb,” said Trinh, who works for a hospitality technology company and lives in Eagle Rock. “I had no emotions left. I was like, ‘Well, this is just how life is now. I guess my catalytic converter is going to be stolen every month.’”

Fifteen years ago, the Toyota Prius was so popular in California that buyers faced waits of up to seven months to purchase one. Now the aging hybrid is in demand again for an entirely different reason.

The second-generation Prius, sold from 2004 to 2009, has become a prime target for catalytic converter theft in California. The car’s shoebox-sized anti-pollution device contains trace amounts of precious metals and can fetch several hundred dollars from scrap yards and recyclers.

Converter thefts have surged across the U.S. in the last two years. One analysis of repairs at 60,000 auto shops found that Ford F-150 trucks and Honda Accords were the most frequent theft targets nationally, while the Prius was 10th.

But in the West, the analysis found, the Prius took the No. 1 spot.

Catalytic converters in hybrids have a higher concentration of precious metals compared to cars that run solely on gas. The 2007 Prius’ converter has a resale value of more than $1,000, while a converter in the 2007 F-150 fetches about $150. Newer Priuses are targets for thieves too, but they use a different converter that sells for less.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-07/catalytic-converter-theft-toyota-prius-old
 

graycrait

Legend
An old friend used to have 3 3 dr Geo Metros. 1 ran and two were parts cars under an old surplus Army camo net in the woods behind the house. The one he drove he loaded with board wood he would mill off his own land and deliver it, kiln dried to folks who wanted it. One night I was visiting his place up in Kentucky. While we were having a drink by the campfire behind the house he started hauling firearms out and announced, "We'll have 10 minutes of sustained gunfire into the fire." I lamely asked, "Won't that bother the neighbors"? He replied, "It won't bother me, why would it bother them?" It takes a lot of ammo for 3 guys to continuously fire for 10 minutes.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
An old friend used to have 3 3 dr Geo Metros. 1 ran and two were parts cars under an old surplus Army camo net in the woods behind the house. The one he drove he loaded with board wood he would mill off his own land and deliver it, kiln dried to folks who wanted it. One night I was visiting his place up in Kentucky. While we were having a drink by the campfire behind the house he started hauling firearms out and announced, "We'll have 10 minutes of sustained gunfire into the fire." I lamely asked, "Won't that bother the neighbors"? He replied, "It won't bother me, why would it bother them?" It takes a lot of ammo for 3 guys to continuously fire for 10 minutes.

There was this kid in my high school class. He wasn't the brightest bulb and and shortly after high school he thought up this plan to rent a U-Haul and steal some cattle from this farm. So he waited until it was pitch black out and he drove down this dirt road with lights off to the farm and he loaded up a couple cows in the U-Haul but you know cows are pretty heavy and U-Hauls while made to haul things aren't made to haul things that heavy so the suspension collapsed with the weight and the cops came and he was arrested and spent time in jail for cattle rustling.

I am sure that was great on his resume. Former cattle rustler.
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Well my daily driver has been so reliable ( 17 years old) that all I have had to do is a $190 device every 10, 000km.
What I may need however would be to go to the wreckers and pick up some new seats to keep the car looking new as the current one is starting to wear a little.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
If I get a rare classic car then a spare car could make sense but being rare would mean that even a spare would be hard to find. I do love old classic cars that are affordable however I wouldn’t mind an Opel GT, Datsun 240z - 280zx again.
 

Midaso240

Legend
Because it's not worth it for most people. It may not be costing you as much money, but it's costing time. Depends what you value more. Guess I can see the argument if tinkering around with cars is your passion
 
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